Link to "Marine shooting the prisoner" video...

[conjur]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Lovely little ASSumption there.

You certainly have made no delcaration otherwise. You've done the following:

1) declared him a "dumbass grunt". Wow that's real respectful and supportive of the troops
2) decared "hope he fries". In other word, executed in the electric chair. Given opportunities to defend that position, you've said nothing to the contrary.

It's quite clear. You've already tried and convicted him in your mind. Now you just want someone less cowardly than you to kill him for you.

Ah, a judge would be a coward? Interesting logic that you exhibit there.

And, I didn't think I had to clarify my statement. Anyone who thinks that I thought the Marine should be sentenced to death right now is merely looking to pick a fight with me. Bunch of e-thugs up here.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Lovely little ASSumption there.

You certainly have made no delcaration otherwise. You've done the following:

1) declared him a "dumbass grunt". Wow that's real respectful and supportive of the troops
2) decared "hope he fries". In other word, executed in the electric chair. Given opportunities to defend that position, you've said nothing to the contrary.

It's quite clear. You've already tried and convicted him in your mind. Now you just want someone less cowardly than you to kill him for you.

Sort of like Bush tried and convicted Iraq in his mind. Then sent thousands of men less cowardly than himself to kill innocent Iraqi civilians for no reason whatsoever.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

I'll gladly edit my statement when conjur changes his. Doesn't change the fact that Conjur has already convicted him in his own mind and disrespected our troops.

 

[skyking]

"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

Ignoring the fact that conjur never said anything about a trial, I think we all can agree that Conjur wishes death to this marine, no?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

So you and Alchemize admit Conjur never said without trial.

Any qualifiers you deem necessary are your own opinion and have no bearing on Conjur's original statement.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

Ignoring the fact that conjur never said anything about a trial, I think we all can agree that Conjur wishes death to this marine, no?

I can agree that Conjur wants to see him brought to justice for shooting an unarmed, wounded, defenseless man in the head at point blank range.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

You need to change that blatant misrepresentation in your sig.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

Ignoring the fact that conjur never said anything about a trial, I think we all can agree that Conjur wishes death to this marine, no?

I can agree that Conjur wants to see him brought to justice for shooting an unarmed, wounded, defenseless man in the head at point blank range.

Conjur said nothing about justice. He said "I hope he fries". Now you are just being a liar, and a "Conjur Fluffer".

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: conjur
And, I didn't think I had to clarify my statement. Anyone who thinks that I thought the Marine should be sentenced to death right now is merely looking to pick a fight with me. Bunch of e-thugs up here.

What the hell? Anyone who DOESN'T think that can't read.

Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries.

That's what you wrote. Anyone with even minimal reading/comprehension skills would read that and think that you already believe the marine to be guilty. Anyone.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

You need to change that blatant misrepresentation in your sig.

I'll change it when conjur clarifies. He's had ample opportunity. Why is it so difficult, unless that is *exactly* what he means?

Then I'll change it to Conjur wishing death on a marine.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: conjur
And, I didn't think I had to clarify my statement. Anyone who thinks that I thought the Marine should be sentenced to death right now is merely looking to pick a fight with me. Bunch of e-thugs up here.

What the hell? Anyone who DOESN'T think that can't read.

Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries.

That's what you wrote. Anyone with even minimal reading/comprehension skills would read that and think that you already believe the marine to be guilty. Anyone.

Let's go to the tape. Unarmed, wounded, defenseless man lying on floor. Marine shoots him in the head.

If I was on the jury I'd vote guilty.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

You need to change that blatant misrepresentation in your sig.

I'll change it when conjur clarifies. He's had ample opportunity. Why is it so difficult, unless that is *exactly* what he means?

Then I'll change it to Conjur wishing death on a marine.

Another blatant misrepresentation. No one is 'wishing death on a Marine'. The Marine needs to face justice for allowing himself to be judge, jury, and executioner.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

I didn't forget. I was asking whether you suggested whether spencer was not supporting our troops. Stop obfuscating. Spencer's quote is not inconsistent with supporting our troops. This is like your good teacher comment. In context it doesn't have many other meanings. Here you seem to be suggesting he was not supporting the troops. If not, it's not clear what you were saying.

:roll: are you purposely trying to be obtuse?

I noted that we don't know the full situation yet some here have tried and convicted the Marine. Spencer bleats in that the soldier won't mind if a few people assume he's guilty. You stuck your thumb somewhere.

I don't think anyone here is in a position to assume his guilt - yet here you two are playing apologist for those who are. Nice support. :roll:

CsG

How is he being obtuse? He is NOT being you. Infohawk was clear in his assessment of Spencer's comment. It is *you* that is reading way too much into it and projecting what you want Spencer's to be.

Nice try conjur but it doesn't play. YOU are the one they are playing apologist for. Yes, I am calling them on their "support" -because they are fluffing people like you who are ASSuming guilt because of your hatred of Bush, instead of taking the RATIONAL approach and waiting for more detail before condemning this action.

CsG

So, you think the guy's gun accidentally discharged a couple of times, killing an unarmed and wounded prisoner?

I suppose you think all of the abuses in Abu Ghraib were wholly justified, too.

It's mindsets like yours that are destroying the moral fabric of this nation.

The incident will be investigated and if there's grounds, he will be tried. If a crime was committed, he will be punished.

Can you the same be said for those that are beheading innocent civilians?

I believe that the general idea is that they will be hunted down and killed.

Originally posted by: alchemize

1) declared him a "dumbass grunt". Wow that's real respectful and supportive of the troops
2) decared "hope he fries". In other word, executed in the electric chair. Given opportunities to defend that position, you've said nothing to the contrary.

It's quite clear. You've already tried and convicted him in your mind. Now you just want someone less cowardly than you to kill him for you.

I believe grunt is singular, therefore only applied to the individual in question. So he is not being disrespective to the troops.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BBondLet's go to the tape. Unarmed, wounded, defenseless man lying on floor. Marine shoots him in the head.

If I was on the jury I'd vote guilty.

And if that's all there was to it, I'd agree. However, that is NOT all there was to it. You know it, I know it, and everyone else here knows it.
The terrorists are known to play dead so they can open fire on troops who get close. The marine who shot this particular terrorist was himself shot in the face the day before.
The terrorist, whether wounded or not, was moving, the marine thought he was faking, like many others have done, and he shot him.
When told he shot someone who was really wounded, the marine replied "I didn't know, I didn't know".

Read up on the whole story, THEN let a court decide.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: conjur
And, I didn't think I had to clarify my statement. Anyone who thinks that I thought the Marine should be sentenced to death right now is merely looking to pick a fight with me. Bunch of e-thugs up here.

What the hell? Anyone who DOESN'T think that can't read.

Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries.

That's what you wrote. Anyone with even minimal reading/comprehension skills would read that and think that you already believe the marine to be guilty. Anyone.

Let's go to the tape. Unarmed, wounded, defenseless man lying on floor. Marine shoots him in the head.

If I was on the jury I'd vote guilty.

Ofcourse you would.

No one knows the whole story here - all we have is a short piece of tape and then a bunch of assumptions from conclusion jumpers.

CsG

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

You need to change that blatant misrepresentation in your sig.

I'll change it when conjur clarifies. He's had ample opportunity. Why is it so difficult, unless that is *exactly* what he means?

Then I'll change it to Conjur wishing death on a marine.

Another blatant misrepresentation. No one is 'wishing death on a Marine'. The Marine needs to face justice for allowing himself to be judge, jury, and executioner.

Please define "HOPE HE FRIES" for me.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BBondAnother blatant misrepresentation. No one is 'wishing death on a Marine'. The Marine needs to face justice for allowing himself to be judge, jury, and executioner.

You need to realize that in war, things like this can happen. Sure, it may need to be investigated, but the bottom line is, once you are in a war, all the errors in judgement our guys make SHOULD go in favor or OUR guys.
Read up on the whole story and you may be a bit more understanding.

 

[BBond]

The bottom line is, our troops should never have been put in the position they are in in Iraq. Bush's unprovoked invasion was the mistake that led to all the death and destruction. Now, what exactly was the reason for all this mayhem???

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: skyking
"Fvcking dumbass grunt. Hope he fries."........ nothing in that quote implies execution without a trial. You guys are pretty desperate, when you have to stretch stuff like that to suit your purposes.
What exactly are your purposes, anyway?

I'd just like to see this guy get a fair trial, and our troops be treated respect, and not have death wished upon them. Is that too much to ask?

What exactly are YOUR purposes, anyway?

You need to change that blatant misrepresentation in your sig.

I'll change it when conjur clarifies. He's had ample opportunity. Why is it so difficult, unless that is *exactly* what he means?

Then I'll change it to Conjur wishing death on a marine.

Another blatant misrepresentation. No one is 'wishing death on a Marine'. The Marine needs to face justice for allowing himself to be judge, jury, and executioner.

Please define "HOPE HE FRIES" for me.

v. Hope: To wish for something with expectation of its fulfillment. To expect and desire.

he: The "dumbass grunt"

fries: Slang. To undergo execution in an electric chair.

Please feel free to re-interpret as your leftist mind sees fit.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Please define "HOPE HE FRIES" for me.

Yes, I'd be interested in this definition also. I'd love to see someone say this in a room full of combat vets.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Alchemize, again you are more interested in attacking forum-members then dealing with the issues.... Have you thought of OT or usenet?

I'm dealing with the issue. Conjur wants to have him executed without a trial.

Are you the little fat forum hall monitor?

Please point out the phrase where Conjur mentioned 'without trial'. I seem to have missed it.

I hope he fries does not imply without trial. It implies that he hopes he fries ultimately. But misconstruing the words of others is a neocon trait.

Heh heh. Ok, he didn't say "Without trial" but he also didn't say "I hope he fries if found guilty."

But misconstruing the words of others is...well, you get the point 😉

So you and Alchemize admit Conjur never said without trial.

Any qualifiers you deem necessary are your own opinion and have no bearing on Conjur's original statement.

So you're saying Conjur just hopes the Marine fries...

The end.

No matter what happens in the interim, Conjur's hopes will only be answered if we end up with a fried Marine.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: BBond
The bottom line is, our troops should never have been put in the position they are in in Iraq. Bush's unprovoked invasion was the mistake that led to all the death and destruction. Now, what exactly was the reason for all this mayhem???

The real bottom line is, the above statement is irrelevant to this thread, and to this incident. Whether we should be there or not is irrelevent. We are, and we have to make the best of it now.
Automatically assuming our troops are the bad guys anytime something questionable happens is wrong, period, end of story.