Life in prison for DUI

[Texashiker]

Lady sentenced to life in prison for driving under the influence

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xth-DUI-charge-just-release-jail-offense.html

She has a record of DUIs dating back to the 1990s.

Texas, hell yea. Get her off the streets before she kills someone.

 

[corwin]

Took too long...

Davidson had just been released from prison after her fifth DUI charge when she was arrested last year.

Sixth times the charm

 

[Theb]

Well she's dedicated, I'll give her that.

 

[nehalem256]

Just execute her.

The woman shows a clear disregard for the well-being of others. The only rational argument against the death penalty, that the supposed guilty person might actually be innocent, doesn't really apply in the case of 6 DUIs. Why should the tax-payer be forced to support her worthless ass. Take her out back behind the court house and end the menace.

 

[drebo]

First time should be 30 days in jail and loss of license for a year. Second time should be 90 days in jail and loss of license forever. Third time should be life in prison.

Driving without a license (or with a suspended license) should follow a similar progression.

We are far too lenient with our criminals in this country.

 

[Wreckem]

Well that should lock her up for 15 years.

 

[Lithium381]

First time should be 30 days in jail and loss of license for a year. Second time should be 90 days in jail and loss of license forever. Third time should be life in prison.

Driving without a license (or with a suspended license) should follow a similar progression.

We are far too lenient with our criminals in this country.

Be carefuk who you declare a criminal. Most if not all of us a criminals. Legislators could make everyone a felon overnight with the stroke of a pen.

 

[drebo]

Be carefuk who you declare a criminal. Most if not all of us a criminals. Legislators could make everyone a felon overnight with the stroke of a pen.

True, but that's why we have things like the second amendment.

 

[exdeath]

Be carefuk who you declare a criminal. Most if not all of us a criminals. Legislators could make everyone a felon overnight with the stroke of a pen.

This. Always this.

That's why I use the term douchebags or assholes instead of criminals. You know, people who prey on other people for the fun of it. This is who government and law exists precisely to deal with.

A criminal can be anybody who is simply doing something private that 51% of the public doesn't approve of at some particular point in time. Not good enough.

I know someone at work who got a DUI for like .002 over or something absolutely retarded. He was pulled over speeding in a empty construction zone at night. Yeah able to drive high speed while dodging obstacles with precision, so intoxicated and such a threat to everyone.

It was obvious they just wanted someone easy to make an example out of.

 

[exdeath]

True, but that's why we have things like the second amendment.

And this is exactly why Prohibition failed when politics no longer worked and is exactly why we need to fight for the second amendment with every last breath.

PS not defending drinking and driving, just the idea of preemptive zero tolerance legislation that can be abused to harass and create "victim-less crimes".

 

[Fern]

That's ridiculous.

I can't see a life sentence. Heck, actually killing someone gets you much less time in many states. There should be another solution. She's just a burden on taxpayers now.

Fern

 

[brycejones]

First time should be 30 days in jail and loss of license for a year. Second time should be 90 days in jail and loss of license forever. Third time should be life in prison.

Driving without a license (or with a suspended license) should follow a similar progression.

We are far too lenient with our criminals in this country.

Locking more people up for longer periods of time only gets you more spending. Ask California how their 3 strikes law is working out for them. Your post seems to be heavily focused on punishment and not on actually doing things to reduce recidivism. Someone with 3 DUIs has a drinking problem that seriously needs to be addressed putting them in prison forever is a waste.

 

[UglyCasanova]

That's ridiculous.

I can't see a life sentence. Heck, actually killing someone gets you much less time in many states. There should be another solution. She's just a burden on taxpayers now.

Fern

Agreed. Even if she killed someone I doubt she would get life, and I can't imagine the amount of money this is now going to take to keep her locked up for life.

That said, I've never understood the sentencing guidelines in this country. I hear news reports all of the time about people being convicted for essentially the same thing getting radically different sentences. One person might get 8 years for negligent homicide while another gets life.

 

[BoberFett]

Six DUI arrests?

Pfffft, amateur.

http://www.startribune.com/local/82522237.html

 

[Gintaras]

Lady sentenced to life in prison for driving under the influence

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xth-DUI-charge-just-release-jail-offense.html

She has a record of DUIs dating back to the 1990s.

Texas, hell yea. Get her off the streets before she kills someone.

Driving under influence?

It's way easier to drive when drunk that to drive and to type texts...

DWT - Driving While Texting - way worse than DUI....


Cell phones does screw people way more than alcohol...

 

[alkemyst]

Lady sentenced to life in prison for driving under the influence

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xth-DUI-charge-just-release-jail-offense.html

She has a record of DUIs dating back to the 1990s.

Texas, hell yea. Get her off the streets before she kills someone.

DUI laws are a bit extreme, I don't buy into the .08 rules (and neither does the founder of MADD/SADD).

However; when you have been busted 6 times in 17 years that's a bit over the top.

That said has she ever hurt anyone? What have been her BAC/BAL levels?

IMHO DUI is a problem that is really a money maker and not about saving lives.

There are about 1.2 million arrests per year and only 12,000 DUI deaths (most are the driver). However; 1/3 are repeat offenders so that says a lot.

We are arresting over a million people for accidents they will never cause and people they will never harm.

First time DUIs without injury / property damage are not even looked at by most insurance companies.

The average DUI costs a citizen about $5000 without legal representation. Many will lose their jobs over the 30-90 day license suspension.

It's really all revenue.

 

[michal1980]

outside of that being comepletely f'd up. why does it cost 30 grand to lock someone up

 

[alkemyst]

outside of that being comepletely f'd up. why does it cost 30 grand to lock someone up

Bleeding hearts making prisons too nice.

I thinking it's Maricopa, AZ where the warden makes his prisoners all live in tents, where pink underwear and only PB&J is for the meals. You don't get a college degree, you don't get a weight room, you get road patrol.

 

[Oldgamer]

Lady sentenced to life in prison for driving under the influence

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xth-DUI-charge-just-release-jail-offense.html

She has a record of DUIs dating back to the 1990s.

Texas, hell yea. Get her off the streets before she kills someone.

Holy crap what the hell took them so long? Christ almighty..

 

[Lithium381]

True, but that's why we have things like the second amendment.

Which is almost worthless with judicial activism and the 538 people in washington who decide how and in what manner you can defend yourself.

Think about what laws actually are. Laws are either an incentive to do something, or a disincentive to do something. Laws are based on the 'morality' of those in power and the majority voters, assuming it's up to a vote.

 

[werepossum]

Six DUI arrests?

Pfffft, amateur.

http://www.startribune.com/local/82522237.html

Back in my little home town my wife was in court (as a paralegal) when one of the lawyers was pleading his client to his eleventh (if memory serves) first offense DUI. In Tennessee the progression is fairly strict, third offense is lifetime loss of license plus five years prison if I remember correctly, but that means little if judges allow people to plead to first offense DUI over and over.

In Chattanooga we had a doctor who was arrested for DUI in an accident. They pulled him over the next day or so, drunk, and took his car. A bit after that he was arrested in his wife's car, so they took that. A bit later he was arrested while trying to rent a car. Some people are slow learners.

 

[Doppel]

First time should be 30 days in jail and loss of license for a year. Second time should be 90 days in jail and loss of license forever. Third time should be life in prison.

Driving without a license (or with a suspended license) should follow a similar progression.

We are far too lenient with our criminals in this country.

I am not quite at your levels of it, but yeah I think DUI punishments are already far too lenient. I'd say first time is seven days in prison, which will be enough to scare straight most people.

Life in prison on third DUI is probably over the top, but on 6th this woman clearly doesn't give ANY FUCK about anybody else. And if she does, she can't control it, so let prison control it. And obviously this doesn't meant she has driven drunk 6 times, but rather been caught 6 times. I'm sure she does it constantly, so screw her.

 

[Attic]

You don't want to wait for her to hurt someone (one of your loved ones) until something is done.

But life in prison is definitely the wrong solution to a problem like this.

DUI's are mostly a money making racket, but putting someone away for life as a message to others is disgusting abuse of power.

Regardless, if she had the right last name or the right sized bank account i'm sure she'd have zero DUI's for the exact same behavior and driving habits she engages in.

When laws are selectively applied, consequences are negotiable, and thus rendered moot as a postive moral force. Focusing on this woman is exciting, but stupid, the real problem is the monsters who get away with actually HARMING others.

Had a big wig at a local university run over and kill two pedestrians while he was drunk driving. All conveniently worked out rather well for him, no jail time, no arrest made. Sizable donations from the University to the local law enforcement were certainly not related to his treatment in this case.

 

[Doppel]

Locking more people up for longer periods of time only gets you more spending. Ask California how their 3 strikes law is working out for them. Your post seems to be heavily focused on punishment and not on actually doing things to reduce recidivism. Someone with 3 DUIs has a drinking problem that seriously needs to be addressed putting them in prison forever is a waste.

How does society fix a drinking problem for her? Ankle bracelet that detects alcohol? Something like that might work. I'd rather take people like her off the street than people smoking weed in their back yard. In my mind she is a risk to the public just like a violent criminal is. Alcohol is used in a huge proportion of car wrecks.

 

[alkemyst]

Back in my little home town my wife was in court (as a paralegal) when one of the lawyers was pleading his client to his eleventh (if memory serves) first offense DUI. In Tennessee the progression is fairly strict, third offense is lifetime loss of license plus five years prison if I remember correctly, but that means little if judges allow people to plead to first offense DUI over and over.

In Chattanooga we had a doctor who was arrested for DUI in an accident. They pulled him over the next day or so, drunk, and took his car. A bit after that he was arrested in his wife's car, so they took that. A bit later he was arrested while trying to rent a car. Some people are slow learners.

I was arrested for DUI in my parking spot...my ex knew the cop that arrested me. She had him waiting. I told her I was moving out the next day.

In my classes, they have you write "how much has DUI cost you?"

There was one attorney from NYC that now resided in FL. He was a criminal defender that made too many police look like idiots. They arrested him in his driveway washing his new Corvette. They confiscated it based on the keys were in his pocket.

His DUI had cost him $150k and he wasn't done defending it. It was just one of his cars. The guy was a multi-millionaire, had a limo bring him to each class.