Liberal men least happy

[fskimospy]

That is basically perfect. It never ceases to amaze me how much the 'self reliant' conservatives cry about how oppressed they are.

 

[umbrella39]

You don't find "they don't have to put up with berrie and his buttbuddies policies" a compelling argument?

Hell yes I do... I have already just now purchased an old AM only radio on Amazon that will be here by noon tomorrow for some good old fashioned afternoon reprogramming...

 

[Chaotic42]

Or who disregard 2 Thessalonians:


I don't think I could come up with a more damning indictment of liberalism. Straight from the New Testament.

What translation is that from? Here's the King James Version:

1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:
2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.
3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.
5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
8 Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
16 Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all.
17 The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.
18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

 

[shadow9d9]

Conservatives live in a land of fantasy, so it would make sense that they would be happier. People who believe in magic(religion) are happier too. In other words, if you are stupid enough to be able to believe in make believe, it is easier than having to deal with the harsh realities of live.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

How do you turn a man from a liberal to a conservative? You pay him 100 grand a year. Liberal men tend to be poorer and want more wealth equality/sharing. Since they aren't getting it they are unhappy.

This. Liberal men are not unhappy because they're Liberals. They're Liberals because they're unhappy.

 

[Atreus21]

Imagine that.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/opinion/sunday/a-formula-for-happiness.html?_r=1



Them again based on threads and posts in here it's quite obvious that this is the case.

I find the more I get involved in political debates, the more unhappy I get. The amount of time I waste here and in other places, when I could be using this time productively and for real benefit to myself and my family which are vastly more important, is depressing.

My opinion: Liberals are more involved in politics in general, and are thus less happy.

Politics is cynicism, filth, pettiness, and hatred. Yet it's difficult to resist.

 

[Atreus21]

Conservatives live in a land of fantasy, so it would make sense that they would be happier. People who believe in magic(religion) are happier too. In other words, if you are stupid enough to be able to believe in make believe, it is easier than having to deal with the harsh realities of live.

This might be true. But it's also contradictory.

If there is no God or ultimate purpose to the universe, then adhering to truth and tough-mindedness doesn't matter. You may as well maximize happiness.

 

[kage69]

\every-time I try to get out, you fuckers keep pulling me back in....

lol, well done

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

\every-time I try to get out, you fuckers keep pulling me back in....

Might want to learn to count - there is nothing but butt-hurt liberals dominating the post majority here. Conservatives are basking in the glowing warmth of truth :biggrin:

 

[lotus503]

Might want to learn to count - there is nothing but butt-hurt liberals dominating the post majority here. Conservatives are basking in the glowing warmth of truth :biggrin:

Count doesn't count, content counts.

Row single handedly ruined the thread for conservatives with his piss and vinegar.

 

[fskimospy]

I just can't wait until the next thread happens where some study says something bad about conservatives. All the people 'basking in the glowing warmth of truth' will be falling all over themselves to declare that this kind of science is bullshit.

 

[shadow9d9]

This might be true. But it's also contradictory.

If there is no God or ultimate purpose to the universe, then adhering to truth and tough-mindedness doesn't matter. You may as well maximize happiness.

There is nothing at all contradictory. I can't delude myself into believing fantasy, no matter how much I may like to.

 

[kage69]

I find the more I get involved in political debates, the more unhappy I get. The amount of time I waste here and in other places, when I could be using this time productively and for real benefit to myself and my family which are vastly more important, is depressing.

My opinion: Liberals are more involved in politics in general, and are thus less happy.

Politics is cynicism, filth, pettiness, and hatred. Yet it's difficult to resist.

Are you serious? Interesting.

Funny how liberals have been maligned for years as being too apathetic, busy or lazy to even show up and vote, but their really more involved in politics than the well organized, more homogenous conservative side that blends politics into almost everything?

Heheh. I think you guys are projecting again. If talk radio were dominated by liberals, I'd agree with you. If the hard right and hard left people I know were to exchange temperaments, I'd also agree with you. The OP's story bears little to no accuracy given my experience. I've met angry liberals, sure, but they are usually the exception, not the rule. If anything, I find their outlooks a little too positive and I usually despise people who do nothing but vomit sunshine and happiness no matter the situation. Behavior I've never seen from self proclaimed conservatives. They are usually too busy giving themselves ulcers, high blood pressure and hemorrhoids over something idiotic like Obama telling kids education is important and to stay in school (for example).

 

[hal2kilo]

Conservatives live in a land of fantasy, so it would make sense that they would be happier. People who believe in magic(religion) are happier too. In other words, if you are stupid enough to be able to believe in make believe, it is easier than having to deal with the harsh realities of live.

Bingo! See my sig.

 

[Vic]

Gee, you mean constantly whining about everything, pretending you're oppressed, hating everyone else because they won't bend over and give you the fruits of their time/labor/effort, having rabid envy of the successful, worship of useless politicians who endlessly promise but never deliver, etc. isn't the key to a happy, fulfilled life?

No! Really?

Your description here sounds like every Tea Partier that I know.

Despite all the heated rhetoric, liberals and conservatives in the US are almost ideologically identical. Their differences are usually trivial and more about being on the other team than anything of any genuine substance, which is why there is so much name calling.
Case in point, the author of the article cites work as a key to happiness (something I agree with wholeheartedly), but then uses the example of his own liberals' wet dream of a professional life (youth as a musician, then back to school for graduate studies, then a professorship, finally settling down to scholarly work) to explain why conservatives self - report as happier on some survey.
You just can't make this stuff up.

 

[Atreus21]

There is nothing at all contradictory. I can't delude myself into believing fantasy, no matter how much I may like to.

Pondering the meaning of life doesn't require a belief in fantasy. It requires natural curiosity.

If you arrive at the conclusion that there is no ultimate meaning to life because the universe is fundamentally purposeless, then the only rational conclusion is to maximize happiness.

 

[fskimospy]

Pondering the meaning of life doesn't require a belief in fantasy. It requires natural curiosity.

If you arrive at the conclusion that there is no ultimate meaning to life because the universe is fundamentally purposeless, then the only rational conclusion is to maximize happiness.

This is true! From my experience those who are religious tend to be a bit happier than those who are not. From a purely rational perspective I wish I could be religious as it seems to be good for you in a general sense, unfortunately my brain just isn't wired that way. Can't make yourself believe.

 

[Atreus21]

Are you serious? Interesting.

Funny how liberals have been maligned for years as being too apathetic, busy or lazy to even show up and vote, but their really more involved in politics than the well organized, more homogenous conservative side that blends politics into almost everything?

Heheh. I think you guys are projecting again. If talk radio were dominated by liberals, I'd agree with you. If the hard right and hard left people I know were to exchange temperaments, I'd also agree with you. The OP's story bears little to no accuracy given my experience. I've met angry liberals, sure, but they are usually the exception, not the rule. If anything, I find their outlooks a little too positive and I usually despise people who do nothing but vomit sunshine and happiness no matter the situation. Behavior I've never seen from self proclaimed conservatives. They are usually too busy giving themselves ulcers, high blood pressure and hemorrhoids over something idiotic like Obama telling kids education is important and to stay in school (for example).

It's common for people to see their opposition as more mobilized, calculating, and organized. I'm sure conservatives see liberals as organized much the same way liberals see conservatives.

What I meant by "more involved in politics" was that I think liberals are more inclined to get involved in the war of ideas. More likely to engage in political debates. That's my opinion based on my impressions. I don't know that it's actually true.

 

[shadow9d9]

Pondering the meaning of life doesn't require a belief in fantasy. It requires natural curiosity.

If you arrive at the conclusion that there is no ultimate meaning to life because the universe is fundamentally purposeless, then the only rational conclusion is to maximize happiness.

The "meaning of life" is ridiculously vague.

How does finding value in life in any way relate to the 1000s of magical beings that humans have concocted?

 

[Atreus21]

This is true! From my experience those who are religious tend to be a bit happier than those who are not. From a purely rational perspective I wish I could be religious as it seems to be good for you in a general sense, unfortunately my brain just isn't wired that way. Can't make yourself believe.

I suffer from the opposite malady. My brain believes in God. But my heart remains unmotivated. I'm hoping this will pass, as it did with Lewis and Chesterton. I'm good at defending, not worshiping.

 

[Retro Rob]

This is true! From my experience those who are religious tend to be a bit happier than those who are not. From a purely rational perspective I wish I could be religious as it seems to be good for you in a general sense, unfortunately my brain just isn't wired that way. Can't make yourself believe.

Belief isn't for everyone.

 

[Vic]

I think there is a tremendous difference between being religious and being spiritual.
For example, the anti social side of me doesn't much care for the "we all believe exactly the same thing" aspect of religion.
While on the other hand, I think that beliefs and the meaning of life are very important.

 

[Atreus21]

The "meaning of life" is ridiculously vague.

How does finding value in life in any way relate to the 1000s of magical beings that humans have concocted?

Of course it's vague. It's a mystery. That's why it's so fascinating.

Value in life? If all comes to nothing in the end, if my decision to cannibalize my 3-year old is of no more moral significance then my decision to pick flowers, then I can't say life has any real value.

 

[Moonbeam]

Pondering the meaning of life doesn't require a belief in fantasy. It requires natural curiosity.

If you arrive at the conclusion that there is no ultimate meaning to life because the universe is fundamentally purposeless, then the only rational conclusion is to maximize happiness.

If you aren't rational how would you know? If you still cling to some notion that the universe does have a purpose it doesn't have, when would you have felt any need to discover other things? You are just regurgitating a rationalization you have created.

 

[bradly1101]

Conservatives live in a land of fantasy, so it would make sense that they would be happier. People who believe in magic(religion) are happier too. In other words, if you are stupid enough to be able to believe in make believe, it is easier than having to deal with the harsh realities of live.

"Facts have a liberal bias" ~Stephen Colbert