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Lexus RC F

If you can stand a sedan supposedly the GS-F drives quite a bit better and only weighs <100lbs more.

I briefly considered a RC-F but went with a Stingray for the performance.
 
It's so underpowered compared to the German competition (who tend to underrate power) and unimpressive. I will applaud Lexus for going in a new direction and style, definitely would not have seen this coming from the '90s.
 
MegaFlop said:
If you can stand a sedan supposedly the GS-F drives quite a bit better and only weighs <100lbs more.
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I talked to an in-law who is an exec with Lexus. He told me that the original plan was to put he LFA engine in the GS-F as all the costs involved in the development of that V10 were already amortized. Then it was shelved for a while and when the decision finally came down to making the GS-F, for time reasons, they went with the V8.

That made me so sad to hear.
 
ATS-V is the way to go in this class.

RC F is really more about being a fast luxury cruiser. It's like comparing the Challenger to the Mustang & Camaro.
 
I have an RC-350. So underwhelming in it's power, response and feel. I leased it sight unseen, so no biggie when I return it back.
On Top Gear, when they reviewed the RC-F, they kept the review very short since Clarkson was clearly disgusted with the car. He hated it so much, he didn't bother racing it around the track to time it.

Pursuit of perfection my ass.
 
The extra Lexus cars the problem is they are priced slightly less than the BMWs teir wise

Rc200 to 428
Rc350 to 435
Ad rcf to m4

But their engines are all pretty ancient other than the 200 so they perform one tier down. Plus they are heavy cars to begin with.

The 350 and 5.0 v8 are the same engines that came out in 2006 and time has made them very uncompetitive
 
madoka said:
I talked to an in-law who is an exec with Lexus. He told me that the original plan was to put he LFA engine in the GS-F as all the costs involved in the development of that V10 were already amortized. Then it was shelved for a while and when the decision finally came down to making the GS-F, for time reasons, they went with the V8.

That made me so sad to hear.
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I seriously would have bought a V10 GS-F
 
hans007 said:
The extra Lexus cars the problem is they are priced slightly less than the BMWs teir wise

Rc200 to 428
Rc350 to 435
Ad rcf to m4

But their engines are all pretty ancient other than the 200 so they perform one tier down. Plus they are heavy cars to begin with.

The 350 and 5.0 v8 are the same engines that came out in 2006 and time has made them very uncompetitive
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toyota hasn't been adding paper horsepower to their V6s like they did in the late 90s, eh?
 
NutBucket said:
According to the car mags it's underwhelming to drive. Problem is, it's still a Lexus.
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In all fairness most people who buy these fast cars can't drive worth a damn anyway.

Plus, just fyi but little known fact, most auto journalists also can't drive worth a damn.
 
agent00f said:
In all fairness most people who buy these fast cars can't drive worth a damn anyway.

Plus, just fyi but little known fact, most auto journalists also can't drive worth a damn.
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In all fairness, neither can most people who buy slow cars... or motorcycles.
 
Sure, it's relative and fast car buyers aren't necessarily the worst, but the key point is they're not driving the fast cars any faster than they would slower ones.

A good gauge of fast driving is how hard the brakes are used. Notice you rarely hear of fade, ie. the need to upgrade brakes even on pretty expensive cars, which is usually the weakest link in almost every over the counter vehicle.
 
agent00f said:
Plus, just fyi but little known fact, most auto journalists also can't drive worth a damn.
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I don't mind that so much. But what pisses me off is how they will hype up a car that they themselves would NEVER buy even if they had the money because they know it's unreliable as hell or useless in the real world.

agent00f said:
Sure, it's relative and fast car buyers aren't necessarily the worst, but the key point is they're not driving the fast cars any faster than they would slower ones.

A good gauge of fast driving is how hard the brakes are used. Notice you rarely hear of fade, ie. the need to upgrade brakes even on pretty expensive cars, which is usually the weakest link in almost every over the counter vehicle.
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I drive WAY faster in my GTR than I do in my Maxima. I sometimes find myself hitting triple digits just taking my kids to school in the GTR.

At the same time, I'm super easy on the brakes because of that looming $7K brake job coming my way soon.
 
agent00f said:
Sure, it's relative and fast car buyers aren't necessarily the worst, but the key point is they're not driving the fast cars any faster than they would slower ones.

A good gauge of fast driving is how hard the brakes are used. Notice you rarely hear of fade, ie. the need to upgrade brakes even on pretty expensive cars, which is usually the weakest link in almost every over the counter vehicle.
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Huh? I had to go with a set of AP Racing brakes up front since the stock Brembos didn't cut it. The car has also been up to 170mph on multiple occasions.
 
It's simply not possible (or utterly insane) to drive any car fast on public roads. The straights are too long and corners aren't sharp enough. The only place these things have much use is on a racetrack, not just for public safety but practicality of it, and having been to a few I'm aware of ~ what portion of performance car owners are down there pushing the things.

Also just to clarify, the problem with brakes isn't coming down from high speed per se, but doing so repeatedly.
 
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