Liberal men least happy

[Daverino]

Or who disregard 2 Thessalonians:


I don't think I could come up with a more damning indictment of liberalism. Straight from the New Testament.

No, not from the Bible. That quote is from 'The Message' which is not a translation of the Bible.

The verse from the Good News translation is:

6 Our friends, we command you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to keep away from all believers who are living a lazy life and who do not follow the instructions that we gave them. 7 You yourselves know very well that you should do just what we did. We were not lazy when we were with you. 8 We did not accept anyone's support without paying for it. Instead, we worked and toiled; we kept working day and night so as not to be an expense to any of you. 9 We did this, not because we do not have the right to demand our support; we did it to be an example for you to follow. 10 While we were with you, we used to tell you, “Whoever refuses to work is not allowed to eat.”

11 We say this because we hear that there are some people among you who live lazy lives and who do nothing except meddle in other people's business. 12 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ we command these people and warn them to lead orderly lives and work to earn their own living.

13 But you, friends, must not become tired of doing good. 14 It may be that some there will not obey the message we send you in this letter. If so, take note of them and have nothing to do with them, so that they will be ashamed. 15 But do not treat them as enemies; instead, warn them as believers.

That is the word of Paul the Epistle, not Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus said:

Matthew: 25

35 I was hungry and you fed me, thirsty and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger and you received me in your homes, 36 naked and you clothed me; I was sick and you took care of me, in prison and you visited me.’ 37 The righteous will then answer him, ‘When, Lord, did we ever see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you a drink? 38 When did we ever see you a stranger and welcome you in our homes, or naked and clothe you? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?’ 40 The King will reply, ‘I tell you, whenever you did this for one of the least important of these followers of mine, you did it for me!’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Away from me, you that are under God's curse! Away to the eternal fire which has been prepared for the Devil and his angels! 42 I was hungry but you would not feed me, thirsty but you would not give me a drink; 43 I was a stranger but you would not welcome me in your homes, naked but you would not clothe me; I was sick and in prison but you would not take care of me.’ 44 Then they will answer him, ‘When, Lord, did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and we would not help you?’ 45 The King will reply, ‘I tell you, whenever you refused to help one of these least important ones, you refused to help me.’ 46 These, then, will be sent off to eternal punishment, but the righteous will go to eternal life.”

What you do for the least of us you do for God.

 

[Daverino]

here, fixed that for ya davey

You are under the mistaken impression that I'm a fan of abortion.

 

[row]

Yeah women's right as long as these rights are decided by
"worthies" such as yourselves based on fictional books right?

Disgusting pile of social conservative trash.

actully have no idea what you're talking about, but boy, liberal debate team material

an embryo in most cases, occasionally a fetus,
but almost never a baby.

"baby" as in a living being professor

So you are against abortion for any reason?
No exception for rape? incest? genetic issues? life of the mother?

there are exceptions to most every rule. those you've sited are responsible for less that 2% of all abortions, so the other 98% are simply the 21st century condom

 

[nehalem256]

No, not from the Bible. That quote is from 'The Message' which is not a translation of the Bible.

The verse from the Good News translation is:


That is the word of Paul the Epistle, not Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus said:

Matthew: 25


What you do for the least of us you do for God.

The Second Epistle of Paul to the Thessalonians, often referred to as Second Thessalonians and written 2 Thessalonians, is a book from the New Testament of the Christian Bible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_to_the_Thessalonians

Its from the bible. Sorry if you don't like it.

 

[row]

You are under the mistaken impression that I'm a fan of abortion.

no Daverino, no impression one way or the other, just saw an important point left out and corrected it.

 

[lotus503]

aactully have no idea what you're talking about, but boy, liberal debate team material



"baby" as in a living being professor



there are exceptions to most every rule. those you've sited are responsible for less that 2% of all abortions, so the other 98% are simply the 21st century condom

I don't consider an embryo or fetus a baby. I don't consider a group of cells that cannot survive without a host a baby. Goods news for me the the majority of our society agrees with me and disagrees with you, I suspect that's the root of your anger.

If your truly interested in stemming abortions you should get together with your conservative buddies and hand out condoms.

 

[nehalem256]

I don't consider an embryo or fetus a baby. I don't consider a group of cells that cannot survive without a host a baby. Goods news for me the the majority of our society agrees with me and disagrees with you, I suspect that's the root of your anger.

If your truly interested in stemming abortions you should get together with your conservative buddies and hand out condoms.

:hmm:

Also, even liberals consider a fetus to be a baby. At least when it comes to handing out the government benefits for it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

there are exceptions to most every rule. those you've sited are responsible for less that 2% of all abortions, so the other 98% are simply the 21st century condom

A) got some citations to back up those figures?

B) You didn't answer the question so I'll repeat it:

So you are against abortion for any reason?
No exception for rape? incest? genetic issues? life of the mother?

 

[lotus503]

:hmm:

Also, even liberals consider a fetus to be a baby. At least when it comes to handing out the government benefits for it.

My poll is newer than your poll. we all have a poll. Its also doesn't account for the percentage of people that identify as both, pro life for themselves but pro choice for people in general.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...events/abortion/46_are_pro_choice_43_pro_life

 

[row]

A) got some citations to back up those figures?

B) You didn't answer the question so I'll repeat it:

So you are against abortion for any reason?
No exception for rape? incest? genetic issues? life of the mother?

my very first sentence answered b), comprehension issues? with regards to a) look it up yourself

 

[Daverino]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_to_the_Thessalonians

Its from the bible. Sorry if you don't like it.

You cherry picked one (very bad) interpretation of the New Testament. It's not a translation, but a novelization of the Bible.

Second Thessalonians certainly exists, and I posted a more widely accepted transliteration of it. AND, it is the word of Paul. It is not the word of Jesus. It seems you do not understand the difference between the Gospel and the Epistles.

 

[lotus503]

my very first sentence answered b), comprehension issues? with regards to a) look it up yourself

Actually i went and reread it, it didn't answer it.

Drivel without data is drivel, you want to state numbers with no supportive data, then you will be totally dismissed as you should be.

 

[nehalem256]

My poll is newer than your poll. we all have a poll. Its also doesn't account for the percentage of people that identify as both, pro life for themselves but pro choice for people in general.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...events/abortion/46_are_pro_choice_43_pro_life

Seems like its pretty much a dead heat. Considering the disagreement of polls as well as the likely margin of error.

 

[lotus503]

Seems like its pretty much a dead heat. Considering the disagreement of polls as well as the likely margin of error.

Yeah its close, however until such time that Pro Lifers have a plan in place to deal with all of the non aborted, I think were likely to have favorable pro chocie laws.

Its interesting confliction of position, on the one hand every fetus should be born, on the other no plan to actually deal with the influx in humans other than cutting welfare, and reversing Obamacare.

 

[row]

Actually i went and reread it, it didn't answer it.

the question asked, in effect, are there exceptions (to abortion) my answer was there are exceptions to most every rule. not too sure what part of that you fail to understand. public education?

Drivel without data is drivel, you want to state numbers with no supportive data, then you will be totally dismissed as you should be

typical leftist, i'm not about to do your homework for you. google it and you'll find thousands of responses with the same answer. the one i gave you.

Yeah its close, however until such time that Pro Lifers have a plan in place to deal with all of the non aborted, I think were likely to have favorable pro chocie laws.....

hahaha, it's called "not getting pregnant". in this day and age it is the most simple of all procedures, you and your idiot friends should read up on it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

my very first sentence answered b), comprehension issues? with regards to a) look it up yourself

A) You provided the alleged statistics so it's up to you to prove them true. Don't provide the proof then I guess we can only conclude that you pulled them out of thin air.

B) no, you have not answered the question. Lets try one more time.

Are you against abortion for any reason?
No exception for rape? incest? genetic issues? life of the mother?

The answer is either yes or no. Now, please answer the question.

 

[lotus503]

the question asked, in effect, are there exceptions (to abortion) my answer was there are exceptions to most every rule. not too sure what part of that you fail to understand. public education?

He didn't he asked for specifics you are unwilling to provide.



typical leftist, i'm not about to do your homework for you. google it and you'll find thousands of responses with the same answer. the one i gave you.

You don't know how this works, you make a claim and provide supportive evidence for the claim. for the purpose of this discussion Ill just call you a liar and full of shit.


hahaha, it's called "not getting pregnant". in this day and age it is the most simple of all procedures, you and your idiot friends should read up on it.

Its called reality you should try and live in it some time.

 

[row]

A) You provided the alleged statistics so it's up to you to prove them true. Don't provide the proof then I guess we can only conclude that you pulled them out of thin air.

B) no, you have not answered the question. Lets try one more time.

Are you against abortion for any reason?
No exception for rape? incest? genetic issues? life of the mother?

The answer is either yes or no. Now, please answer the question.

let me answer your question thusly.

with regards to your entry into the world, i believe it would have been a good choice. it must be difficult with your life being the result of incestuious rape with the resultant genetic issues, but maybe they thought you would turn out differently? although at this point they cannot redo the mistake they made, you my friend could rectify the situation by sticking your head in a pile of canadian moose shit and suffocating yourself.

does that help clarify my stance?

...You don't know how this works, you make a claim and provide supportive evidence for the claim...

that lotus shit must have gone to your head home boy. "this works" exactly as i deem it to. you have mommy issues with it, get therapy, or have your buttbuddy moonbeam turn you on to a dose of his lithium to help ease your pain.

 

[lotus503]

let me answer your question thusly.

with regards to your entry into the world, i believe it would have been a good choice. it must be difficult with your life being the result of incestuious rape with the resultant genetic issues, but maybe they thought you would turn out differently? although at this point they cannot redo the mistake they made, you my friend could rectify the situation by sticking your head in a pile of canadian moose shit and suffocating yourself.

does that help clarify my stance?




that lotus shit must have gone to your head home boy. "this works" exactly as i deem it to. you have mommy issues with it, get therapy, or have your buttbuddy moonbeam turn you on to a dose of his lithium.

Sure I get it you're a troll without the ability to actually have a meaningful discussion, carry on and enjoy, I prefer to seek out adults for adult conversation.

 

[row]

I prefer to seek out adults for adult conversation.

if you ever grow up it may happen

 

[lotus503]

if you ever grow up it may happen

No its would still require you to provide data vs insults, something you are incapable of. 33 posts and all I have seen is insult laden drivel and dodging direct questions.

You seem to be here to stroke your own e-peen vs legit discussion on issues. which is fine many more like you doing that already.

 

[Victorian Gray]

let me answer your question thusly.

with regards to your entry into the world, i believe it would have been a good choice. it must be difficult with your life being the result of incestuious rape with the resultant genetic issues, but maybe they thought you would turn out differently? although at this point they cannot redo the mistake they made, you my friend could rectify the situation by sticking your head in a pile of canadian moose shit and suffocating yourself.

does that help clarify my stance?

Let's make it easy for you.

Are you against all abortion with absolutely no exception?

 

[UberNeuman]

\every-time I try to get out, you fuckers keep pulling me back in....

 

[umbrella39]

actually not odd at all

1) they don't have to listen to your dumb ass

2) they don't have to put up with berrie and his buttbuddies policies

Fears No All You Can Eat Buffet is back? Same shit, differEBT.

 

[UberNeuman]

Fears No All You Can Eat Buffet is back? Same shit, differEBT.

You don't find "they don't have to put up with berrie and his buttbuddies policies" a compelling argument?