Like sequester, the shutdown is the compromise, and we enjoy lower spending meanwhile

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unokitty

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DominionSeraph

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Then close the government down permanently. If Congress can't exercise it's Constitutional power to set the budget and approve spending money or refuse to spend on something, then there's no point in a representive government. We'll just let the President dictate how much we spend and send Congress home.

Sorry, but the representative government is in the Republicans not having the votes in the Senate or the Presidency to overturn the ACA. Holding everything else hostage until they get their way is not representative government, it is an attempt to overrule the representation of everyone else.

But you're a partisan hack so this is above you.
 

DominionSeraph

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And I'm sure you've been just as livid about the Democrats spending the last three years refusing to participate in that process and thereby forcing the Republicans to either pass continuing resolution after continuing resolution or else shut down the government, right?

Different thing entirely. A failure to agree on a straight-up budget places both houses at fault (with the People eventually deciding through election who has the better core philosophy as to budgetary direction.)
The Republicans know that they don't have the solid position on which to make a budgetary stand. They can sell sweeping generalizations, but when it comes to nuts-and-bolts cutting of actual programs, they don't have any ideas that are either salable to the American people or that don't contradict what put them into office. To make any significant reductions they need to cut back on Social Security and the military, and they can't do this. So they have nothing to respond to Democratic ideas except the hopes that platitudes will keep them going. So they keep caving, and keep complaining, hoping that their complaints cover up the truth that they have no ideas.
 
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trenchfoot

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To me the failure of the Repubs when they forced the shutdown to occur became glaringly obvious when the media they own and use as propaganda outlets started to minimize the effects of the shutdown, while the liberally biased news outlets began to maximize the effects. And having those liberal outlets repeating video clips of influential Tea Party Repub legislators wishing and praying for a shutdown parctically sealed the deal on who was responsible.

There's only one logical reason why these two ideologically opposed media sources would behave in the aforementioned manner.
 

OverVolt

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When two groups fundamentally disagree to such an extent for such a long period of time psychologically they tend to dig in harder and harder into their ideology. Thats what I see. Heels digging in.

Democrats and Republicans need to get drunk together.