Lion vs. Tiger

[Silver Prime]

Got another one, on there co-exsisting...

Sociobiology: The New Synthesis

By Edward O. Wilson

Lions and tigers did coexist over most of India until the 1800's, when lions began to be reduced even more quickly than tigers by intensive hunting and deterioration of the environment.
http://books.google.com/books?id=v7...a=X&ei=mm8QUdWrH8vMigKfh4GABg&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAA
~Harvard University Press, 2000 - Science - 697 pages

 

[Silver Prime]

He's pointing out that spamming art prints really doesn't constitute data in support of your argument.

Nah thats not it, an its funny you feel the need to capatalize on the gesture, simply because you're ignorant an insecure about whats been taking place here of how much you've been owned. So you have the little man syndrome also known as "the last say bit" where you have nothing to contribute on the subject so you resort into trolling which leads to the down fall of your whole well being mentaly...ergo you an your girl friends cant stay away from this thread even if someone payed you.

That also shows how weak your minds are, which leads to how easly I can rial you up an get a good laugh out of you, by taking crack shots at you in other threads, because what ever you post, I can now with the simplest disagreements mind-screw you in any thread. lol

In being the historical artifacts are in a catagorie of there own, I not once said everysingle one were a actual account, I merely explained there credability in the origination of where they hailed from, before I posted them...I provided books, an newspaper archives that documented lion an tiger conflict casualties, which are irrifutable, in lamin's terms, you can cry and cry all you want that I presented nothing, yet I leave it in the comprehending skills of the viewers...which by a few on this very thread seems to contradict you an your girl band here of saying...no one cares, no one will belive, no anything...by all means carry on your charade...I actually love the fact that I can put the data to the test an have it come out squeeky clean as it has.

So carry on in your mission to meaninglessly bump the thread.

^_^

 

[WelshBloke]

Ummm, you're not winding anybody up.

Nobody here really gives a shit about lions vs tigers. The whole thread was just a joke to pass the time. Thank god you weren't here for the "how many 5 year olds could you take on in a fight" thread. You'd have got us shut down.

The only reason people are posting now is in a kind of horrified wonder at where you're going to go next.

 

[Silver Prime]

Ummm, you're not winding anybody up.

Nobody here really gives a shit about lions vs tigers. The whole thread was just a joke to pass the time. Thank god you weren't here for the "how many 5 year olds could you take on in a fight" thread. You'd have got us shut down.

The only reason people are posting now is in a kind of horrified wonder at where you're going to go next.

Theres that good oh contradicting again XD The occaisional insults, followed by tremendous stalking an trolling?

Yup, that sounds a bit wined up to me.

Sing on bro, sing on. ^_^

 

[WelshBloke]

Theres that good oh contradicting again XD The occaisional insults, followed by tremendous stalking an trolling?

Yup, that sounds a bit wined up to me.

Sing on bro, sing on. ^_^

There's really no contradiction.

Look at it this way.

There's a bunch of guys sitting at a table in the pub talking bollocks about nothing. Suddenly some nutter comes in, sits with them and starts being really intense and serious about the crap they were talking.

At this point they don't care about the crap they were discussing earlier. The entertainment is now in winding up the nutter.

 

[Silver Prime]

There's really no contradiction.

Look at it this way.

There's a bunch of guys sitting at a table in the pub talking bollocks about nothing. Suddenly some nutter comes in, sits with them and starts being really intense and serious about the crap they were talking.

At this point they don't care about the crap they were discussing earlier. The entertainment is now in winding up the nutter.

Actually its quite the oposite, a few people are haveing a disscusion about historical finds, an some mentaly ill person comes up an starts blabbering, no one cares. What happens next is that retard is ask to leave, repeatively he resist an is then pummeled to an inch of his life.

^_^

But just found another one disproving all the myth that tigers an lions couldent encounter the other in the wild...

Science Under Siege: Defending Science

Lions and tigers once coexisted naturally in India, and although they are
outwardly very different, they can mate to create tigons or ligers.
http://books.google.com/books?id=w8...a=X&ei=a3MQUeG5J6jkiwLa_IGgDg&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAw

Along with some other locations of lions living out of africa...

The Asiatic or Persian Lion (Panthera leo persica, Meyer 1826) in Palestine and the Arabian and Islamic Region.*
By: Norman Ali Bassam Ali Taher Khalaf-von Jaffa.
This article was published in "Gazelle : The Palestinian Biological Bulletin". Number 58, October 2006, pp. 1-13.

The Asiatic or Persian Lion (Panthera leo persica) is a subspecies of lion (Panthera leo).
The last remnant of the Asiatic Lion, which in historical times ranged from Caucasus to Yemen and from Macedonia to India through Arabia and Iran (Persia), lives in the Gir Forest National Park of western India.
http://www.oocities.org/jaffacity/Asiatic_Lion.html.tmp

 

[WelshBloke]

Actually its quite the oposite, a few people are haveing a disscusion about historical finds, an some mentaly ill person comes up an starts blabbering, no one cares. What happens next is that retard is ask to leave, repeatively he resist an is then pummeled to an inch of his life.

Ok. So who, apart from you, was having a discussion about historical finds?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Its okay bro...you were sodomized, we get it.

Yes, I'm sure you get it quite often.

Yet when people read this entire thread, people wont comprehend that, thats the natrual order because you presented nothing a kid couldent even belive.

XD

I know English isn't your first language, but the above is pretty pathetic for even ESL standards. It's clear you lack the intelligence to realize the superiority of tigers, and that is why you mindlessly fight for the lion's sake -- since they cannot fight for themselves.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

Charlie Sheen drinks tiger blood, not lion blood. Reason?

Lions are soft. Tigers kill.

Game over.

 

[Silver Prime]

Heres not all from this very thread, but just a few...

Where have you read about this stuff? That sounds interesting.

This thread needs more references.

According to several sources listed on the lion vs. tiger debate wiki, tigers have historically beaten lions. I'm sure you can cherry pick examples from both sides. I'm not informed enough to have a full picture of the issue.

Battle cat.

Not to mention others who posted gestures of intrest...

Historically these matchups had to have occured somewhere! Surely there is documentation about this.

an Passive compliments...

Where has this thread been my entire life.

Just when I thought I'd seen it all, we managed to scrape up the preeminent authority on interspecies battles in the world. Bravo, ATOT...bravo.

an this one sums up you an your girlfriends butt hurt campaign going there...

Thinly veiled tiger fanboy rant.

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[Silver Prime]

Yes, I'm sure you get it quite often.


I know English isn't your first language, but the above is pretty pathetic for even ESL standards. It's clear you lack the intelligence to realize the superiority of tigers, and that is why you mindlessly fight for the lion's sake -- since they cannot fight for themselves.

So your the type that plays the victimized game, look...if you got somodized thats your problem, if you cant handle your life problems than see a shrink, you get no where playing the victim...unless you wanted that awful thing to happen to you, (which you're now emitting) than god can only help you.

As for grammar an puctuation, sometimes I rush, theres nothing wrong with that, unless you'd like to play the blame game too, becasue I could visit your profile track down all your post an point out all the fuck ups in your retarded post's grammar an punctuations...but ahh, I'm not like you loser stalker cry babys...I'm good with just demolishing you with creditable information.

^_^

 

[WelshBloke]

Heres not all from this very thread, but just a few...








Battle cat.

Not to mention others who posted gestures of intrest...



an Passive compliments...





an this one sums up you an your girlfriends butt hurt campaign going there...

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Lol.

Does someone else want to explain what's going on?

 

[Silver Prime]

awww ya had to cloud your vision? To bad you cant cloud ya memory.

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[WelshBloke]

awww ya had to cloud your vision? To bad you cant cloud ya memory.

XD

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Not explain to me.

Explain to you.

 

[Silver Prime]

 

[WelshBloke]

 

[Silver Prime]

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[Silver Prime]

Whoa, just found this one, a lion kills an eats a tiger...

A state of emergency was declared in Alexandria after a young circus tiger vanished from its cage, Newspapers reported that the tigers remains were found several hours later in the cage of two lion cubs.
~Eugene Register-Guard - Aug 29, 1973
http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...IBAJ&pg=1272,7019407&dq=lion+eats+tiger&hl=en

6 an 8 colomes down
http://www.google.com/search?ie=ISO-8859-1&q=lion+eats+tiger+&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=newspapers
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I'll see if I can get a copy of the article to inlarge the wordings.

 

[WelshBloke]

XD

XD

XD

I'm dealing with one dead body, one dying patient and a bunch of confused patients.

You ain't making me mad, this thread is entertainment.

 

[Silver Prime]

I'm dealing with one dead body, one dying patient and a bunch of confused patients.

You ain't making me mad, this thread is entertainment.

XD

XD
Phew, just found another one...

{1930}
Lion is the superior of a tiger in battle was recently settled during the course of a circus performance at Turin.
LION BEATS TIGER IN ONE-ROUND CIRCUS FIGHT
Date: Nov 30, 1930
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/...+TIGER+IN+ONE-ROUND+CIRCUS+FIGHT&pqatl=google

 

[Silver Prime]

Wow I just noticed that my last account I just posted was in Turin, I looked up turins location an found out it was in italy.

So thats another more modern account that transends the leaps of time threw out history, so in comparisons of the roman venatios...in the anceint times there are documents of lions killing tigers more often than vice versa in places like the coloseium threw scriptures an rock epigram recordings, in the dark ages there were more accounts an sources that recorded fights having lions kill tigers more often in small amphintheaters recorded in paintings and remnents, threw the medeval times-to modern times there are more accounts of lions killing tigers reported in circuses and zoos recorded by news paper archives.

In no era is there any indications of tiger superiorty, there is only either no accounts mentioned or merely one or 2 accounts threw out the venatios of rome compared to the consistancy of records that traveled up the ladder starting from the first documentations showing each era had an abundentcy of accounts of lions winning the roman venatios.

The quanity at this point, points towards the lion being the dominant animal in fights, arranged, pitted, accidental, or on there own accord...more studys will be needed to come up with a conclusive decission.

 

[Silver Prime]

I found a link to one of my missing alibies here...

{1957}
Frankfurt Zoological Gardens,
a free for all erupted at performance of ten big cats eight lions an two tiger’s. The two tigers were killed by a lion and two lions were killed by the remaining six.
~Guiness records
another source here…
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicago...ill+Pair+of+Tigers+in+German+Zoo&pqatl=google

an I found the 17th lion killing bear account...

A fight between a lioness and a bear at Bostock's zoo in the cyclorama building yesterday resulted in the death of the bear in just about one round
Fight at Bostock's Zoo Was a Very Brief One. Animals Had Been Let Out for an Airing and Bruno Started Hostilities. Queenie Struck Him on the Head and Sunk Her Teeth Into His Neck.
Mar 5, 1902
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/...Globe&desc=LIONESS+KILLS+A+BEAR.&pqatl=google

I also found a source of a 1,000 pound obese african lion...
1,000 pound african lion
http://www.semissourian.com/story/131162.html

an also another large african lion at 900 pounds...

hloroforming of an African Lion in Augusta Yesterday. HE HAD CONTRACTED RHEUMATISM And His Owner Decided on Ending the Animal's Sufferings--A Fight Near the Sibley Mills. a number of spectators witnessed his killing today. was twenty-two years old and weighed 900 pounds.
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/ajc_his...stitution&desc=PRINCE+WAS+KILLED&pqatl=google
weight mentioned 3 colomes down...
http://www.google.com/search?q=prin...s=ar:1&tbm=nws&ei=itkQUcikOLGxigLvvIGoCg&sa=N

I'll try an see if I can get a photo of those 2 ^ lions for credability an details in how large they really were, for captive lions can by far get larger than there wild counter parts simply because they are then fed in a manner of a solitary consistancy, in the wild they would only get small portions of there prey for the entire pride which can have as much members as 30.

Again solitary eating is what seperates the barrier world of tiger an lion comparisons, if a tiger had a pride, he wouldent be able to gorge his usual amount of diet. So when lions are fed individually, they tend to grow large an look like these lions...
Woody the 800 pound lion

~Owners:Hells Angels
http://books.google.com/books?id=9M...X&ei=VX0GUJC2Leqi2gXO4MmPBQ&ved=0CCQQ6AEwADgK

Simba the 826 pound lion

~Owner: Nyoka
Simba died in 1973 an posthumously tipped the scaled at 826 pounds simba had been tamed an was featured in several movies including Cleopatra (1963) starring elizabeth taylor.
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2011/111102/changeofpace.html

As soon as I get some pictures donated of Prince the 900 pound lion an the 1,000 pound lion from the animal sanqtuary, I'll include them in the list of over 40 lions of the legendary

Valhala lions

 

[Silver Prime]

Just got the 18th lion killing bear account...

Daytona Beach Morning Journal - Apr 6, 1950
Calif A mother bear, defending her two cubs, fought a losing battle with a powerful lion.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...mother+bear+defending+her+two+cubs+died&hl=en

It seems the lion managed to kill a cub as well...I always thought a mother bear defending her cubs will more likely kill a lion, but I guess that goes for mountain lions, not so much african lions.

I'll try an find the article on another news paper archive to see if I can blow up the article, google articles are very small, an I cant review them because this com, just cant I guess.

So we have accounts of lions killing sloth, to moon bears, grizzly to polar bears, theres a tiger account killing a huge polar bear too, but its funny, theres 2 accounts of a polar bear defeating 2 lions, an a seperate account of a polar bear defeating 2 tigers at once...so it would seem a polar bear is more ferocious when hes out numberd, one on one, not so much, even a sloth bear killed a polar bear...thats saying something.

But then again, theres to many faults on a polar bear out of his natrual enviorment...for one thing, just normal tempatures can kill a polar bear let alone an exhasting 20 minute fight in hot temputures would give a massive heat stroke to a polar bear, in artic weather a polar bear should have all the time in the world.

Jesus christ!!!

^^^Simba, Shere kahn...I think you have met your match!

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

So your the type that plays the victimized game, look...if you got somodized thats your problem, if you cant handle your life problems than see a shrink, you get no where playing the victim...unless you wanted that awful thing to happen to you, (which you're now emitting) than god can only help you.

As for grammar an puctuation, sometimes I rush, theres nothing wrong with that, unless you'd like to play the blame game too, becasue I could visit your profile track down all your post an point out all the fuck ups in your retarded post's grammar an punctuations...but ahh, I'm not like you loser stalker cry babys...I'm good with just demolishing you with creditable information.

^_^

Paraphrasing: YOU BAD, ME GOOD. THEREFORE LIONS WIN.

You're gonna have to do better than that, Poindexter. Clearly the tigers are the vastly superior hunter and regularly massacre the pathetic lions.

 

[Silver Prime]

I found the article on the bear, bull an lion fight, there are 6 articles an one stated the bear was 700 pounds while the lion 500, articles explain that the lion survived 2 fights a semi draw with the bear having the bears durability out weigh the lions onslaught, an the bear savagely killed by the bull.

also a few bear an tiger interactions as well...
bear kills 1 300 pound tigres an 1 500 pound male tiger...

another bear kills a bengal tiger...

Grizzly bear beats up big tiger...