LOL...found a way to get back at my sh*tty neighbor.

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imported_Baloo

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
they sound like some assholes, but you can't control over who parks in front of your house...

actually yes I can...the city has "right of way" meaning that if a plow comes through you cannot and should not have anything there.

It does not mean it is "public "property.

If someone parks there without my permission, I can call the police and have them towed within 4 hours...if I post a sign that says no parking I can have it towed right away at no cost to me.....trust me I have been over this with the City director, city engineering and just about every policeman on the force (small town)......like I said there is more to the story and it got ugly...but I won...she is on probation for 2 years criminal trespassing .

No, You can't. It is public property. You don't have the right of way, the city does. You've been over this, but have not been able to do anything. Actions speak louder than words.


Another dolt he thinks he owns everything in view of his front porch. Unfortunately, what you do not realize, and I am sure has already been pointed out, but I will say it again any way. You are the bad neighbor.
 

SunnyD

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Alright, as I said - if it truly is YOUR property, just call your favorite tow company and have them take it away. Tow companies LOVE to pick up cars and charge a good $150 to let people have them back. Biggest scam... err... money making business ever!

Honestly, it sounds to me like you're just an anal-retentive asshole neighbor that's about as prejudiced as they come. You sound like one of those people that should be on the "Having Neighborly Squabbles" on Dr. Phil, Montel or Springer...

Here's a few questions for you...

- Where are they parking? On the street? Or on your lawn?
- If on the street, is there a curb there?
- Is there a sidewalk there?
- If there is a sidewalk (that doesn't line the road/curb proper", how much "grass" is between the road and sidewalk?
- Are they parking on the piece of grass between the road/curb and the sidewalk (if there is one)? Or are they parking on the road?
- Is the road a private drive? Is it labeled as such?
- Are there signs posted anywhere that say no public parking for X hours or between X and Y or at all?

Basically, unless there's something I'm missing, you're full of it. If there's a county/town/city/village/etc ROAD going through the area, YOU DON'T OWN IT. Now if they're parking on the piece of land next to the road, you have recourse, as technically that is yours. Usually that piece of land (6 feet or whatever) between the road and the sidewalk is part of the eminent domain area - basically you pay the taxes on it, it's yours, but the city can freely do whatever they want (like widen the road) with it. But if they're parking on the road itself, you can't do anything unless they're blocking your driveway. Before I call shens, answer the above questions. Otherwise shut it and take your squabble to Dr. Phil.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the 4 hour thing is probably a town ordinance for on-street parking. I'm betting if your neighbors wanted to, THEY could call and have YOU towed for parking in front of your own house. They're probably just too stupid to realize it.
 

alkemyst

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so they are white trash because they have a dog they don't clean up after on their property, and you are not with a flock of crapping birds all over yours?

You should call Springer about this right away!
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
but I actually own the property up to the edge of the street

So, you don't own the street.

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET
Okay, then who owns the street? It's not a public street, but the city plows it and maintains it?! I've never heard of such a thing. I've heard of private streets before - in planned subdivisions. But generally (at least I thought), the subdivision is responsible for plowing.

Im having some trouble believing you can't get this. Its very common. The city controls an easement 6 feet into the property line, he can't build there, but its still his property. In snow areas (at least here in Big Bear) you can't park in the street OR that easement area (since that easement area is where the snow plow piles up all the snow to melt).

Bill
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: DrPizza
but I actually own the property up to the edge of the street

So, you don't own the street.

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET
Okay, then who owns the street? It's not a public street, but the city plows it and maintains it?! I've never heard of such a thing. I've heard of private streets before - in planned subdivisions. But generally (at least I thought), the subdivision is responsible for plowing.

Im having some trouble believing you can't get this. Its very common. The city controls an easement 6 feet into the property line, he can't build there, but its still his property. In snow areas (at least here in Big Bear) you can't park in the street OR that easement area (since that easement area is where the snow plow piles up all the snow to melt).

Bill

So by that token, the neighbors are parking in his yard... not on the street. If that's the case, as I said, he has every right to call a tow company and have the car towed at the owner's expense. Hell, he could even go over and smear shit all over the car if he wanted to - they've abandoned the vehicle on his property. Not to mention their vehicle is improperly parked.

But my bet is that they're parking on the side of the road right in front of his house, which is CITY property, not his. Like I said, this is pretty rediculous and the OP should just grow up.
 

bsobel

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So by that token, the neighbors are parking in his yard... not on the street. If that's the case, as I said, he has every right to call a tow company and have the car towed at the owner's expense. Hell, he could even go over and smear shit all over the car if he wanted to - they've abandoned the vehicle on his property. Not to mention their vehicle is improperly parked.

Yes, that is the point. Many cities wont bother to tow a car in such a case unless its been there for awhile (mistakes happen, police have better things to do, etc) which explains the 4 hour thing. If it was truely on the street, he'd never get the police to do anything.

I really think he just explained it poorly, based on homes I have I get what he meant (at least I think I do). But of course, being ATOT everyone had to jump and call im a baby or a liar instead.

 

Savij

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: DrPizza
but I actually own the property up to the edge of the street

So, you don't own the street.

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET
Okay, then who owns the street? It's not a public street, but the city plows it and maintains it?! I've never heard of such a thing. I've heard of private streets before - in planned subdivisions. But generally (at least I thought), the subdivision is responsible for plowing.

Im having some trouble believing you can't get this. Its very common. The city controls an easement 6 feet into the property line, he can't build there, but its still his property. In snow areas (at least here in Big Bear) you can't park in the street OR that easement area (since that easement area is where the snow plow piles up all the snow to melt).

Bill

So by that token, the neighbors are parking in his yard... not on the street. If that's the case, as I said, he has every right to call a tow company and have the car towed at the owner's expense. Hell, he could even go over and smear shit all over the car if he wanted to - they've abandoned the vehicle on his property. Not to mention their vehicle is improperly parked.

But my bet is that they're parking on the side of the road right in front of his house, which is CITY property, not his. Like I said, this is pretty rediculous and the OP should just grow up.


So I was doing some research on this issue and I came across this interesting tidbit of information: LOCAL ORDINANCES VARY BY LOCALITY. That blew my mind. I mean holy shit, the entire country doesn't have the exact same laws everywhere you go!! Just because you can tow anything from your property doesn't mean the same applies everywhere. His city may very well have a process to go through before you can two a car that doesn't belong to you. It may be parked on his property, but it's not his car, and he's probably better off getting the police to tow the car.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: DrPizza
but I actually own the property up to the edge of the street

So, you don't own the street.

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC STREET
Okay, then who owns the street? It's not a public street, but the city plows it and maintains it?! I've never heard of such a thing. I've heard of private streets before - in planned subdivisions. But generally (at least I thought), the subdivision is responsible for plowing.

Im having some trouble believing you can't get this. Its very common. The city controls an easement 6 feet into the property line, he can't build there, but its still his property. In snow areas (at least here in Big Bear) you can't park in the street OR that easement area (since that easement area is where the snow plow piles up all the snow to melt).

Bill

So by that token, the neighbors are parking in his yard... not on the street. If that's the case, as I said, he has every right to call a tow company and have the car towed at the owner's expense. Hell, he could even go over and smear shit all over the car if he wanted to - they've abandoned the vehicle on his property. Not to mention their vehicle is improperly parked.

But my bet is that they're parking on the side of the road right in front of his house, which is CITY property, not his. Like I said, this is pretty rediculous and the OP should just grow up.

OK, it is not a curbed street and I think that might be where some of the confusion lies.

Technically it is my property but I am limited to what I can and cannot do in that area since the city may need access for some reason. Hence the right of way.

The houses are side by side 15 feet apart, there is gravel from the edge of the street to 5 feet into my yard towards my home. Some people have grass up to the street, some have blacktop up to the street...my home and hers which are side by side have gravel.

It is less distance for her to park in front of her own home or in her own driveway than it is to park in front of my home, on my property which I pay taxes on. I think after being a responsible homeowner for the last 15 years I have earned the right to dictate who parks in my yard and who does not....don't you?

My problem is this...if someone asked (which is what I did) me not to park in front of their home for WHATEVER reason, the neighborly thing to do would be move it....not question them and not go on to provoke them....just move the damn car and be done.

However....because she feels she has the right to go where she wants, do what she wants and have control on what goes on in the neighborhood my asking her was denying her something she felt she had a "right" to even though it does not belong to her......get it?

at one point her exact words were: Just who the fvck do you think you are...the city has right of way and if I want to park there...godddamn it I will!"

This whole thing got blown out of proportion because for a long time we were close friends and then over time life got in the way and the friendship fell by the wayside...they took it personal like we were snubbing them even though we still said hello and waved periodically...still trying to be cordial and civil....well she wanted to make it personal now it is.


besides it does not excuse her actions of destruction of private property...or am I missing something here?


<-----WOO HOO!...time to feed the birds :D
 

bsobel

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besides it does not excuse her actions of destruction of private property...or am I missing something here?

<-----WOO HOO!...time to feed the birds :D

Oh the irony in those two lines.

 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Wheezer


My problem is this...if someone asked (which is what I did) me not to park in front of their home for WHATEVER reason, the neighborly thing to do would be move it....not question them and not go on to provoke them....just move the damn car and be done.

i asked my neighbors to stop parking in front of my house due to their daughters car leaking oil all over the street. didnt work the first couple times until i took her mom outside and showed her the oil all over the street and explained it with visuals. after that, her car was parked in their driveway. oil all over that and her son couldnt play basket ball anymore (hoop was over her garage). now its all stained and they have to have the driveway stripped and cleaned to sell the house, and at no time in all this was their answer "we should fix the oil leak". lol.
 

mh47g

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Originally posted by: bsobel
besides it does not excuse her actions of destruction of private property...or am I missing something here?

<-----WOO HOO!...time to feed the birds :D

Oh the irony in those two lines.


Birdshit != Tire marks on grass
 

SunnyD

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Alright then, point is established - she's parking on your property. Call a tow company. Do NOT call the police.

Also be sure to post a sign that says "Private Parking only, unauthorized vehicles will be towed at owner's expense." Next step is to set up with your favorite tow company so as they know not to tow YOUR vehicles, or only tow from your address if you or the city authorize it. Finally, let the fun begin.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Alright then, point is established - she's parking on your property. Call a tow company. Do NOT call the police.

Also be sure to post a sign that says "Private Parking only, unauthorized vehicles will be towed at owner's expense." Next step is to set up with your favorite tow company so as they know not to tow YOUR vehicles, or only tow from your address if you or the city authorize it. Finally, let the fun begin.

seriously, why haven't you done this before?
 

DrPizza

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OK, it is not a curbed street and I think that might be where some of the confusion lies.

Technically it is my property but I am limited to what I can and cannot do in that area since the city may need access for some reason. Hence the right of way.

The houses are side by side 15 feet apart, there is gravel from the edge of the street to 5 feet into my yard towards my home. Some people have grass up to the street, some have blacktop up to the street...my home and hers which are side by side have gravel.

Why didn't you just say so in the first place? It would have been so much clearer. If that's the case, then why do the police insist on four hours? That's the really weird part.

btw, you need to learn what to feed to the birds. There are some foods that they love which makes 20x the mess. Of course, those things aren't available at grocery stores or wal-mart; in fact I don't know if anyone sells them. But, once you know why types of berries to pick and store, it's worth a drive out to the country to find them.

Also, next time she's parked there, why not have a "party" at your house and box her car in? You can (I assume) legally park in your lawn however you want to.