Liberal Tolerance is a Total Fallacy

[Doc Savage Fan]

This tells us nothing, sadly. It does not objectively differentiate how disgusting conservatives are to have to listen too compared to liberals nor does it take into account how much conservatives are there to annoy other people and don't tune out because they want to bathe in the reactions they cause and thus need to read them.

I'm sorry to hear that Moonie. I have hope that someday you'll find conservatives a little less disgusting and annoying.

 

[Wreckem]

If you want to silence a piont of view, you are intolerant of that view. Claiming to be tolerant while being intolerant is stupid.

Being intolerant of bigots is not the same thing as a homophobe bigot being intolerant towards a gay person. You need to get your head checked if you cannot see that.

 

[shadow9d9]

The idea of a "liberal" presence in US politics is a total fallacy.

Not agreeing with off the cliff right wingers does not make someone "liberal."

 

[nehalem256]

Being intolerant of bigots is not the same thing as a homophobe bigot being intolerant towards a gay person. You need to get your head checked if you cannot see that.

But saying someone that doesnt want to redefine marriage to suit you is bigot and a homophobe is intolerant.

The idea of a "liberal" presence in US politics is a total fallacy.

Not agreeing with off the cliff right wingers does not make someone "liberal."

Well considering that we now have to consider people on their 3rd wife "conservative" I think it is fair to call Democrats liberal.

 

[cybrsage]

Being intolerant of bigots is not the same thing as a homophobe bigot being intolerant towards a gay person. You need to get your head checked if you cannot see that.

Being wet from grape juice is not the same thing as being wet from orange juice, but you are still wet.

Being intolerant does not mean you are tolerant. Does not work that way. If you think being intolerant means you are tolderant, you need to get your head checked.

 

[Abraxas]

Here's an interesting study comparing liberal/moderate/conservative political tolerance conducted by Pew Research.
http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/...ngs/Social-networking-sites-and-politics.aspx



When compared to moderates and conservatives..."Liberal tolerance" appears to be quite the oxymoron.

Is there a point buried somewhere in there? Maybe conservatives have a greater propensity for spamming the hell out of their Facebook pages with nonsense about the gay agenda, socialist conspiracies, and Obama being a secret Muslim Kenyan.

 

[cybrsage]

When you lack substance, you certainly bring the funny.

...you *always* bring the funny.

You even don't get that we are laughing at you after being directly told!

 

[Jhhnn]

This is a textbook example of a straw man argument.

Step 1: Invent a position that's easy to argue against and ascribe it to your opponents -- the more generic the position and the more widely you can ascribe it the better. In this case: "liberals claim to be 'tolerant' so that means they have to accept what anyone says or does without taking any action".

Step 2: Find an example of your target group violating the position that you just invented and ascribed to them.

Step 3: Mock and/or deride them for not living up to the position that you created and assigned.

It's a strategy that works well for the less discerning.

PS There's nothing wrong with being intolerant of intolerance.

That really should have ended another craptacular thread, but noooo.... our resident ravers just carry on as if that were never said...

 

[etrigan420]

You even don't get that we are laughing at you after being directly told!

what?

 

[cybrsage]

what?

Well played...I mean it, I did laugh.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Being wet from grape juice is not the same thing as being wet from orange juice, but you are still wet.

Being intolerant does not mean you are tolerant. Does not work that way. If you think being intolerant means you are tolderant, you need to get your head checked.

Ever tried washing out grape juice?

 

[LumbergTech]

This thread is very telling.

Every fucking post you make is very telling. Mr. Jesus, you sure love to troll.

 

[monovillage]

Every fucking post you make is very telling. Mr. Jesus, you sure love to troll.

Thanks for proving the OP topic once again. It should be obvious to everyone just how accurate it was.

 

[LumbergTech]

Thanks for proving the OP topic once again. It should be obvious to everyone just how accurate it was.

Carry on with your little circle jerk here where you pretend to have a point.

You guys bitch about things you don't like just as much as anyone else. Are you trying to pretend that you don't? This is a forum. People can read your posts the next day..and the next day..

Yes, sometimes people get frustrated with pseudo intellectual Kirk Cameron wannabes.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yes, sometimes people get frustrated with pseudo intellectual Kirk Cameron wannabes.

Seriously, you know these people are sitting in their daddy's mansion regurgitating the bullshit their old man forces down their throat all day.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm sorry to hear that Moonie. I have hope that someday you'll find conservatives a little less disgusting and annoying.

I didn't say I find conservatives disgusting. I said that no account in the experiment was taken to measure the degree to which liberals may find conservatives disgusting and put them on ignore for that reason. If you note, conservatives are impossible to reach with rational arguments. This annoys the fuck out of a lot of liberals. I don't share that feeling. I see them as disgusting to the extent they hide their feelings of self disgust from themselves and project it onto others. It's kind of an evil thing to do using ordinary parlance. But they can't help it so you can't hold them in contempt for being disgusting. It is a fact that they are because it's what they feel. I never put anybody on ignore, ever. Every person is perfect. It would be nice to know it though.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thanks for proving the OP topic once again. It should be obvious to everyone just how accurate it was.

Can you see, why after 50 million dead, the Germans outlawed the Nazi party?

 

[LumbergTech]

Can you see, why after 50 million dead, the Germans outlawed the Nazi party?

Thought police!!!!!

 

[nehalem256]

Can you see, why after 50 million dead, the Germans outlawed the Nazi party?

To look good to the rest of the world?

 

[theeedude]

So a bigot who wants to deny others an opportunity to live their lives how they see fit is offended when others deny him an opportunity to shop where he wants. Tough.

 

[jackstar7]

It depends on whether you are more concerened about your soul or people you do not know.

Pssst. You don't have soul.



Also, removing context from bigotry is a surefire way to display your intellectual dishonesty.

 

[monovillage]

Seriously, you know these people are sitting in their daddy's mansion regurgitating the bullshit their old man forces down their throat all day.

Again, just more proof of the accuracy of the OP.

 

[umbrella39]

The idea of a "liberal" presence in US politics is a total fallacy.

Not agreeing with off the cliff right wingers does not make someone "liberal."

No... it makes them a traitor to some of the knobs posting here.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nice post outlining boomer's MO.

I'm intolerant of your intolerance!

The heart of the matter is that people are rarely able to put themselves into the position of the other and try to imagine what's going through their head. They also tend to apply their own moral sense and judge others by that. Well that's how things work. The problem is when rejecting a line of thought manifests itself by limiting the legitimate expression of theirs. That does not mean acceptance, nor is freedom of expression unlimited, but wherever possible it should be allowed. When one's sensibilities calls for a silencing of others then that is intolerance of intolerance. A letter written by Voltaire contains this line. "I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write". I like that thinking much better than conform or be cast out.

 

[Moonbeam]

Again, just more proof of the accuracy of the OP.

And you're not going to tolerate it, like the Germans?