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lil rudeguy wants to get his first job...should I help or no?

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Let him do it on his own. It's a minimum wage job right? Even if he does a horrible job and doesn't get the position, he can learn from the lesson, as opposed to when daddy is pulling the strings behind his back to make sure he doesn't fall off his tricycle and scrape his knee.

And why are people suggesting that he use his connection for this job? It doesn't matter how the real world works. Would you want your son to rely on your connection for the rest of his life or to value connection over hardwork and character? He has plenty of time to learn how the real world ain't fair once he is in college. For now, you should try to instill in him some values about pulling himself up by his own jockstrap than trying to mother him.
 
Baptismbyfire said:
Let him do it on his own. It's a minimum wage job right? Even if he does a horrible job and doesn't get the position, he can learn from the lesson, as opposed to when daddy is pulling the strings behind his back to make sure he doesn't fall off his tricycle and scrape his knee.

And why are people suggesting that he use his connection for this job? It doesn't matter how the real world works. Would you want your son to rely on your connection for the rest of his life or to value connection over hardwork and character? He has plenty of time to learn how the real world ain't fair once he is in college. For now, you should try to instill in him some values about pulling himself up by his own jockstrap than trying to mother him.
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The real world works by manipulating connections. If it didn't work the way it does, we'd have a 30% unemployment rate because there's only so many McDonalds and Walmarts. I have no problem with pulling strings aside from him making me look like an asshole if he screws up. I wouldn't hesitate to use a connection if I believed in his abilities.
 
Give him a hand. Personally I'd let him know you did, and make sure he realizes it reflects poorly on you if he screws up.
 
If he needs a ride to get an application, he'll need a ride to go to work every day and then to get home. If I had a kid I'd tell him to get a job somewhere in town, unless it was a job where he'd learn a real trade skill.
 
Working contacts and connections is a huge part of the adult life. It may feel like cheating, but it's how things get done.

As a parent I would only feel bad about that if I thought I was putting him in a position where he would fail. I don't think thats the case for a first job at TRU.
 
If you can do anything to get him a non-minimum wage job, I'd do that.

I think minimum wage at the time was $3.25 and I was able to start at $6/hr. By the time I was a teenager I was up around $12.50/hr when most of my friends were lucky to be making $5-6 unless in food delivery and that was pretty limited for those 'golden hours' where you are pulling in $20-25/hr.

I did about 4 hours a day on my school days and 8 or more on my off days. I also worked delivery Thursday-Sat and sometimes Sun for 4-5 hours a night.
 
Lonyo said:
Ask him whether he wants to buy an Apple product with his earnings.
If yes, tell him he can't have a job, if no, support him.

(He's not learning the value of money if he's buying Apple)
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TRollololol your boat.

I would help him, there's nothing wrong with helping ... after all, you are just another connection for him when it comes to working 🙂
 
DrPizza said:
I'm surprised at the number of people who say "let him do it completely himself." Have you never heard of networking? Lil Rudeguy's #1 person in his network is his father. That's how much of the world works - it's not what you know, it's *who* you know. Rudeguy - if you're certain Lil Rudeguy won't let you down and will do a good job in the capacity he would be hired, there's nothing wrong with calling in a favor.
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I'm leaning towards this. If you want to go all in on teaching your son the skills required for good job growth, the whole "I'll do it myself, I don't want any favor thing" will hurt him since he won't want to network. I know everyone teaches the value of hardwork but that doesn't mean you have to do it alone.
 
Baptismbyfire said:
And why are people suggesting that he use his connection for this job? It doesn't matter how the real world works. Would you want your son to rely on your connection for the rest of his life or to value connection over hardwork and character? He has plenty of time to learn how the real world ain't fair once he is in college. For now, you should try to instill in him some values about pulling himself up by his own jockstrap than trying to mother him.
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Pulling strings gets him the job, but hard work and character are still necessary to KEEP the job and continue to make connections that will help his chances for future, better jobs.

The bootstrap thing is a myth. If hard work alone guaranteed success, every woman in Africa would be a millionaire.
 
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