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Lets get ready for some Debating Cage Fights Round 1,2, and 3

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Pens1566 said:
And Giuliani actually suggested that Trump not participate in the last 2 debates. Can't say I blame him.
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I really hope the Clintons saved these costumes. They may be able to get Ted Cruz and Jeb! to wear them.

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Jhhnn said:
That makes for a good cartoon like I linked previously but it's obvious conspiracy theory otherwise.

The next debate? Trump would be a fool to show up, so he probably will. He ain't skeered.

He should just declare himself the winner, claim bias, pronounce further debate as superfluous in light of his yuuge victory.
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Oh yeah there's no evidence for it whatsoever, it's just a guess. I mean other than the over $100,000 the Trump organization gave to the Clinton Foundation. Then at the debate last night Hillary started off with "It's good to be with you here tonight" or something like that to Trump. Then Trump later called her Secretary and asked if she's ok with that. He said "Are you happy? I want you to be very happy." Just little hints like that are not much to go on.

He might actually be one of the few businessmen that believes he would be happy as POTUS, the high stress thankless job that it is. He might really be that loony. He's certainly a narcissist or plays the part so well he's indistinguishable from one.
 
I've been eavesdropping on random coworkers talking about the debate all morning.

top takeaway I've heard from like 4 different people.... "why the hell did he bring up whatshername... O'Donnell in a national debate?"
 
Capt Caveman said:
How did SOX ruin your computer? I manage SOX for my company's IT systems and never come across a computer being ruined by it. If you mean, having to restrict segregation of duties and not being able to manipulate financial data, you'll have to explain how your computer is ruined?
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Some of the GPO's they require caused problems for us, I had to go through hell to get exemptions.
 
loki8481 said:
I've been eavesdropping on random coworkers talking about the debate all morning.

top takeaway I've heard from like 4 different people.... "why the hell did he bring up whatshername... O'Donnell in a national debate?"
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All the old white guys here who were enthusiastically chattering about Trump in the weeks leading up to this are all suddenly just talking about baseball...and only baseball. It's like the election disappeared.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Some of the commentators seem to think that Trump's biggest failing was not going after Clinton hard enough on the e-mails, Clinton foundation, Benghazi, etc. I don't agree. The trouble is that when he did go after her, she displayed a poised, even temperament. Even smiled. Clinton isn't easily rattled like Trump is. I have a feeling that Trump will "take the gloves off" more in the next debate but it will either backfire or just not accomplish much.

Trump's biggest problem tonight was his incoherence, particularly down the stretch. It's ironic that he went after Clinton on "stamina." Her stamina is actually amazing. His, not so much.
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She sat for twelve hours in that Benghazi hearing without batting an eye. She can definitely handle anything he throws at her.
 
bshole said:
Hillary scared the ever living shit out of me with all of her cyber security bullshit. The absolute last thing in the world that America wants or needs is the government all up in our internet. Bureaucrats won't stop trying to get in and I loathe them for it.

Sarbanes - Oxley RUINED the computer I have at work. All those regulations on IT had nothing to do with Enron but they put them in anyways. Dirty fuckers.
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Trump will want to know everything everyone is cybering about him when they cyber. He's going to take care of that cyber so well that he's going to know when you talk about Trump and his family. You better believe it.
 
What was that stupid, fake grin on Hillary's face? A nasty person who is known for treating everyone around her, her staff, even the secret service agents etc, like absolutely garbage - trying to come across as personable? As believable as her talk about middle class.
 
squarecut1 said:
What was that stupid, fake grin on Hillary's face?
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I don't know, the smirk she put on when trump started yelling about her fighting ISIS her entire adult life was pretty damn funny.

I know it was a real smirk because I had the same smirk on my face when he said that. It was just too funny.
 
trump fucked up so bad even the right wingers around here think hillary "kinda won" lol. Thats telling. Lets see if it moves the polls though. People are dumb in this country.
 
squarecut1 said:
What was that stupid, fake grin on Hillary's face? A nasty person who is known for treating everyone around her, her staff, even the secret service agents etc, like absolutely garbage - trying to come across as personable? As believable as her talk about middle class.
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You mean the one that hopefully 51%+ of viewers had on their faces too? The one that was clearly a "holy shit, he's killing himself and I don't have to do a damn thing but sit here and bask in it" look?
 
KillerBee said:
Well the final official results are in and might as well go ahead and lock all these debate threads.

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Yup who needs to look at actual information and sources when you can point to online polls.

Again, President Ron Paul approves of your methods.

You might want to read the rest of this thread where the proactive online poll manipulation efforts have been covered.
 
Homerboy said:
You mean the one that hopefully 51%+ of viewers had on their faces too? The one that was clearly a "holy shit, he's killing himself and I don't have to do a damn thing but sit here and bask in it" look?
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Except that it was there from the get go. Part of the "strategy" - no doubt the result of valiant efforts of a gazillion different focus groups, polls, obscenely paid consultants, the whole nine yards. All for the middle class of course
 
ivwshane said:
Just a point of fact; He got NAFTA wrong as well. Studies show NAFTA was relatively neutral, it didn't cause job losses like its detractors claimed it would nor did it stimulate the economy like its supporters said it would.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/42xx/doc4247/report.pdf
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Yup. Clinton, however, did miss that point in response when Trump was going on about how NAFTA was the worst deal made in the history of mankind or some such hyperbole.
 
Homerboy said:
THAT'S the part that scared you? I'm sure Trump will take care of "the cyber" if he's elected.
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The point is, NOBODY is asking the government to get involved. They invite themselves to get involved. I see them as nothing less than a pernicious influence on the internet. There should be two internets, one for the government and one for the people. They can patrol and monitor the government internet and leave the rest of us alone. Cyber security my ass, it is a power grab and a kick in the nuts to freedom. Mark my words, they will eventually succeed in grabbing the reins of power and we will all look back with nostalgia on the internet that we have now. It pisses me off that they have the absolute SACK to even talk about it.
 
ivwshane said:
Just a point of fact; He got NAFTA wrong as well. Studies show NAFTA was relatively neutral, it didn't cause job losses like its detractors claimed it would nor did it stimulate the economy like its supporters said it would.

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/42xx/doc4247/report.pdf
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Just because Trump is a chump and easily rope a doped doesn't mean NAFTA was neutral at worst.
.http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...-suffered-and-the-united-states-felt-its-pain

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/o...-mexico-the-election-is-about-nafta.html?_r=0


And why would Hillary tell the President of the UAW she will renegotiate the deal if it wasn't that bad like you say, unless she is telling him what he wants to hear like most democrats do to unions today and throw them under the bus after they get into office,
And while Hillary Clinton knocks most of Mr. Trump’s positions, she has echoed this one. “Too often past trade deals have been sold to the American people with rosy scenarios that didn’t pan out,” she said in a speech near Detroit. The president of the United Auto Workers, Dennis Williams, said she promised him that she would renegotiate the deal.
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K1052 said:
All the old white guys here who were enthusiastically chattering about Trump in the weeks leading up to this are all suddenly just talking about baseball...and only baseball. It's like the election disappeared.
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That's actually a good thing. It means that the little grey cells are working away in the background, re-evaluating, trying to integrate new information.

It's always fun & games & talkin' trash until it gets real, like a strike vote in a Union shop. Afterwards, they'll express disbelief that we took the contract even though they voted for it.

More than a few will do the same with Hillary.
 
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