Local sheriff criticized for telling citizens to get a gun and learn to use it.

SandEagle

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“The police are not omnipresent, we can’t be everywhere all the time. Sometimes we can’t be there as fast as we’d like. So in those situations, once the wolf is at the door, once the intruder is in your home, once a guy sticks a gun in your face on the street and demands your wallet or wants to take your car, 911 isn’t going to help you,” Clarke said, adding that he feels it’s his “obligation” to make sure people are aware of how they can protect themselves.

yup
 

waggy

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lol the mayor is pissed he ain't telling people to call 911.

they laid off officers! he is telling you to call 911 but don't expect a response fast enough (well duh) so you should learn to protect yourself.

smart man.
 

darkxshade

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I have no problem with it in general but considering I think more than half the population are idiots, this is a bad idea. :\
 

DrunkenSano

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People are idiots and they believe they live in some perfect bubble where they are totally protected from harm. They are dumb enough to see guns as something that would only harm them, not something that could also protect them.
 

Nintendesert

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I have no problem with it in general but considering I think more than half the population are idiots, this is a bad idea. :\





Look at how many crooked/idiot/criminal cop threads we have on here. Even the idiots should find a better way of protecting themselves than calling 911.
 

Jimzz

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How about instead of a pissing match offer a REAL class on guns. Teach people how to use correctly, safely, when to use them, and how to keep them away from kids and thieves. That and also the laws of the state and local area. Like when you can legally use them, when NOT to use them, how to transport them legally, etc…

Instead all we get is pissing matches between politicians and the nut jobs on each extreme saying see!!! every time.
 

waggy

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Look at how many crooked/idiot/criminal cop threads we have on here. Even the idiots should find a better way of protecting themselves than calling 911.

i disagree with this.

Call 911 and have a plan to protect yourself (btw calling 911 is part of that. keeps you out of legal trouble).

It amazes me how many people think 911 is going to protect you all the time. I always see in gun threads "call 911 and let them handle it! they are trained for it!" let who handle it? the clean up crew?


How about instead of a pissing match offer a REAL class on guns. Teach people how to use correctly, safely, when to use them, and how to keep them away from kids and thieves. That and also the laws of the state and local area. Like when you can legally use them, when NOT to use them, how to transport them legally, etc…

Instead all we get is pissing matches between politicians and the nut jobs on each extreme saying see!!! every time.

OH MY THIS! fucking this.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I have no problem with it in general but considering I think more than half the population are idiots, this is a bad idea. :\

The cop thinks it's a bad idea too. The police DO NOT want a 100% armed populace. This is the sheriff throwing a hissy fit that his budget got cut and he's trying to get the media/voters to fight his budget battles for him.
 

Nintendesert

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i disagree with this.

Call 911 and have a plan to protect yourself (btw calling 911 is part of that. keeps you out of legal trouble).

It amazes me how many people think 911 is going to protect you all the time. I always see in gun threads "call 911 and let them handle it! they are trained for it!" let who handle it? the clean up crew?




OH MY THIS! fucking this.




Maybe I should have stated "better ways than just calling 911."

:biggrin:
 

irishScott

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How about instead of a pissing match offer a REAL class on guns. Teach people how to use correctly, safely, when to use them, and how to keep them away from kids and thieves. That and also the laws of the state and local area. Like when you can legally use them, when NOT to use them, how to transport them legally, etc…

Instead all we get is pissing matches between politicians and the nut jobs on each extreme saying see!!! every time.

x a billion.
 

Nintendesert

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The cop thinks it's a bad idea too. The police DO NOT want a 100% armed populace. This is the sheriff throwing a hissy fit that his budget got cut and he's trying to get the media/voters to fight his budget battles for him.




Who gives a shit what cops think or want though? They'd love to not have to worry about a 4th or 5th Amendment too. :whiste:
 

Bateluer

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Why are people critizing him? He's 100% right.

We need to stop attacking and tearing down the people with solutions in the US.
 

DrunkenSano

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Because the cop appears to be pro-gun and most of the people criticizing are ignorant enough these days to think that guns are an evil, evil thing and that all guns will be..
 

mmntech

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I don't think he's advocating guns and self-defense here so much as trying to scare people about the layoffs. He's basically saying you'd better get a gun because the police aren't coming to help you, that is unless you cancel the layoffs. Civil servants love this type of fear mongering when their jobs are on the line.
 

irishScott

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I don't think he's advocating guns and self-defense here so much as trying to scare people about the layoffs. He's basically saying you'd better get a gun because the police aren't coming to help you, that is unless you cancel the layoffs. Civil servants love this type of fear mongering when their jobs are on the line.

As much as I agree with his overall message, which is true even if police funding is at its peak, I'm inclined to think this as well. Would also explain the mayor's empty "fuck you" of a response.