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Lexus loses top spot to Jaguar and Buick

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hmm, our IS has been great and I can't think of a single Buick (in any price range) or Jaguar (in the same price range) I'd rather own than this car.

You dont like that new Jag sedan?
 
Originally posted by: ballmode
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hmm, our IS has been great and I can't think of a single Buick (in any price range) or Jaguar (in the same price range) I'd rather own than this car.

You dont like that new Jag sedan?

The one with the funky bulge in the middle of the headlights? I think that Jag looks like shit. No, I don't like it. I hate it.
 
Originally posted by: Strk

A three year old car has a lot more in it than an eight year old car. Other than a sunroof, the base 2009 Honda Civic (even 2006, since that's when the refresh happened) comes with more than the top of the line Civic it replaced in 2001. It's hard to go on something that old when so much of what's going into these cars isn't even three years old.

I see your point. There are definitely more parts and features in an 8th gen Civic than a 7th gen model. However, the parts are also different, so you can't make a direct comparison. For instance, the current Civic uses a completely different engine and transmission than the 7th gen models.

This study originally focused on a 5 year span; now it's down to 3 years. Per ElFenix's post, I understand it's targeting models within the same generation, still being sold as new (since most models go 3-5 years between complete redesigns).

So basically, this survey is only applicable to people buying new or lease-returned vehicles? Fair enough, but it still leaves out the multitude of pre-owned previous generation vehicles for sale at dealerships (5-8 years old) - and that's still a large segment of automobile sales every year.


 
How do you define a "problem"?

I know my engine shudders a bit, it's an 11 years-old car, I don't expect it to run perfectly. To me, this is not a problem.

But for other same car owners, this is a problem. They bitch and trash honda for its quality glitch. What can you say about it?

I once had a friend who heard just the slightest noise from braking. He took the car back to dealership 3 times until the dealer basically told him not to be paranoid.

I certainly wouldn't qualify that as a problem but my friend lost sleep over it. Go figure.
 
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