Lifted Trucks

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you lifting it just because, or have an actual reason?

Its cheaper then getting penile implants.

I kid I kid!

Seriously though...lifted trucks are for super assholes.

really? there are some good reasons to lift your truck. this is one: higher ground clearance allows you traverse terrain that normal height trucks cannont.

And as a bonus, your chances of killing other drivers in an accident increase signifigantly.

this can be true for alot of modifications that are done to vehicles.

I don't see many lifted civics or toyota camrys that have a bumper sitting at the height of your normal sedan owners head.

maybe not, but howabout engine mods that cause the motor to create more power at the wheels? If you're gonna do it, do it right. research it, learn what the consequnces are of it. Yeah accidents happen. careful drivers don't cause accidents. I don't care if you are a ricer, in a low-rider, lifted truck, or stock vehicle. You can cause an accident in any of those vehicles just as easy as the next idiot.

many cars have more power at the wheels and it doesn't fundamenntally amke them less safe. in an accident that was gonig to happen anyways it does not affect safety as even the weakest cars can speed, and no speeding is required for an accident to happen anyways. lifting your truck affects safety of others in a very fundamental way. it makes sure you will simply crush the softest part of the other vehicle, crushing upper bodies/heads whatever. it defeats the safety/compatibility engineered into the vehicles completely. its like fitting long spikes on your hood that will spear other people in the case of an accident and claim that u can because you aren't an idiot driver like "other people" and so its really just as safe as other mods😛 lowered cars actually make themselves less safe rather than endanger others oddly enough.

so then don't drive it on the road.

 

[0roo0roo]

i don't have a problem with monster trucks and stuff for off road. just the ones used as commuter vehicles.

 

[imported_nautique]

Im talking like 2.5 to 3" lift at the most. Nothing bigger than that. Basically its just a leveling kit. No mods to suspension or leaf springs. I mean all I am doing is raising the front in to be the same height as the rear.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: nautique
Im talking like 2.5 to 3" lift at the most. Nothing bigger than that. Basically its just a leveling kit. No mods to suspension or leaf springs. I mean all I am doing is raising the front in to be the same height as the rear.

I plan on doing that on my dakota. Be warned your steering will be affected, keep this in mind.

 

[0roo0roo]

thats all it takes to screw people over. its not worth it.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
thats all it takes to screw people over. its not worth it.

you realize that a leveling kit makes the truck the same as the 4x4 version

 

[imported_nautique]

I have the 4x4 version.

 

[Tazanator]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you lifting it just because, or have an actual reason?

Its cheaper then getting penile implants.

I kid I kid!

Seriously though...lifted trucks are for super assholes.

really? there are some good reasons to lift your truck. this is one: higher ground clearance allows you traverse terrain that normal height trucks cannont.

And as a bonus, your chances of killing other drivers in an accident increase signifigantly.

this can be true for alot of modifications that are done to vehicles.

I don't see many lifted civics or toyota camrys that have a bumper sitting at the height of your normal sedan owners head.

maybe not, but howabout engine mods that cause the motor to create more power at the wheels? If you're gonna do it, do it right. research it, learn what the consequnces are of it. Yeah accidents happen. careful drivers don't cause accidents. I don't care if you are a ricer, in a low-rider, lifted truck, or stock vehicle. You can cause an accident in any of those vehicles just as easy as the next idiot.

many cars have more power at the wheels and it doesn't fundamenntally amke them less safe. in an accident that was gonig to happen anyways it does not affect safety as even the weakest cars can speed, and no speeding is required for an accident to happen anyways. lifting your truck affects safety of others in a very fundamental way. it makes sure you will simply crush the softest part of the other vehicle, crushing upper bodies/heads whatever. it defeats the safety/compatibility engineered into the vehicles completely. its like fitting long spikes on your hood that will spear other people in the case of an accident and claim that u can because you aren't an idiot driver like "other people" and so its really just as safe as other mods😛 no one thinks they are a lousy driver, its the way it is. and no one goes out looking to be in an accident. hell, much of the time it won't be your fault, someone else may start the chain reaction, most accidents the driver isn't prepared for, thats why they happen. but when it happens your raised truck is going to create unecessary carnage because of your stupid vanity.

on the other hand..lowered cars actually make themselves less safe rather than endanger others oddly enough.

when i see a raised truck i just think jackass. and much of the time the way they drive(driving over center dividers and such for illegal uturns) and tailgating/speeding just makes it more evident that they are vehicles for jackasses.

you better the hell not be religious or pro life if you drive something like that.

I call BS! lowered cars make it harder to judge where they are and disappaer faster under the hood of commercial trucks. that and the fact last week the company had a colision from a low rider bottoming out in a chicago pothole right as he was merging in front of a semi. (lucky for the tuner it was one of the texas trucks ... a lowered front bumper on the front of the Mack saved his life and most of his car... the semi pushed him out of the pothole (so much for all that custom suspension work on the left side) and slide him down and off the road on his frame and the right side tires.) lesson here is simple at 60 MPH a car stops in ~185 feet a Pickup SUV stops in ~205 feet the semi needs 667 feet. Physics dictates a semi needs to be respected.

 

[WT]

'82 Toyota owner here wth BGF Mud Terrain 33's on mine. I use it only in bad weather so its not a daily driver for .. ohhh, about the past 6 years. I bought it in '89 and its still going.

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care about where an SUV hits them when they lower their car 4 inches ??
Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: nautique
I have the 4x4 version.

then you really shouldn't need the leveling kit. also be warned, your headlights are aimed right now for its current setup, my 2000 f150 doesn't allow me to adjust them at all. if you raise the front, the lights shine up.

 

[PingSpike]

The lesson is simple. Everything is everyone else's problem.

I think I need to get some spikes to weld onto my cars hood at head level. To protect me from deer and whatnot.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: WT
'82 Toyota owner here wth BGF Mud Terrain 33's on mine. I use it only in bad weather so its not a daily driver for .. ohhh, about the past 6 years. I bought it in '89 and its still going.

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care about where an SUV hits them when they lower their car 4 inches ??
Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!

Its a good thing 100% of non lifted truck drivers are in fact, ricers with aftermarket suspension drops installed on their cars. Making your statement extremely valid.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Tazanator

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you lifting it just because, or have an actual reason?

Its cheaper then getting penile implants.

I kid I kid!

Seriously though...lifted trucks are for super assholes.

really? there are some good reasons to lift your truck. this is one: higher ground clearance allows you traverse terrain that normal height trucks cannont.

And as a bonus, your chances of killing other drivers in an accident increase signifigantly.

this can be true for alot of modifications that are done to vehicles.

I don't see many lifted civics or toyota camrys that have a bumper sitting at the height of your normal sedan owners head.

maybe not, but howabout engine mods that cause the motor to create more power at the wheels? If you're gonna do it, do it right. research it, learn what the consequnces are of it. Yeah accidents happen. careful drivers don't cause accidents. I don't care if you are a ricer, in a low-rider, lifted truck, or stock vehicle. You can cause an accident in any of those vehicles just as easy as the next idiot.

many cars have more power at the wheels and it doesn't fundamenntally amke them less safe. in an accident that was gonig to happen anyways it does not affect safety as even the weakest cars can speed, and no speeding is required for an accident to happen anyways. lifting your truck affects safety of others in a very fundamental way. it makes sure you will simply crush the softest part of the other vehicle, crushing upper bodies/heads whatever. it defeats the safety/compatibility engineered into the vehicles completely. its like fitting long spikes on your hood that will spear other people in the case of an accident and claim that u can because you aren't an idiot driver like "other people" and so its really just as safe as other mods😛 no one thinks they are a lousy driver, its the way it is. and no one goes out looking to be in an accident. hell, much of the time it won't be your fault, someone else may start the chain reaction, most accidents the driver isn't prepared for, thats why they happen. but when it happens your raised truck is going to create unecessary carnage because of your stupid vanity.

on the other hand..lowered cars actually make themselves less safe rather than endanger others oddly enough.

when i see a raised truck i just think jackass. and much of the time the way they drive(driving over center dividers and such for illegal uturns) and tailgating/speeding just makes it more evident that they are vehicles for jackasses.

you better the hell not be religious or pro life if you drive something like that.

I call BS! lowered cars make it harder to judge where they are and disappaer faster under the hood of commercial trucks. that and the fact last week the company had a colision from a low rider bottoming out in a chicago pothole right as he was merging in front of a semi. (lucky for the tuner it was one of the texas trucks ... a lowered front bumper on the front of the Mack saved his life and most of his car... the semi pushed him out of the pothole (so much for all that custom suspension work on the left side) and slide him down and off the road on his frame and the right side tires.) lesson here is simple at 60 MPH a car stops in ~185 feet a Pickup SUV stops in ~205 feet the semi needs 667 feet. Physics dictates a semi needs to be respected.

you see, you have to dig pretty deep to find something dangerous about a ricer. and in that case it was reckless driving, and not exactly endangering the life of the semi in a very direct way. no matter how tall the wing, its not gonna decapitate that semi driver😉 the point is when a ricer hits another NORMAL vehicle..it will suffer more.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: WT
'82 Toyota owner here wth BGF Mud Terrain 33's on mine. I use it only in bad weather so its not a daily driver for .. ohhh, about the past 6 years. I bought it in '89 and its still going.

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care about where an SUV hits them when they lower their car 4 inches ??
Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!

Its a good thing 100% of non lifted truck drivers are in fact, ricers with aftermarket suspension drops installed on their cars. Making your statement extremely valid.

hello? are you that dense? a lowered car is level with an SUV that is stock height! No need for lift kits to smash that thing into pieces.

And his statement: "Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!" was him trying to be funny.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Tazanator

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Are you lifting it just because, or have an actual reason?

Its cheaper then getting penile implants.

I kid I kid!

Seriously though...lifted trucks are for super assholes.

really? there are some good reasons to lift your truck. this is one: higher ground clearance allows you traverse terrain that normal height trucks cannont.

And as a bonus, your chances of killing other drivers in an accident increase signifigantly.

this can be true for alot of modifications that are done to vehicles.

I don't see many lifted civics or toyota camrys that have a bumper sitting at the height of your normal sedan owners head.

maybe not, but howabout engine mods that cause the motor to create more power at the wheels? If you're gonna do it, do it right. research it, learn what the consequnces are of it. Yeah accidents happen. careful drivers don't cause accidents. I don't care if you are a ricer, in a low-rider, lifted truck, or stock vehicle. You can cause an accident in any of those vehicles just as easy as the next idiot.

many cars have more power at the wheels and it doesn't fundamenntally amke them less safe. in an accident that was gonig to happen anyways it does not affect safety as even the weakest cars can speed, and no speeding is required for an accident to happen anyways. lifting your truck affects safety of others in a very fundamental way. it makes sure you will simply crush the softest part of the other vehicle, crushing upper bodies/heads whatever. it defeats the safety/compatibility engineered into the vehicles completely. its like fitting long spikes on your hood that will spear other people in the case of an accident and claim that u can because you aren't an idiot driver like "other people" and so its really just as safe as other mods😛 no one thinks they are a lousy driver, its the way it is. and no one goes out looking to be in an accident. hell, much of the time it won't be your fault, someone else may start the chain reaction, most accidents the driver isn't prepared for, thats why they happen. but when it happens your raised truck is going to create unecessary carnage because of your stupid vanity.

on the other hand..lowered cars actually make themselves less safe rather than endanger others oddly enough.

when i see a raised truck i just think jackass. and much of the time the way they drive(driving over center dividers and such for illegal uturns) and tailgating/speeding just makes it more evident that they are vehicles for jackasses.

you better the hell not be religious or pro life if you drive something like that.

I call BS! lowered cars make it harder to judge where they are and disappaer faster under the hood of commercial trucks. that and the fact last week the company had a colision from a low rider bottoming out in a chicago pothole right as he was merging in front of a semi. (lucky for the tuner it was one of the texas trucks ... a lowered front bumper on the front of the Mack saved his life and most of his car... the semi pushed him out of the pothole (so much for all that custom suspension work on the left side) and slide him down and off the road on his frame and the right side tires.) lesson here is simple at 60 MPH a car stops in ~185 feet a Pickup SUV stops in ~205 feet the semi needs 667 feet. Physics dictates a semi needs to be respected.

you see, you have to dig pretty deep to find something dangerous about a ricer. and in that case it was reckless driving, and not exactly endangering the life of the semi in a very direct way. no matter how tall the wing, its not gonna decapitate that semi driver😉 the point is when a ricer hits another NORMAL vehicle..it will suffer more.

aye, and when that ricer hits a non-normal vehicle, ie: a lifted truck, it suffers even more

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: WT
'82 Toyota owner here wth BGF Mud Terrain 33's on mine. I use it only in bad weather so its not a daily driver for .. ohhh, about the past 6 years. I bought it in '89 and its still going.

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care about where an SUV hits them when they lower their car 4 inches ??
Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!

Its a good thing 100% of non lifted truck drivers are in fact, ricers with aftermarket suspension drops installed on their cars. Making your statement extremely valid.

hello? are you that dense? a lowered car is level with an SUV that is stock height! No need for lift kits to smash that thing into pieces.

And his statement: "Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!" was him trying to be funny.

No, his point was this: lifted trucks are more dangerous for other drivers, while riced-out, turbo-charged and lowered civics are more dangerous for their own drivers. I believe that was the distinction he was trying to make.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: WT
'82 Toyota owner here wth BGF Mud Terrain 33's on mine. I use it only in bad weather so its not a daily driver for .. ohhh, about the past 6 years. I bought it in '89 and its still going.

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care about where an SUV hits them when they lower their car 4 inches ??
Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!

Its a good thing 100% of non lifted truck drivers are in fact, ricers with aftermarket suspension drops installed on their cars. Making your statement extremely valid.

hello? are you that dense? a lowered car is level with an SUV that is stock height! No need for lift kits to smash that thing into pieces.

And his statement: "Ricer racer: Hmmmm, that suspension drop should get the other vehicle's bumper right about level with my head !! Sweeet !!!" was him trying to be funny.

Hello? Are you that dense?

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicle in an accident, you think the ricers really care...

As far as it being dangerous to the other vehicles...it doesn't matter because they're all ricers. Thats pretty much the meat of the post.

There's a big difference between modifying your car in a way that endangers yourself in an accident and modifying your car in a way that endangers others. So the ricer got killed. He knew the risks, or should have. I guess we should all install lift kits on our cars, because we all knew the risks of being hit by a vehicle that was lifted in such a way that it bypasses standard collisions and thwarts your vehicles safety design, which was foolishly based on the standard height of vehicles bumpers, not modified ones.

And what are you arguing about exactly anyway...you already said earlier on that you shouldn't drive them on roads, a tacit admission that lifted vehicles aren't actually safe for other drivers.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
And what are you arguing about exactly anyway...you already said earlier on that you shouldn't drive them on roads, a tacit admission that lifted vehicles aren't actually safe for other drivers.

There are many options for driving lifted vehicles. one is not driving them on the road. I was putting that option out there. Yes they are unsafe. SUVs are unsafe. Ricers are unsafe. hell most of the time I watch traffic and I'm thinking, "WTF? I actually drive amongst those idiots?"

 

[MikeMike]

ok ill ignore every other post.

Downsides: the tires wear out pretty fast on the highway when you go to that size, as they are typically just made for Off roading.
Handling: it will suck, your CoG will raise higher and more likely to tip
more strain on transmission, as it will have more to turn
Speedo will be off.

more unsprung mass.

Advantages:
better off road capabilities.

other than that not many.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike
And what are you arguing about exactly anyway...you already said earlier on that you shouldn't drive them on roads, a tacit admission that lifted vehicles aren't actually safe for other drivers.

There are many options for driving lifted vehicles. one is not driving them on the road. I was putting that option out there. Yes they are unsafe. SUVs are unsafe. Ricers are unsafe. hell most of the time I watch traffic and I'm thinking, "WTF? I actually drive amongst those idiots?"

True, but the point here is still that ricers are unsafe to the driver of the riced out vehicle, while lifted trucks are unsafe for everyone except the lifted truck driver. SUVs can be bad, but even they adhere to safety guidelines and standard bumper heights. Lifted trucks break those same guidelines at the expense of other drivers.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: PingSpike
And what are you arguing about exactly anyway...you already said earlier on that you shouldn't drive them on roads, a tacit admission that lifted vehicles aren't actually safe for other drivers.

There are many options for driving lifted vehicles. one is not driving them on the road. I was putting that option out there. Yes they are unsafe. SUVs are unsafe. Ricers are unsafe. hell most of the time I watch traffic and I'm thinking, "WTF? I actually drive amongst those idiots?"

True, but the point here is still that ricers are unsafe to the driver of the riced out vehicle, while lifted trucks are unsafe for everyone except the lifted truck driver. SUVs can be bad, but even they adhere to safety guidelines and standard bumper heights. Lifted trucks break those same guidelines at the expense of other drivers.

yup, and take into account the suv/truck guidelines are probably way too lax to begin with.

 

[arcenite]

Go ahead and do it. Ignore what these clowns say.

 

[iamwiz82]

My DD has 35" tires and is SWB, making it even more fun 😛

And for the record it's bumper is taller than the hood of our other car. 😀

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
ok ill ignore every other post.

Downsides: the tires wear out pretty fast on the highway when you go to that size, as they are typically just made for Off roading.
Handling: it will suck, your CoG will raise higher and more likely to tip
more strain on transmission, as it will have more to turn
Speedo will be off.

more unsprung mass.

Advantages:
better off road capabilities.

other than that not many.

Handling really depends on the kit you buy. You buy a cheap one and it's going to ride and handle like garbage, but if you spend the money on a quality kit, you will be good to go.

Get your speedo recaibrated either way.

I've never heard of anyone having a transmission fail because it's lifted and I know lots of people.

BTW, get BFG Mud terrains if you want a long lasting tire. I got 50,000 miles out of my last set.

 

[alembic5]

You need a lift for 33's? I put 31's on my Ranger without a lift and had no rubbing. And let's face it, a 2-3" lift wouldn't make much difference at all, so long as you got a quality kit and a quality install. The good ones shouldn't be overly detrimental to on-road performance, but the cheap ones can really mess it up. I've had a couple of friends with high quality 2" kits that gave them just enough to fit on some bigger tires, and they rode almost like stock. Road noise will be almost entirely dictated by your tire tread design, so do your research! I had BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO's, and I loved them. They were considerably better than the stock Goodyears in on-road performance, particularly with wet roads. The mud terrains that my friend had on his rig were considerably louder on the freeway, so beware of that if noise is a concern. Do it right, and don't drive like a jackass. You'll be fine, and so will others. Just don't be one of those toolboxes that get super swamper boggers on their commuter rigs because they look cool! 🙂