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HamburgerBoy

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I'm just pointing a historical fact, the most murderous people tend to be white & often christian for that matter. Given the gist of abrahamic religions, they also considered themselves the good guys fighting evil, and good guys don't sent their own to prison.

Arabs, Persians, etc are white too, just so you know. I think it would be pretty hard to determine a single-most murderous ethnic group or race, especially if you don't control for world population. E.g., I believe Genghis Khan killed a higher percentage of the world's population than anyone else, especially if we look at just war/murder rather than the collateral damage of starvation and mismanagement. Some might still consider Mao worse just because the actual death count in raw lives may have been a little higher. (Neither of those guys are white btw.)
 

agent00f

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Arabs, Persians, etc are white too, just so you know. I think it would be pretty hard to determine a single-most murderous ethnic group or race, especially if you don't control for world population. E.g., I believe Genghis Khan killed a higher percentage of the world's population than anyone else, especially if we look at just war/murder rather than the collateral damage of starvation and mismanagement. Some might still consider Mao worse just because the actual death count in raw lives may have been a little higher. (Neither of those guys are white btw.)

Pretty sure the folks in question here don't consider arabs/muslims white, and the numbers are rather clear in every way no matter the pedantics, even more so if we're looking at relevant history (eg clear lineage to the presently living). Also it's rather contradictory to "look at just war/murder rather than the collateral damage of starvation and mismanagement", then point to the opposite in the very next sentence.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Pretty sure the folks in question here don't consider arabs/muslims white, and the numbers are rather clear in every way no matter the pedantics, even more so if we're looking at relevant history (eg clear lineage to the presently living). Also it's rather contradictory to "look at just war/murder rather than the collateral damage of starvation and mismanagement", then point to the opposite in the very next sentence.

I'm not contradicting myself, I'm saying that unless you define your criteria more clearly, "the most murderous people tend to be white" is unsupported. I don't know what you mean by "clear lineage to the presently living" either. Current day China has a clear lineage to Mao, and more people died under him than under Hitler.
 

agent00f

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I'm not contradicting myself, I'm saying that unless you define your criteria more clearly, "the most murderous people tend to be white" is unsupported. I don't know what you mean by "clear lineage to the presently living" either. Current day China has a clear lineage to Mao, and more people died under him than under Hitler.

The aggregate numbers are so lopsided that it doesn't really matter how the criteria is set. Also, people dead from inadvertent bad policy is not really the same as slavery/war/genocide etc.
 

ivwshane

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This sentiment is almost Stockholm-syndrome worthy. Hard to fault... the person at fault? One of the biggest mass-murders on US soil? All those peple in NYC just had it coming huh?

That's batshit.

What's actually batshit is how you took his post and turned it into the above garbage.
 

shady28

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Arabs, Persians, etc are white too, just so you know. ...

Finally a speck of reality. The entire problem with these comparisons, and most of the ones being spouted here, is that they are based on coincidental / unrelated factors.

"Muslims" is not a race, period. Neither is "Christian".

Race has nothing to do with a discussion about whether Muslims should be allowed into the country.

Persia is actually considered to be the "home" of the white race(s).
 

agent00f

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Finally a speck of reality. The entire problem with these comparisons, and most of the ones being spouted here, is that they are based on coincidental / unrelated factors.

"Muslims" is not a race, period. Neither is "Christian".

Race has nothing to do with a discussion about whether Muslims should be allowed into the country.

Persia is actually considered to be the "home" of the white race(s).

This is a good example of what racists these days tell themselves as they go on about them mexicans and muslims. I aint racist cus mexico aint no race.

Some advice for everyone's benefit, if you're not racist try to avoid the same language that they use, because saying the same things then denying afterwards is at the very least confusing for all involved.
 

shady28

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This is a good example of what racists these days tell themselves as they go on about them mexicans and muslims. I aint racist cus mexico aint no race.

Some advice for everyone's benefit, if you're not racist try to avoid the same language that they use, because saying the same things then denying afterwards is at the very least confusing for all involved.


This is an perfect example of how liberals push false narratives to divide people along racial lines, on topics where racial lines don't exist. It fits their political leanings because they need race to always be a factor in order to remain relevant.

Posts like agent00f's "Disliking people for their cultural / moral beliefs is racist, because muslims is a race" is a great example. Thanks for that example.

Keep letting dipshits like agent00f keep telling you that these Persians are not white :

Darya_Dadvar.jpg



Googoosh_Malaysia_2009.jpg


800px-Faramarz_Aslani_Persian_singer_in_a_concert_in_Canada_2013.jpg
 

agent00f

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This is an perfect example of how liberals push false narratives to divide people along racial lines, on topics where racial lines don't exist. It fits their political leanings because they need race to always be a factor in order to remain relevant.

Posts like agent00f's "Disliking people for their cultural / moral beliefs is racist, because muslims is a race" is a great example. Thanks for that example.

Keep letting dipshits like agent00f keep telling you that these Persians are not white :

I don't think you understand the point here. Blatant racists who can't bring themselves to admitting it for obvious reasons created that rationalization. Thus if you use that same rationalization, possibly because you read the same blogs/material, people might justifiably think you're them. Therefore, someone who might not want to be confused for a racist would do well to stop imitating one all the time.

Who are these white folks?

The ones who talk about mexicans & muslims the same way they talk(ed) about the blacks before that became social taboo.
 

shady28

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I don't think you understand the point here. Blatant racists who can't bring themselves to admitting it for obvious reasons created that rationalization. ....

I think I made my point very clearly, you simply continue to push your lefty race-based narrative where everything is about race - even when it obviously, demonstrably, isn't.

You're also counting on no one reading this thread, because if they do, they'll find that I challenged a post where someone said blacks + hispanics kill way more than muslims. I then stated that was a false equivalency that smacked of racism, and here is your racist lefty ass trying to re-write and project a false narrative.

It's you who is the bigoted racist.
 

Starbuck1975

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I don't think you understand the point here. Blatant racists who can't bring themselves to admitting it for obvious reasons created that rationalization. Thus if you use that same rationalization, possibly because you read the same blogs/material, people might justifiably think you're them. Therefore, someone who might not want to be confused for a racist would do well to stop imitating one all the time.

The ones who talk about mexicans & muslims the same way they talk(ed) about the blacks before that became social taboo.
You have legitimate grievances against white supremists, but you will gain little sympathy by making gross generalizations about "white folks".
 

agent00f

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You created that rationalization? :)

No, your friends who write these rationalizations on their blogs did, as evidenced by their readers who parrot them here.

I think I made my point very clearly, you simply continue to push your lefty race-based narrative where everything is about race - even when it obviously, demonstrably, isn't.

You're also counting on no one reading this thread, because if they do, they'll find that I challenged a post where someone said blacks + hispanics kill way more than muslims. I then stated that was a false equivalency that smacked of racism, and here is your racist lefty ass trying to re-write and project a false narrative.

It's you who is the bigoted racist.

It's simply a matter of fact that dishonest racists who wish to hide it use a predicable set of rationalizations to justify their beliefs, eg ethnic-friend, X is not race, etc. If that doesn't describe you, then it's best to distance yourself from instead of standing even more steadfastly with them.

You have legitimate grievances against white supremists, but you will gain little sympathy by making gross generalizations about "white folks".

You might have noticed that white nationalists these days try pretty hard to explain away their racial animosity, even when just about every study on the matter shows just how prevalent & decisive it is. It's not a coincidence that Trump has a near lock on the older white male vote, with just about every minority group & such on the other side of the issue.
 

zinfamous

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One thing is certain: Texastickler hates these so-called "liberals" far more than he hates those radical evil muslim terrists. He hates fellow US citizens so much, that he frequently posts threads relishing in their deaths and injuries when it allows him to gleefully score some imaginary points on his personal political scoreboard.

Any American injury and death is a good one for Texastugger so long as it allows him to claim "rightness" about his heartless, ignorant beliefs--while tugging safely and happily in his backwater, unimportant, meth-riddled homestead that no respectaible human would proudly call home, much less declare relevant enough to attack.
 

HamburgerBoy

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The aggregate numbers are so lopsided that it doesn't really matter how the criteria is set. Also, people dead from inadvertent bad policy is not really the same as slavery/war/genocide etc.

Please provide the numbers then.

Finally a speck of reality. The entire problem with these comparisons, and most of the ones being spouted here, is that they are based on coincidental / unrelated factors.

"Muslims" is not a race, period. Neither is "Christian".

Race has nothing to do with a discussion about whether Muslims should be allowed into the country.

Persia is actually considered to be the "home" of the white race(s).

What makes you so sure that they're coincidental? Persia was one of the oldest and most advanced civilizations, frequently rivaling the Greeks in terms of scientific advancement. Even through the many ups and downs of that culture, they're one of the more developed and less genocidal Muslim nations in the Middle-East. We've done more to destabilize Iran than probably any other Muslim country yet somehow they don't have nearly the violent record that Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc do. It's not a race thing in terms of it being literally about skin color, hair texture, etc, obviously, but culture and ethnicity/nationality are deeply intertwined. For example, female genital mutilation is often thought of as a Muslim thing, and it is very common in many Muslim countries, but in addition many neighboring Christian nations practice it too. It's more accurate to describe as a North African and Arab thing than as a Muslim thing. Likewise, when we talk about violence and Islam, we can consider the effect of religion itself, but we also need to consider how it differs among practitioners of said religion according to geography. Whether you want to call it racial or cultural, it provides a more complete picture of the problem. And that still neglects that the West has not treated all Muslim nations equally and that some have more of a right to be pissed than others.
 
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MrSquished

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This is an perfect example of how liberals push false narratives to divide people along racial lines, on topics where racial lines don't exist. It fits their political leanings because they need race to always be a factor in order to remain relevant.

Posts like agent00f's "Disliking people for their cultural / moral beliefs is racist, because muslims is a race" is a great example. Thanks for that example.

Keep letting dipshits like agent00f keep telling you that these Persians are not white :

Darya_Dadvar.jpg



Googoosh_Malaysia_2009.jpg


800px-Faramarz_Aslani_Persian_singer_in_a_concert_in_Canada_2013.jpg

Currently people of middle-eastern descent are currently considered White by the census bureau although some check the box 'Other Race'. Middle Eastern and North African folks aka MENA are currently trying to create a new option for the census. Middle easterners vary from fairly light to quite dark and they probably deserve their own category but it's a tall order to get the Census Bureau to pivot and adjust, though they are considering it. Shit I am from Cyprus and when I get tan I look arabic. When I was in Morocco nice and tan a lot of the locals thought I was one of their brothers.
 

Roflmouth

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No, your friends who write these rationalizations on their blogs did, as evidenced by their readers who parrot them here.

Which blogs, and how do you know they're my friends? Are your hallucinations getting worse?

It's simply a matter of fact that dishonest racists who wish to hide it use a predicable set of rationalizations to justify their beliefs, eg ethnic-friend, X is not race, etc. If that doesn't describe you, then it's best to distance yourself from instead of standing even more steadfastly with them.

Nobody cares enough about you to reconsider where they should "stand," but thanks for the advice anyway :)

You might have noticed that white nationalists these days try pretty hard to explain away their racial animosity, even when just about every study on the matter shows just how prevalent & decisive it is.

Which studies are those, liar?
 

agent00f

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Please provide the numbers then.

Just google for wars & such in the last century or two.

Which blogs, and how do you know they're my friends? Are your hallucinations getting worse?

The ones where you read about trump's last triumph with his african american, which are choke full of interesting beliefs about other ethnicities. You seem to relate & identify with them, so it's only natural to assume you're on friendly terms.

Nobody cares enough about you to reconsider where they should "stand," but thanks for the advice anyway :)

It's simply matter of fact that saying much the same things as racists doesn't look good. Though to be fair you very well might disagree here.

Which studies are those, liar?

Speaking of lying, they're the ones linked from the other thread you were in, eg: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/hillary-faints-ground-zero.2485902/page-35#post-38477345.
 

Starbuck1975

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No, your friends who write these rationalizations on their blogs did, as evidenced by their readers who parrot them here.



It's simply a matter of fact that dishonest racists who wish to hide it use a predicable set of rationalizations to justify their beliefs, eg ethnic-friend, X is not race, etc. If that doesn't describe you, then it's best to distance yourself from instead of standing even more steadfastly with them.



You might have noticed that white nationalists these days try pretty hard to explain away their racial animosity, even when just about every study on the matter shows just how prevalent & decisive it is. It's not a coincidence that Trump has a near lock on the older white male vote, with just about every minority group & such on the other side of the issue.
Where are these studies. You're making broad sweeping statements with no facts and data to back up anything you are saying. You sound a lot like Trump.
 

Svnla

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Speaking of lying, they're the ones linked from the other thread you were in, eg: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/hillary-faints-ground-zero.2485902/page-35#post-38477345.

Ahhh, look at the lying newbie, still butt hurting from all the facts and logic beating from me so many time from last time so now he is trying to lie again.

If you do NOT know the difference between calling a subgroup of a group that behave badly and true racist statements such as hating someone just simply because of the color of their skin/creed/race/etc. then you are even more dumb than I realize.

Since you love to search old posts, how about post just a single old post from me that I was critical of any minority JUST SIMPLY because of their race/color/creed/ethic. when they did nothing wrong.

Go ahead, LIAR.

Bitch with a lying mouth is still a bitch.


To the readers, this lying newbie is trying so hard to spin, he did not mention the title of the thread that he quoted ONLY a part of. The tittle of the thread was
Marine attacked, wife punched after telling teens to be quiet during "Little Fockers"

That's right. A Marine and his wife was gang up and attacked by a bunch of criminals yet this lying bitch is trying so hard to spin and try to imply that I called ALL minorities with bad names simply because of the color of their skin and NOT because of their OWN CRIMINAL behavior.

You have been asked privately to tone down your over the top attacks, as they stand out as excessive and offensive, even in P&N. You must do so.

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agent00f

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Where are these studies. You're making broad sweeping statements with no facts and data to back up anything you are saying. You sound a lot like Trump.

roflmouth & svnla can tell you where they are. btw, svnla is a good example of someone who habitually calls black people chimps and the chinese cockroaches and I'm sure various other things for other ethnicities, then denies any racism. Don't know about you but personally I don't believe him.
 

Svnla

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roflmouth & svnla can tell you where they are. btw, svnla is a good example of someone who habitually calls black people chimps and the chinese cockroaches and I'm sure various other things for other ethnicities, then denies any racism. Don't know about you but personally I don't believe him.

Well, I know where to find links and sources from right and left wing sources to bitch slap you so many times before so keep on butt hurting. :D

Correction. I called a subgroup of a group out because of their OWN CRIMINAL behavior toward a Marine and his wife but keep lying for the simple minded idiots like you. Keep lying because anyone with 1/2 brain would able to scroll up and read the rest of the thread and the tittle of the thread.

I need new boots from all of your spin and bullcrap. Look like more and more members are begin to see the real you..the LIAR!!!!