Lion pwns Hyena = awesome

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Bears are badass, I think we can all agree on that.

But who doesn't like to see the hyenas get their asses kicked? Those filthy kill stealing mangy dirtballs.

Lions steal hyena kills too sometimes... it's just whoever has the strongest force at a kill.

Yeah... but when lions do it it's cool. :thumbsup:

Ok... I agree that hyenas are butt ugly, but they have evolved to be good at what they do. I think calling them "filthy kill stealing mangy dirtballs" is unfair though.

Why? They look dirty, they steal kills, they're mangy...I dunno about the dirtball thing though.

They all have their place, but the big cats are cooler so I like to see them win. I hate it when the mother cheetah does all that hard work chasing down a kill to feed her cubs, and then a pack of hyenas comes along and steals the kill out from under her.

Hyenas are pretty weird animals though. The females have false ballsacks and I believe are larger and more aggressive than the males.

 

[Doboji]

This bear vs tiger argument is possibly the most stupid argument in the history of atot.

bear>lion>tiger


but






















man w/ak47 > *

-Max

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Doboji
This bear vs tiger argument is possibly the most stupid argument in the history of atot.

bear>lion>tiger


but

man w/ak47 > *

-Max

Even man with just a stick and fire man probably does quite well against them.

I always find it interesting that man survived and eventually flourished during a time when animals like this were probably much larger and had higher populations. Man is horribly weak, slow, has crummy hearing and a virtually useless sense of smell. We must have discovered fire very early on to keep from being eaten. Either that, or we taste like crap.

 

[snoopdoug1]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
nothing can mess with a huge grizzly bear, end of story

except for a polar bear

 

[Yanagi]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

A fully grown male brown bear, even the Siberian type, can be over 1,200 lbs. A Grizzly, like the kind in Dr. Doolittle, can be over 1,500 lbs.

Promethply is deliberately trying to match up a small, female brown bear to a fully grown siberian tiger to make it sound like it sound like the tiger would win in a fight. But in reality it would not have much of a chance against a fully grown male brown bear.

The fully grown male brown bear is *much* larger and more powerful than a fully grown male siberian tiger. They live in the same forests and we already know that a bear isn't going to outrun a tiger, so it's common sense that they meet up. Since the bear is much more powerful than the tiger, the tiger runs away. That is reality.

yeah, I don't see what's so hard about this...

Grizzlies put all their stat points into Strength and Vitality, so they can last a LONG time and deal a lot of damage. Tigers put theirs into Agility and Dexterity, so unless they can get a lot of critical hits and dodge all the bear's blows, they'll lose. Which is why they have to take on lower level bears for it to be a fair fight.

Wow, you've played RO way too much! but DEX doesnt do crits. Its LUK that does it

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
nothing can mess with a huge grizzly bear, end of story

except for a polar bear

Polar bears are actually weaker. They're bigger, but they're skinnier, built lighter, and have much smaller claws. But they're good at swimming.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: jagec
yeah, I don't see what's so hard about this...

Grizzlies put all their stat points into Strength and Vitality, so they can last a LONG time and deal a lot of damage. Tigers put theirs into Agility and Dexterity, so unless they can get a lot of critical hits and dodge all the bear's blows, they'll lose. Which is why they have to take on lower level bears for it to be a fair fight.

Hahaha, awesome

 

[five40]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Doug3737

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
nothing can mess with a huge grizzly bear, end of story

except for a polar bear

Polar bears are actually weaker. They're bigger, but they're skinnier, built lighter, and have much smaller claws. But they're good at swimming.

What the hell? Where you raised by bears? Damn I've never seen anyone post some much stuff about damn bears. Whenever ANYONE mentions something even remotely bad about a bear you come posting like you are defending the den.

 

[91TTZ]

Ok, to appease promethply I've taken this fight to the next level and used competitors that he would agree with.

In one corner, coming out of retirement (extinction) we have a saber-toothed tiger. In the other corner, we have a cookie shaped like a teddy bear.

To make this fight even more fair according to Promethply's demand, the saber toothed tiger has been checked for diabetes to make sure it cannot be harmed by eating the cookie.

Update: This just in- upon further request, an additional saber-toothed tiger has been allowed to enter the ring.

Big John McCarthy will referee the fight. The cookie is not allowed to defend itself. Let the matchup begin:

To Saber-toothed tigers: "Are you ready?"
To cookie: "Are you ready?"
To both: "Let's get it on!"

Oh my, it's a stunning defeat for the cookie. Unable to defend itself, it's been eaten in less than a second. This stands as conclusive proof that a big cat can defeat a bear in battle.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: five40

What the hell? Where you raised by bears?

Yes.

Originally posted by: five40

Damn I've never seen anyone post some much stuff about damn bears.

Never been to Chicago, have you?

Originally posted by: five40

Whenever ANYONE mentions something even remotely bad about a bear you come posting like you are defending the den.

What would you do if someone badmouthed YOUR parents?

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Ok, to appease promethply I've taken this fight to the next level and used competitors that he would agree with.

In one corner, coming out of retirement (extinction) we have a saber-toothed tiger. In the other corner, we have a cookie shaped like a teddy bear.

To make this fight even more fair according to Promethply's demand, the saber toothed tiger has been checked for diabetes to make sure it cannot be harmed by eating the cookie.

Update: This just in- upon further request, an additional saber-toothed tiger has been allowed to enter the ring.

Big John McCarthy will referee the fight. The cookie is not allowed to defend itself. Let the matchup begin:

To Saber-toothed tigers: "Are you ready?"
To cookie: "Are you ready?"
To both: "Let's get it on!"

Oh my, it's a stunning defeat for the cookie. Unable to defend itself, it's been eaten in less than a second. This stands as conclusive proof that a big cat can defeat a bear in battle.

I knew it!

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
I like to see a lion taking on a Bear or a Tiger, that would be awesome.

Bears own pretty much any other land based carnivore 1v1 - easily. They can be ganked though i'm sure

 

[Malladine]

holy sh|t that made me sweat

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
I like to see a lion taking on a Bear or a Tiger, that would be awesome.

It wouldn't even be a contest with the bear. The bear would have the lion dead in under 5 seconds.

It was discussed here before and someone posted a link to a page that said that back in the 1800s people in California betted on various animal "cock fights". The bookies set up matches between a grizzly bear and some spanish bulls, but eventually gave up on this because everyone always bet on the bear and everyone always won. The bull would charge, the bear would take one swat at it with its paw and break the bull's shoulders. The rest was easy.

So they spent even more money bringing in African lions. Same thing. One swat from a grizzly's paw and the lion was down. Most times the skull was shattered.

Apparently grizzly bears have a bone density that's something like 4x normal. It's like they have skeletons made out of steel, and a paw is just a huge steel club.

And polar bears, while slightly larger, have more slender skulls, thinner bones, and much smaller claws. Just FYI.

That makes sense when you consider then prey they might sometimes hunt, like moose, though they'll mostly be lazy and easily catch the spawning salmon in the river shallows. But they could have to protect themselves and cubs from large and angry moose, elk, etc...

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Wow, the scene after 2:25 is just breathtaking. Just amazing.

Thats why the lion is and will always remain the king of the jungle.

Now if only they lived in "jungles".

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Multiple Siberian tigers will attack almost anything if their numbers are high enough. I don't care how big or thick the bear is, it can only protect itself in so many places at any given time. The bear might take out 2 with a swipe of its paw, but the other three will be sinking their fangs into the back of its neck. Don't forget, tigers can jump extremely high, easily matching the height of an average size bear.

In the wild, nothing is certain.

Well, litters of siberians aren't often more than 2. Juvenile siberians are doubtful to attack a bear. Unless cornered the mother would probably rather catch something safe, like a deer. Adult tigers are mostly solitary animals. So I don't know where you're getting this "pride" of 5 tigers.

 

[Malladine]

Dude tigers are solitary hunters.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
....
So upon looking at the situation, it sounds like there's no battle that takes place. The lion or tiger will ambush, charge, whatever it wants, but their primary method for killing prey is always biting the neck. Bears have such short, thick, muscular necks that you can't really incapacitate a grizzly that way. While both animals look impressive, the underlying bone density ensures that the cat's blow is absorbed by an incredibly solid bone structure of the bear, while the bear's blow effortlessly breaks the bones of the lightly-boned cat.

They'll also bite the back of the neck. Their incisors will pentrate into below the spinal column, which is then crushed/severed when they complete the bite. This is something the leopard will do more often than the others.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
....
So upon looking at the situation, it sounds like there's no battle that takes place. The lion or tiger will ambush, charge, whatever it wants, but their primary method for killing prey is always biting the neck. Bears have such short, thick, muscular necks that you can't really incapacitate a grizzly that way. While both animals look impressive, the underlying bone density ensures that the cat's blow is absorbed by an incredibly solid bone structure of the bear, while the bear's blow effortlessly breaks the bones of the lightly-boned cat.

They'll also bite the back of the neck. Their incisors will pentrate into below the spinal column, which is then crushed/severed when they complete the bite. This is something the leopard will do more often than the others.

Indeed. A favoured method (and the one seen in the video vs the Gnu) is also suffocation by biting the mouth/nose closed.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Speaking of which... what the hell preditors DOES an elephant have?

Lions or Hyenas will sometimes take down a juvenile (a very young one), but other than it's pretty much just man.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Ok, to appease promethply I've taken this fight to the next level and used competitors that he would agree with.

In one corner, coming out of retirement (extinction) we have a saber-toothed tiger. In the other corner, we have a cookie shaped like a teddy bear.

To make this fight even more fair according to Promethply's demand, the saber toothed tiger has been checked for diabetes to make sure it cannot be harmed by eating the cookie.

Update: This just in- upon further request, an additional saber-toothed tiger has been allowed to enter the ring.

Big John McCarthy will referee the fight. The cookie is not allowed to defend itself. Let the matchup begin:

To Saber-toothed tigers: "Are you ready?"
To cookie: "Are you ready?"
To both: "Let's get it on!"

Oh my, it's a stunning defeat for the cookie. Unable to defend itself, it's been eaten in less than a second. This stands as conclusive proof that a big cat can defeat a bear in battle.

bahahahahah that was hilarious :thumbsup:

 

[mrCide]

i cant believe we made it 3 pages without ANYONE mentioning Ligers! Bred for it's skills in magic.

 

[Summitdrinker]

there big and powerful, but not fighters
liger

 

[Rayden]

Originally posted by: Promethply
There's a clear division of labor in a lion's pride:

The lionesses hunts and catch their food,

while the lion protects their territory from other lions, as well as competitors from other species, especially hyenas.

The video shows this fact clearly.

The lions are industrialized!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
there big and powerful, but not fighters
liger

Only when you don't allow them to use their skills in magic.

I bet the 1985 Bears could easily take on a liger. Even if the liger used its magic and miniaturized Ditka, I'd still have to take Mini-Ditka over the liger.