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lil rudeguy wants to get his first job...should I help or no?

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ketchup79 said:
How about letting him do the application thing himself, but helping him totally behind the scenes? Like others have said, it would be tough on him if this process was super hard right off the bat, but he also should know that he doesn't have to ask daddy for help all the time.
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I came to post this.

Help on the application, call the manager friend, but don't tell him you did. He doesn't need to know he got a "favor" to get in.

Or help on the application, and let it go naturally. If nothing, call the manager at that point and see what you can do to get him the job.
 
Job market for low skilled workers like Teens is really tough - so many applicants who are unemployed are willing to do these jobs now so its a lot tougher when you have no experience.

I helped my daughter fill out her application and helped her with the 90 question personality test. She got the interview, all of her friends who applied too did not.

It takes a lot of focus to fill these out correctly and grammatically correct. We used it as a teaching/learning area of what makes a good employee. We helped her dress appropriately for the interview, made sure she had her work uniform for the first day and always inquire on how things are going. We pop in from time to time at her job and chat up her supervisor and work mates.

She works at a movie theater and its a great job.

Once he has work experience n his resume it will be a lot easier to find the next job - do all you can now as this time will really help the future.
 
Holy fuck. Most jobs are won by networking not skills.

I'd sort of want my son (I will probably never have a kid) to start better than a minimum wage job.

My dad got me $6 an hour when I was not even a teen. By 16 in 1987 I was making 12.50/hr.
 
I'd say help him especially if he's not really social or is shy. It's very hard at that age to undertake the process alone. Calling, making arrangements etc... At least for the first job I say help him then he'll build up confidence over time. But he should do his own resume and all that then you can just check it for him after.
 
alkemyst said:
Holy fuck. Most jobs are won by networking not skills.

I'd sort of want my son (I will probably never have a kid) to start better than a minimum wage job.

My dad got me $6 an hour when I was not even a teen. By 16 in 1987 I was making 12.50/hr.
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What were you doing? sucking cocks?
 
Number1 said:
What were you doing? sucking cocks?
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Probably.

It's fairly standard for someone's first job to be minimum wage. You have to start somewhere. Some people like alky might get lucky and have a rich uncle or something that will pay them well to mow their lawn though. 😛
 
Red Squirrel said:
Probably.

It's fairly standard for someone's first job to be minimum wage. You have to start somewhere. Some people like alky might get lucky and have a rich uncle or something that will pay them well to mow their lawn though. 😛
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I started with a newspaper job bro with a fucking wagon. My dad saw I was a go-getter, brought me in clerical (he wasn't my boss after that).

I worked my way up.
 
DUDE...it's Toys"R"Us. How does he need help applying for the position or NETWORKING help?????? Jesus I'm pretty sure it's not that cut throat landing a customer service job or whatever there. You guys are acting like he's trying to land a job at some prestigious law firm...if your kid isn't a retard he can manage this himself.
 
Toys "R" Us is serious business.

And yeah everyone should just ignore the troll.. I'm guilty myself of feeding him, I confess. I'm done. Let's keep this on topic.
 
Something that others haven't touched on at all: Having him work retail as a first job is a great first job. Once I worked retail, I learned customer service, how to deal with assholes, and how people working retail prefer to be treated by customers. I will never work retail again (by choice), but learning those things have been valuable in every job I've held since then.

And call in the favor, discreetly. If he was anything like me at that age, he'd be pissed at the idea that he didn't do it himself.
 
I'll take the slightly more pessimistic approach, and say help only if you think he won't be a fuckup. In my life, I've helped one person get a job, and I didn't use good judgment. They turned out to be a piece of shit, and whether the employer thought it reflected on me or not doesn't matter; I think it did. If you think he'll do his best, or at least pretty well, use your connection. Otherwise, let him do it on his own.
 
lxskllr said:
I'll take the slightly more pessimistic approach, and say help only if you think he won't be a fuckup. In my life, I've helped one person get a job, and I didn't use good judgment. They turned out to be a piece of shit, and whether the employer thought it reflected on me or not doesn't matter; I think it did. If you think he'll do his best, or at least pretty well, use your connection. Otherwise, let him do it on his own.
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QFT.
 
rudeguy said:
would someone please tell alky to go suck dick in a different thread?

I'm trying to keep this on topic
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hey bro, I was the one attacked here. Don't be a retard.

This is SAGE advice. Life isn't fair, give your kid every opportunity you can.

My dad struggled in the beginning, I learned that feel, he ended up succeeding in life out of fucking eating pasta with just butter on it if he was lucky with my mom after he got back from Vietnam guarding missile bases in Seattle.

The skills he taught me became a very lucrative career in my 20s and as a part time job funded my college and first home downpayment.

I also worked two other jobs at those times (one for my major (engineering and/or pharmacy/zoology) and food delivery for a higher end chinese food place at about $100 a night I worked back in 198x)
 
Andrew111 said:
DUDE...it's Toys"R"Us. How does he need help applying for the position or NETWORKING help?????? Jesus I'm pretty sure it's not that cut throat landing a customer service job or whatever there. You guys are acting like he's trying to land a job at some prestigious law firm...if your kid isn't a retard he can manage this himself.
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Maybe it's different where you live, but in many areas, for every good part time after school job, there are quite a few kids applying for it. For the most part, it's a meaningless, low paying job, but if connections help get it, what's the harm?
 
DrPizza said:
Maybe it's different where you live, but in many areas, for every good part time after school job, there are quite a few kids applying for it. For the most part, it's a meaningless, low paying job, but if connections help get it, what's the harm?
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You and I both know how unlikely it is for a kid with zero experience to get his foot in the door. IIRC, we both used to do hiring for low level jobs like this. If I had one app for a kid with no experience and one for a with experience, guess who I was calling?

Now when one of my friends came in with their little brother, in law or anyone else needing a job I wouldn't think twice about putting them at the front of the line. A couple times I hired people just because they needed the job. My numbers and my paycheck took a hit but it was well worth it.
 
rudeguy said:
You and I both know how unlikely it is for a kid with zero experience to get his foot in the door.
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Grocery stores in our area love to hire 'newbies.' I didn't mind it either, as my first job. Those first two summers people tipped like crazy,
 
rudeguy said:
You and I both know how unlikely it is for a kid with zero experience to get his foot in the door. IIRC, we both used to do hiring for low level jobs like this. If I had one app for a kid with no experience and one for a with experience, guess who I was calling?

Now when one of my friends came in with their little brother, in law or anyone else needing a job I wouldn't think twice about putting them at the front of the line. A couple times I hired people just because they needed the job. My numbers and my paycheck took a hit but it was well worth it.
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It sounds like you have you mind made up then?
 
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