Life in prison for DUI

[BoberFett]

Plenty of repeated DUI offenders drive without a license. The illegal who hit my brother-in-law and his family (luckily, they were not seriously harmed, but still pretty bruised) had already lost his license due to FIVE prior DUIs, but was still on the road, driving drunk. This was in Virginia.

Damn, I thought letting illegals get licensed solved these problems...


:hmm:

 

[piasabird]

Drunks kill people.

We should ban all alcoholic beverages that will solve the problem!

If it wont work for alcohol it probably will not work for guns either.

 

[Mursilis]

Damn, I thought letting illegals get licensed solved these problems...


:hmm:

Actually, I don't think he was ever licensed, being an illegal, now that I've had coffee and I can think reasonably straight. My whoops.

 

[momeNt]

So if I shoot a gun at you, but miss, I shouldn't be charged with a crime?

If you take a gun and shoot a wall I think you have a more reasonable analogy.

Shooting at someone causes a lot of distress.

Weaving on an empty road vs weaving and running a car off the road.

 

[nehalem256]

If you take a gun and shoot a wall I think you have a more reasonable analogy.

Shooting at someone causes a lot of distress.

Weaving on an empty road vs weaving and running a car off the road.

So someone weaving down the road doesn't cause distress to other drivers?

So it is acceptable to just randomly discharge firearms assuming I am not target someone in particular?

 

[Mursilis]

Shooting at someone causes a lot of distress.

That assumes they knew they were being targeted. Some potential victims never knew they were the target of murderers.

 

[momeNt]

So someone weaving down the road doesn't cause distress to other drivers?

So it is acceptable to just randomly discharge firearms assuming I am not target someone in particular?

Empty road.

If she was running people off the road that is harm.

If she makes a driver swerve is that harm punishable by life imprisonment? Do you find that equitable?

 

[nehalem256]

Empty road.

Road wasn't empty. Obviously the cop was there

If she was running people off the road that is harm.

If she makes a driver swerve is that harm punishable by life imprisonment? Do you find that equitable?

So if I setup a gun target in my backyard such that if I miss bullets will travel into my neighbors yard.

Should this be legal assuming I am only shooting during school hours so I won't accidentally shoot their kids(empty road drunk driving as it were)?

Now lets say the kids get off early one day and come outside to play during my shooting time and a bullet whizzes by one of them and they run inside crying (analogous to say have to swerve to avoid a drunk driver).

So they call the police on me and arrest me for stupidly endangering children. And since its the first time the judge gives my a stern lecture and a $1000 fine.

So then the next month the same thing happens...

And then again and again and again and again...

At what point does it become apparent that I have no regard for the safety of others and will refuse to change my behavior no matter the consequences?

Should my obvious reckless behavior be tolerated until I put it a bullet in a kid?

 

[JTsyo]

This. Always this.

That's why I use the term douchebags or assholes instead of criminals. You know, people who prey on other people for the fun of it. This is who government and law exists precisely to deal with.

A criminal can be anybody who is simply doing something private that 51% of the public doesn't approve of at some particular point in time. Not good enough.

I know someone at work who got a DUI for like .002 over or something absolutely retarded. He was pulled over speeding in a empty construction zone at night. Yeah able to drive high speed while dodging obstacles with precision, so intoxicated and such a threat to everyone.

It was obvious they just wanted someone easy to make an example out of.

Actually speeding while there are obstacles shows poor decision making, maybe due to drinking. Alcohol hits decision making before motor skills.

 

[momeNt]

Road wasn't empty. Obviously the cop was there



So if I setup a gun target in my backyard such that if I miss bullets will travel into my neighbors yard.

Should this be legal assuming I am only shooting during school hours so I won't accidentally shoot their kids(empty road drunk driving as it were)?

Now lets say the kids get off early one day and come outside to play during my shooting time and a bullet whizzes by one of them and they run inside crying (analogous to say have to swerve to avoid a drunk driver).

So they call the police on me and arrest me for stupidly endangering children. And since its the first time the judge gives my a stern lecture and a $1000 fine.

So then the next month the same thing happens...

And then again and again and again and again...

At what point does it become apparent that I have no regard for the safety of others and will refuse to change my behavior no matter the consequences?

Should my obvious reckless behavior be tolerated until I put it a bullet in a kid?

Maybe you're right. Perhaps 6 was too high. Should be one and done. After all, they could have killed somebody?

Why aren't all cars equipped with breath checks? Driving drunk can kill somebody. If you don't support that are you supporting that people have the right to drink and drive?

 

[hal2kilo]

First time should be 30 days in jail and loss of license for a year. Second time should be 90 days in jail and loss of license forever. Third time should be life in prison.

Driving without a license (or with a suspended license) should follow a similar progression.

We are far too lenient with our criminals in this country.

Yea, that's why our prisons are so empty.
I bet none of you would reccommend the same thing for texting and driving.

Get off your moral high horse folks!

 

[nehalem256]

Maybe you're right. Perhaps 6 was too high. Should be one and done. After all, they could have killed somebody?

That would seem to be completely the opposite of what I am saying.

People can make mistakes. They are then given the opportunity to learn from them.

However, clearly this woman is incapable of learning from her mistakes.

Why aren't all cars equipped with breath checks? Driving drunk can kill somebody. If you don't support that are you supporting that people have the right to drink and drive?

Because then you are infringing on the freedom of people who act responsibly. And imposing costs on them for the stupidity of others.