Liberalism. Holding down standards in the name of diversity

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As somebody who was placed in GATE in 2nd grade, I think it's ludicrous to separate kids based on a few test scores. You end up telling everybody in the class "These are the smart kids, the special kids, the talented kids. The rest of you, well, we hope for the best but we're not holding our breath".

As if students can't get re-evaluated mid-year and placed into higher classes if they over/under achieved. happened all the time when I was in grade school.
 

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I'm also fairly sure that the teacher doesn't trot out those who've been selected for gifted classes near the end of the first day of kindergarten, have them stand up in the gym in front of the entire student body, and say "These are our new crop of gifteds. By this, you can safely infer that the rest of the newly arrived kindergarteners are a bunch of morons and forever shall be. Make sure to bow your head as you pass these bright young luminaries in the hallway."

I'm guessing they're very discrete about how they select kids, inform them, and transition them to the gifted classes.
 
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Yeh, and in a system of limited resources, conservatives want to advantage the advantaged even more.

Smarter? You get even more advantages with gifted programs!

if you have a gifted child, wouldn't you want to provide him the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind? like curing cancer?
or do you want everyone to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator?
 

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if you have a gifted child, wouldn't you want to provide him the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind? like curing cancer?
or do you want everyone to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator?

Everyone wants to provide their child with "the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind."
You are telling some parents their kindergarten age kids are not "gifted" enough to deserve that.
 
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Everyone wants to provide their child with "the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind."
You are telling some parents their kindergarten age kids are not "gifted" enough to deserve that.

yes.
 

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if you have a gifted child, wouldn't you want to provide him the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind? like curing cancer?
or do you want everyone to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator?


He's a racist, what do you want?
 

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if you have a gifted child, wouldn't you want to provide him the best possible environment to maximize his gifts, in hopes that he could use it to someday benefit mankind? like curing cancer?
or do you want everyone to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator?

Nice Strawman! We've had several in this thread. Nice to see you doing something predictable, joining in.

Perhaps the most remarkable thing about all this is the ease with which people confuse advantaged with gifted at the kindergarten level.

Children who have been taught & tutored prior to entering school will appear to be more gifted than those who haven't, particularly at age 5.

How the Hell can such evaluations be made with children so young? If they can read a little, do some basic math & present themselves well, who's to say that's nature rather than nurture?