Lexus to roll out all-new sedan lineup by '06; BMW loyalists targeted

[NFS4]

http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=100820

 

[Aharami]

nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the name of a bimmer

Fixed for the snobs.

 

[hellfreeze]

makes me think too much of the nissan altima

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

You must be really special to already know how future cars will compare :roll:

 

[iamwiz82]

The GS is a pig, but it is on the Big Island, so I'll let it slide.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sales of the GS and IS are way off, but when the new ones arrive, that will be a big incremental gain

That's because they are overpriced.

The GS is a very nice car though.

I hate what Bangle is doing to BMW designs. I'd never buy one of those fugly cars.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

outsells, yes. better service, questionable. better reliability, yes. but the article is talking about converting BMW loyalists. BMW loyalists care about the feel of the car and driving experience more than anything...and i dont think lexus will be able to emulate that. I have driven a 330ci and a IS---. sure the bimmer had more power...but that aside, that car just felt more connected to the road than the lexus. This is just my opinion...and Im not even a BMW loyalist (as i dont own a BMW). In fact, i think bimmer are waaay overpriced for what you get. But the point the article was making...converting BMW loyalists...i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

 

[ElFenix]

that GS is half maxima and half amorphous blob es330.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

outsells, yes. better service, questionable. better reliability, yes. but the article is talking about converting BMW loyalists. BMW loyalists care about the feel of the car and driving experience more than anything...and i dont think lexus will be able to emulate that. I have driven a 330ci and a IS---. sure the bimmer had more power...but that aside, that car just felt more connected to the road than the lexus. This is just my opinion...and Im not even a BMW loyalist (as i dont own a BMW). In fact, i think bimmer are waaay overpriced for what you get. But the point the article was making...converting BMW loyalists...i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Since when are the GS and IS series boats?

 

[Passions]

OH SNAPSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now this screws up all my plans to get a current IS300.

 

[Turkish]

WOW, don't know about the other models but that GS is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Also, I'd like to see Lexus come up with something that compares to M Series, if they can

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

outsells, yes. better service, questionable. better reliability, yes. but the article is talking about converting BMW loyalists. BMW loyalists care about the feel of the car and driving experience more than anything...and i dont think lexus will be able to emulate that. I have driven a 330ci and a IS---. sure the bimmer had more power...but that aside, that car just felt more connected to the road than the lexus. This is just my opinion...and Im not even a BMW loyalist (as i dont own a BMW). In fact, i think bimmer are waaay overpriced for what you get. But the point the article was making...converting BMW loyalists...i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Since when are the GS and IS series boats?

since when did the poster make that claim?

 

[Hammer]

i refuse to switch. their efforts are in vain.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Merc was the target in the early 90s and Lexus succeeded in removing them from their #1 spot as luxury import in the US.

BMW, given its recent problems with iDrive and Bangle, is quite vulnerable. BMW use to think that their loyal customers would always remain so, no matter what. But the recent 2-3 years have proven otherwise. BMW should be afraid...very afraid.

 

[mchammer187]

i think BMW is doing a good job converting their loyalists with these bangle mangles coming out


fine let him design a vehicle or two but not their entire lineup WTF were they thinking

 

[Czar]

that look just doesnt "do it" for me, BMW still higher on my list than Lexus

 

[GTaudiophile]

Denny Clements, general manager of Lexus Division, says the time is right for Toyota's premium brand to win over BMW loyalists disaffected by that brand's move toward polarizing design and complicated electronic controls.

Mr. Clements knows what he's talking about.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

outsells, yes. better service, questionable. better reliability, yes. but the article is talking about converting BMW loyalists. BMW loyalists care about the feel of the car and driving experience more than anything...and i dont think lexus will be able to emulate that. I have driven a 330ci and a IS---. sure the bimmer had more power...but that aside, that car just felt more connected to the road than the lexus. This is just my opinion...and Im not even a BMW loyalist (as i dont own a BMW). In fact, i think bimmer are waaay overpriced for what you get. But the point the article was making...converting BMW loyalists...i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Since when are the GS and IS series boats?

since when did the poster make that claim?

Don't mind him, he doesn't know what he is talking about

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: The Boss
WOW, don't know about the other models but that GS is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Also, I'd like to see Lexus come up with something that compares to M Series, if they can

It was always my opinion that the GS430 was the car that was comparable to the M Series (assuming you are talking about the Infiniti M45 and not the BMW M5). Anwyay, I'm not really huge on the new looks of the GS. It is possible that it will grow on me when I see it in person or from different angles. At this point it does look way to "fat" for me. Hopefully my mind will change when I see it in person. I didn't really like the new Acura TL until I saw it in person.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: PricklyPete

Originally posted by: The Boss
WOW, don't know about the other models but that GS is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Also, I'd like to see Lexus come up with something that compares to M Series, if they can

It was always my opinion that the GS430 was the car that was comparable to the M Series (assuming you are talking about the Infiniti M45 and not the BMW M5). Anwyay, I'm not really huge on the new looks of the GS. It is possible that it will grow on me when I see it in person or from different angles. At this point it does look way to "fat" for me. Hopefully my mind will change when I see it in person. I didn't really like the new Acura TL until I saw it in person.

Actually, I was talking about the BMW M series

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mchammer187
i think BMW is doing a good job converting their loyalists with these bangle mangles coming out


fine let him design a vehicle or two but not their entire lineup WTF were they thinking

you'd think the quandt family, when finding out that every single reviewer of their cars hates the styling and idrive, would sack whoever was responsible.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Aharami
nop. cant do it. sorry. cant compare a boat to the feel of a bimmer

Doesn't matter. Lexus already outsells BMW, has better customer service, has better built and more reliable cars with comparable resale value.

outsells, yes. better service, questionable. better reliability, yes. but the article is talking about converting BMW loyalists. BMW loyalists care about the feel of the car and driving experience more than anything...and i dont think lexus will be able to emulate that. I have driven a 330ci and a IS---. sure the bimmer had more power...but that aside, that car just felt more connected to the road than the lexus. This is just my opinion...and Im not even a BMW loyalist (as i dont own a BMW). In fact, i think bimmer are waaay overpriced for what you get. But the point the article was making...converting BMW loyalists...i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Since when are the GS and IS series boats?

since when did the poster make that claim?

i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Considering that Lexus has a lineup of 4 sedans, 50% are geared towards luxury, and 50% are geared towards sport. Seems pretty reasonable to me and not needing of a blanket statement like that.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4

i think that will be a very difficult task for lexus...which is known to make boats

Considering that Lexus has a lineup of 4 sedans, 50% are geared towards luxury, and 50% are geared towards sport. Seems pretty reasonable to me and not needing of a blanket statement like that.

that doesn't say that the IS and GS ARE boats, just that people THINK lexus makes boats. reading comprehension.