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[RabidMongoose]

I feel police should have stronger powers on looters ie shoot on sight,I'm tired of the so called soft approach policing,you know they do this(shoot) in other countries.

Yeah, they do it in countries like Libya. You do that, then there will be foreign intervention. I would fully support the US parking an aircraft carrier battle group or two right off the UK coast. We will not tolerate the spilling of innocent blood.

The solution is to open up a dialogue with the protesters and amend social policy.

 

[MotF Bane]

I agree with you; it's more than just class struggle. It's a popular uprising against the very social order of British government mandated society.

This may very well take the entire UK government down and usher in a new era of social equality in the UK.

No, it's not, and you either know that and are still trolling your merry sockpuppety way along, or you are totally disconnected from reality, and still trolling your merry sockpuppety way along.

It's a bunch of idiots who want to get away with violent activity and steal nice things. That's all it is. Pretending it is anything more is ludicrous.

And no, it won't take down the entire government. LOL.

 

[MotF Bane]

I feel police should have stronger powers on looters ie shoot on sight,I'm tired of the so called soft approach policing,you know they do this(shoot) in other countries.

It would certainly have more prolonged benefits, but I'm not so sure that approach is a good one. Long jail terms, significant amounts of community service, et cetera are less apt to violate their rights.

 

[MotF Bane]

How about right now?

 

[RabidMongoose]

No, it's not, and you either know that and are still trolling your merry sockpuppety way along, or you are totally disconnected from reality, and still trolling your merry sockpuppety way along.

It's a bunch of idiots who want to get away with violent activity and steal nice things. That's all it is. Pretending it is anything more is ludicrous.

And no, it won't take down the entire government. LOL.

You say this because you are not part of the social struggle.

And, it doesn't need to actually topple down the government, it just needs to result in the loss of support of the current politicians in power and the ushering in of new politicians more sympathetic for this social struggle.

This is just like in Libya, power to the people, that's how I feel.

 

[MotF Bane]

Yeah, they do it in countries like Libya. You do that, then there will be foreign intervention. I would fully support the US parking an aircraft carrier battle group or two right off the UK coast. We will not tolerate the spilling of innocent blood.

The solution is to open up a dialogue with the protesters and amend social policy.

There's no need to put carriers off the British coast, besides, they'd welcome us into the harbors and our sailors would go get drunk and screw some big-boobed British girls with sexy accents. And before somebody sticks in a crack about ugly British women or bad teeth, do consider checking Page 3. It's enlightening. :awe:

The solution is to arrest every last one of these criminals, and try them to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[MotF Bane]

You say this because you are not part of the social struggle.

And, it doesn't need to actually topple down the government, it just needs to result in the loss of support of the current politicians in power and the ushering in of new politicians more sympathetic for this social struggle.

This is just like in Libya, power to the people, that's how I feel.

There is no social struggle in Britain. It is a RIOT. People burn, smash, and steal things. That's what happens in a riot.

You are cheapening the efforts of the Libyans. Despicable.

 

[CanOWorms]

When was the last time someone was executed and their family billed for the bullet in Britain? When was the last time a "lightning strike" derailed two trains in Britain, and the evidence promptly buried? When was the last time Britain made a mockery of the Olympics?

I doubt that you'll find the exact same event happening. That's a ridiculous thing.

On the other hand, when was the last time China had elections?

They've had several elections. When was the last time the UK had an election for their head of state?

You should be condemning China by your own logic, and to propose that Britain does not have more rights and opportunities is blatant denial of reality.

The UK and China will have varying levels of rights and opportunities depending on the issue.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Not saying there is no racism in the UK but how does that post suggest that there is?

There's a lot of white people rioting as well, just because the people he overheard were black doesn't make it a racial thing.

according to the video i see on msnbc, the majority of those causing violence and looting are of a specific... complexion.
obviously i'm not there and i'm not familiar with anything UK so this is all i have to go by.

 

[Doppel]

I don't love China. However, I laugh at your characterization of the UK having more rights and opportunities.

That's because you are retarded, though.

I agree with you; it's more than just class struggle. It's a popular uprising against the very social order of British government mandated society.

This may very well take the entire UK government down and usher in a new era of social equality in the UK.

You are also retarded.

 

[Mem]

It would certainly have more prolonged benefits, but I'm not so sure that approach is a good one. Long jail terms, significant amounts of community service, et cetera are less apt to violate their rights.

I think they should be at least tougher on the looters,remember they are not protesters like some other members here think.

 

[MotF Bane]

Dinner is ready. I do hope the sockpuppets are here in a little while. :awe:

 

[RabidMongoose]

There's no need to put carriers off the British coast, besides, they'd welcome us into the harbors and our sailors would go get drunk and screw some big-boobed British girls with sexy accents. And before somebody sticks in a crack about ugly British women or bad teeth, do consider checking Page 3. It's enlightening. :awe:

The solution is to arrest every last one of these criminals, and try them to the fullest extent of the law.

I disagree. If anyone should be arrested, it's the politicians and royal family.

I hope that the social unrest continues until real change happens.

 

[RabidMongoose]

There is no social struggle in Britain. It is a RIOT. People burn, smash, and steal things. That's what happens in a riot.

You are cheapening the efforts of the Libyans. Despicable.

You sound similar to Gaddafi.

 

[Infohawk]

When was the last time someone was executed and their family billed for the bullet in Britain? When was the last time a "lightning strike" derailed two trains in Britain, and the evidence promptly buried? When was the last time Britain made a mockery of the Olympics? ...

It's so infuriating reading your posts in this thread, because you make absolute sense with undeniable logic, and yet I know that Worms and Mongoose will come back with some continued delusion bout how the UK has groups of authoritarian police officers roaming the streets and surprising the rights and will of the people far more than china... It's so infuriating.

In case anyone isn't totally up to speed on COW/RabidSockPuppet they're virulent trolls. In the past they've argued that London should be bombed for the UK's response to the Gulf Oil Spill and that Churchill is worse than Hitler.

It's too bad because this is a serious topic that doesn't need to be drowned out by conspiracy theories. So the only thing you can do about them is put them on ignore and hope other people don't get suckered but they always do. Alas, they are Officially-Sanctioned AnandTech Trolls. Not even Anarchist420 gets away with as much as they do.

 

[HAL9000]

In case anyone isn't totally up to speed on COW/RabidSockPuppet they're virulent trolls. In the past they've argued that London should be bombed for the UK's response to the Gulf Oil Spill and that Churchill is worse than Hitler.

It's too bad because this is a serious topic that doesn't need to be drowned out by conspiracy theories. So the only thing you can do about them is put them on ignore and hope other people don't get suckered but they always do. Alas, they are Officially-Sanctioned AnandTech Trolls. Not even Anarchist420 gets away with as much as they do.

Agreed, that's why I posted this:

This is a plea to everyone in the thread, please stop replying to RabidMongoose and CanOfWorms​

This could be a serious thread about a real issue that is directly effecting me and others on the forum. I'm genuinely getting upset by the constant trolling from these two posters and the more we feed their delusions the worse they become. So lets just leave them alone.

Please.

From Mike (HAL)

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It baffles me that, while racism, sexism and homophobia are banned here Xenophobia this blatant is allowed to continue.

 

[ch33kym0use]

Should have guided and made private sector jobs available so that the jobs are taken kindly and do other things to make them happy. I mean, anything nice and proper, but not doing things to riot.

 

[Nebor]

In case anyone isn't totally up to speed on COW/RabidSockPuppet they're virulent trolls.

You don't think they're the same person? What are the odds of two different people with such warped views being such active trolls on this board?

 

[RabidMongoose]

In case anyone isn't totally up to speed on COW/RabidSockPuppet they're virulent trolls. In the past they've argued that London should be bombed for the UK's response to the Gulf Oil Spill and that Churchill is worse than Hitler.

I have never called for London to be bombed in response to the Gulf Oil Spill. I have no idea what you're talking about with that one. However, Churchill was a monster, but many people consider his atrocities fine because he committed them against non-Europeans.

I am in support of this social unrest and, in fact, wish that Americans were not so damn fat because they need to rise up as well. The British peasants are very admirable in this regard.

 

[HAL9000]

You don't think they're the same person? What are the odds of two different people with such warped views being such active trolls on this board?

1 in 14,121

 

[RabidMongoose]

Agreed, that's why I posted this:




It baffles me that, while racism, sexism and homophobia are banned here Xenophobia this blatant is allowed to continue.

Supporting a social movement is not xenophobic. We clearly disagree with regard to the social unrest. That's fine. You're against changing the social order because you benefit from the status quo; just look at my sig for your support of it. However, obviously many people do not benefit from the status quo and they are now making their voices heard. You cannot treat people like crap, forcing them into austerity while the government lavishes money on a racist inbred family, spending billions on events that those forced into austerity will never watch, etc.

You're more right wing, that's fine. We'll have to just agree to disagree.

 

[Infohawk]

You don't think they're the same person?

It's more likely than not that they are. One person with one or more sockpuppets.

 

[CanOWorms]

Olympic host city under scrutiny amid London riots

LONDON (AP) — A few miles from the worst violence to hit the city in 25 years, beach volleyball players dived headlong in the sand, the most summery of Olympic sports on display less than a year before the London Games.

The matches were played under the shadow of the London Eye big wheel, and not far from Buckingham Palace and No. 10 Downing Street. Yet no historic backdrop could block the images of rioting and looting that have swept the city the past three days and left a mark on British sports.

The soccer game between England and the Netherlands at Wembley was the biggest casualty. And as IOC officials arrived to review progress leading to the 2012 Games, they were greeted by a forbidding landscape a short way from where the Olympics will unfold.

Plumes of smoke rose from run-down neighborhoods. Businesses closed early — many of them boarded up — as authorities struggled to contain the country's worst unrest since race riots set London ablaze in the 1980s.

It was hardly the image Britain hoped to present to the world. This was a time when fans should have been reveling in the expectation of a successful Olympics and the start of English soccer season.

Instead, athletes fielded calls from worried relatives watching TV footage of burning buildings and vehicles. Officials tried to downplay the impact of the violence that began Saturday night in the Tottenham area of north London following the fatal shooting of a local man by police.

"My friends and family have been calling," Canadian beach volleyball player Heather Bansley said. "They keep checking in to make sure we're OK. It's not a great thing to be happening to London."

The disorder comes less than two weeks after London celebrated with great fanfare the one-year countdown to the opening of the games on July 27, 2012.

On Monday, the violence spread to Hackney, one the boroughs encompassing the Olympic Park in east London. The unrest took place about four miles from the park, site of the main Olympic Stadium and other key venues.

Prime Minister David Cameron and London Mayor Boris Johnson cut short their vacations to head back to the capital as organizers defended security planning and pressed ahead with preparations for the world's biggest sports festival.

"We have a commitment to deliver a safe and secure games and we will do so," Olympics Minister Hugh Robertson said. "All the evidence shows this trouble is low-level criminality driven by messages on social networks and not some new, emerging security threat."

More than 500 people have been arrested in London and more than 100 charged so far.

With police needed elsewhere, Wembley Stadium was deemed not safe enough to host Wednesday's soccer game. With 70,000 tickets sold for the visit of a Dutch team that reached last year's World Cup final, the Football Association will take a financial hit because of ticket refunds.

Tuesday's game between Ghana and Nigeria in neutral Watford, 20 miles northwest of London, was also called off. The Premier League said it was still talking with police before deciding whether this weekend's season-opening matches at Tottenham, Fulham and Queen's Park Rangers could proceed. Two domestic cup games set for Tuesday also were abandoned.

Tottenham was the scene of the shooting that sparked the initial violence and one of the areas hardest hit by riots. One of the ticket offices at the north London club's stadium was closed because of damage.

With the mayhem spreading outside London, dozens of people attacked shops in Birmingham's main retail district. England's cricketers were warned to stay in the team hotel after dark as they prepared for their match against India on Wednesday. Rival captains Andrew Strauss and Mahendra Singh Dhoni supported the decision to play.

"This is an opportunity for cricket to maybe put a feel-good factor back into the newspapers and show that not everything's bad out there at the moment," Strauss said.

It just doesn't seem that they're fit to be hosting the Olympics. What happens if one of the Olympic sites gets torched? How can people even compete with their safety at risk? These athletes have been training and preparing for years. They shouldn't be expected to deal with the extra stress of hoping that they live to survive the Olympics.

 

[HAL9000]

Supporting a social movement is not xenophobic.

This isn't a social movement.

We clearly disagree with regard to the social unrest.

There is social unrest in almost every country on earth this is not an example of it.

That's fine. You're against changing the social order because you benefit from the status quo;

False, I'm fine with change for the better if change was needed but it's not, you've never been to the UK, you have no idea what you are talking about you are just trolling.

just look at my sig for your support of it.

*looks at sig, see's no problem*

However, obviously many people do not benefit from the status quo and they are now making their voices heard.

They are not, they make no voices, they hide from cameras as they are just committing crimes for the sake of committing crimes.

You cannot treat people like crap,

You treat the English members of this forum like crap every day.

forcing them into austerity

No one is being force into austerity in the UK.

while the government lavishes money on a racist inbred family,

1) Very little money
2) The family are not racist (with one moronic exception)
3) The family are no more inbred than any family that old.

spending billions on events that those forced into austerity will never watch, etc.

1) No one is being forced into austerity
2) The vast majority of people will be watching the Olympics next year in the UK.

You're more right wing, that's fine. We'll have to just agree to disagree.

I voted left wing, I'm more left wing than anything.

 

[HAL9000]

Olympic host city under scrutiny amid London riots



It just doesn't seem that they're fit to be hosting the Olympics. What happens if one of the Olympic sites gets torched? How can people even compete with their safety at risk? These athletes have been training and preparing for years. They shouldn't be expected to deal with the extra stress of hoping that they live to survive the Olympics.

OK so are they dangerous rioters that will torch olympic events or are they heroic underclass revolutionaries?