linux

[CTho9305]

I hate how every distribution does stuff differently... redhat 7 sets up apache pretty well, with a standard httpd.conf, and /var/www for documents
redhat 5 is similar, but the documents go in /home/httpd
mandrake 8 is beyond me. i've found the config files, but cannot for the life of me figure out how to allow people to access the stuff in cgi-bin. /perl works fine, but I am not just using perl scripts. and the config files are split into 3. and there is this httpd-perl thing I've never heard of.

hopefully debian will do it like redhat. my only problems with redhat are 1. it's bigger than XP... and neither fit on an 850mb hard drive if you want functionality 2. rpm's are a pain

</rant>

edit: i guess my biggest issue is just that they dont all do it the way apache defaults.

 

[EHobaX]

I'm tired of RPMs too. Too many dependencies and rpmfinding. Bleah!

Gentoo as soon as I get a new box I will love you.

 

[CTho9305]

gentoo sounds interesting... but i'll give debian a shot first.

 

[Nothinman]

RedHat does it like Debian, now. Debian uses, and has used, /var/www for the static html, /usr/lib/cgi-bin for scripts, /etc/apache (although RedHat uses /etc/httpd) for the config files.

People who use Gentoo have way too much free time =)

 

[CTho9305]

<< RedHat does it like Debian, now. Debian uses, and has used, /var/www for the static html, /usr/lib/cgi-bin for scripts, /etc/apache (although RedHat uses /etc/httpd) for the config files.

People who use Gentoo have way too much free time =) >>



debian apparently didn't set up a cgi-bin when I installed apache (well, apache-perl), but i'll deal with it

why do people who use gentoo have too much free time?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

CTho9305, as for your concerns on disk space, i just did a fresh install of debian woody on my p233 last night and it took about 80MB

 

[CTho9305]

<< CTho9305, as for your concerns on disk space, i just did a fresh install of debian woody on my p233 last night and it took about 80MB >>


got you beat... my fresh install for debian last night was 75 or 77MB iirc
compeltely set up as I want: 208MB. There is certainly a little there I dont need, but all is well.

kinda annoying that cgi-bin is in /usr/lib, but i can deal. so far i'm liking it. though I did have to manually edit /etc/modules to get my network card working since i couldn't find any kudzu-like tool.

 

[Nothinman]

debian apparently didn't set up a cgi-bin when I installed apache (well, apache-perl), but i'll deal with it

I always install apache and libapache-mod-perl if I want mod_perl, maybe the apache-perl package is broken. But I just verified on my sparc I have a /usr/lib/cgi-bin dir and I know I didn't create it by hand.

why do people who use gentoo have too much free time?

Compiling everything to install it, on my old Athlon 900 it took X 20 minutes to compile, imagine throwing everything else on the system on top of that.

though I did have to manually edit /etc/modules to get my network card working since i couldn't find any kudzu-like tool.

Debian doesn't have any hardware detection, and probably never will.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< why do people who use gentoo have too much free time?

Compiling everything to install it, on my old Athlon 900 it took X 20 minutes to compile, imagine throwing everything else on the system on top of that. >>



It takes about 3 weeks. Atleast thats how long it takes me to figure out everything I want on my systems when I install. It only takes about 30min or so of compiling on my Athlon 900 (except for builds, they can take a while longer).

 

[CTho9305]

debian rocks

nothinman - i still maintain that it would rock even more if everything were in its own directory

 

[Nothinman]

'apt-get source package' and change all the packages =)

 

[CTho9305]

<< 'apt-get source package' and change all the packages =) >>


but then i would be compiling everything and hence have just as much too much time on my hands as the gentoo people

 

[Nothinman]

With all the thought you've put into this already, you seem to have too much time on your hands =)

There is a command to unpack the binary .deb and repack it, but I don't know it off hand.

 

[CTho9305]

<< With all the thought you've put into this already, you seem to have too much time on your hands =) >>



i have almost 2500 posts. is there even a question?
oh wait, you have 2500 even. bwahaha

if I could find another hard drive i would make a dnetc linux distro that has the absolute minimums for dnetc/other projects

 

[fivepesos]

i hate rpm based distros in general. maybe hate is too strong, i dislike them. i like debian (apt is a killer app), and i realy like the ports approach in freebsd. rpms are just crap imo (now official linux standard base crap).

slackware is cool cause it has no package management (tgz blah). so u get to compile everything from source (with optimizations of course).

but gentoo is realy cool cause it compiles everything from source but has scripts to automate it (quite similar to ports). give it a try, but be warned its got a steep learning curve (linux from scratch is steeper).