Lockheed Martin is a fail company

[Sureshot324]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

 

[Numenorean]

Let's see you start a company that is as successful.

 

[Fritzo]

$100000 for a Porsche 911??? WTF??? Porsche used to be a great company. They lost their way. It's like the price of their cars went up by 5x over the last 40 years or something!

 

[manimal]

if canadians only buy one like their tank than its very cost effective...

 

[rudeguy]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

LOL

wow...this is what you have to think about? You might want to get out a little more.

 

[BoomerD]

The OP is right. The RCAF should stick with what they know...

 

[Dominato3r]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

Good luck getting Russia to sell them to one of America's closest allies.

Just wondering, do Americans have a say on what the US military/government purchases or do they just do whatever the hell they want?

 

[Scouzer]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

Dude.. a Eurofighter Typhoon is $125 million. It's not like they are worlds cheaper than the F35's our government is buying.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

At £125 million why not buy some Eurofighter Typhoons...

Fail.

 

[spidey07]

And yet you still buy them at that price? Go-go-gadget Capitalism!

 

[Dominato3r]

The OP is right. The RCAF should stick with what they know...

-snip-

What's the RCAF?

:hmm:

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Screw you, I always get sick of hearing crap from Dassault/Airbus Fanboys/Lockheed haters.

 

[qliveur]

I agree that the cost of an F-22 is ridiculous for what it can do. The F-35, not so much.

 

[gorcorps]

The people I know who work there don't think too highly of it's inner workings either

 

[shiner]

Hell I'm surprised to find out the Canadians aren't still flying Sopwith Camels or some model of Nieuport

 

[BoomerD]

What's the RCAF?

:hmm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Air_Force


OK, looks like they've renamed it...again.

"In 1968 the three branches of the Canadian military were merged into the Canadian Forces and the RCAF was disbanded.

The modern Canadian air force has been known as Canadian Forces Air Command (AIRCOM) since 1975, but still refers to itself as the "Air Force" and maintains many of the traditions of the RCAF."

 

[Dominato3r]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Air_Force


OK, looks like they've renamed it...again.

"In 1968 the three branches of the Canadian military were merged into the Canadian Forces and the RCAF was disbanded.

The modern Canadian air force has been known as Canadian Forces Air Command (AIRCOM) since 1975, but still refers to itself as the "Air Force" and maintains many of the traditions of the RCAF."

Again?

What was it before RCAF? :hmm:

 

[0roo0roo]

r&d costs spread over small production run = big cost.

no sh*t.

 

[0roo0roo]

At £125 million why not buy some Eurofighter Typhoons...

Fail.

eh, you should look into the cost overruns delays and other shenanigans with that as well, it is not comparable anyways.

 

[zerocool84]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

Yea they are so fail that they cost so much yet many countries are still buying them.

 

[Schadenfroh]

1. F22 is not for export, but it should be (although as a gimped export version)
2. As stated above a EuroFighter is not that much cheaper than an F35 and not as good.
3. An F-35 can easily shoot down $150 million worth of SU-35s (Russian Multi-role fighter) before one casualty.

 

[BoomerD]

Again?

What was it before RCAF? :hmm:

Need new glasses?

"In 1968 the three branches of the Canadian military were merged into the Canadian Forces and the RCAF was disbanded.

The modern Canadian air force has been known as Canadian Forces Air Command (AIRCOM) since 1975, but still refers to itself as the "Air Force" and maintains many of the traditions of the RCAF."

1. RCAF
2. Canadian Forces
3. Canadian Forces Air Command

 

[shortylickens]

Good luck getting Russia to sell them to one of America's closest allies.

Just wondering, do Americans have a say on what the US military/government purchases or do they just do whatever the hell they want?

Next time you vote for your congressman, see how he spends money on the DoD.

 

[Jeff7]

$150 million for an F35? $250 million for an F22? Really? These fighters are not even remotely cost effective. They might have once bean a great company, but somewhere they lost their way. As a Canadian Citizen I'm disgusted that our government is even considering buying these overpriced POS. We'd be better off buying Russian fighters or Eurofighter Typhoons.

<ominous music>

"Could you put a price on your children's freedom?"

<scene of Hitler eating a kitten>

 

[Sureshot324]

Good luck getting Russia to sell them to one of America's closest allies.

Just wondering, do Americans have a say on what the US military/government purchases or do they just do whatever the hell they want?

Russian fighters are made by private companies, not the government, and they sell them to countries far more likely to use them against Russia than Canada.

According to wikipedia, the per unit cost of a Typhoon is $125 mil including development costs. The cost of an F35 is $122 mil - $150 mil not including dev costs, which are HUGE, and all customers have to pay their share.