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Lets get ready for some Debating Cage Fights Round 1,2, and 3

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emperus said:
Why does Trump keep defending Russia against the hacking claim esp. if he has not evidence either way? It seems very unpatriotic.
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Because if he slams his man bro Putin he'll look silly if there turns out to be something damaging to Hillary that he won't be able to resist using

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IronWing said:
I looked it up. She ended up not giving the concert but did give all the students tickets to one of her other concerts and gave the school a big bag of money. Pitbull did go to Kodiak, Alaska and from the pics it looked like he kept it classy and put on a fun show.
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Even more awesome
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I could not locate the bottom right abcNEWS poll on their site, maybe the liberal media removed it

Or

Its from that fake ABCnews site that appears occasionally on these forums its the site that posts glowing reviews of Trump and says Russian troops are only in Russia.
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And I wonder how many of those votes are from Russia.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Trump was an embarrassment, he's a motivated guy. I predict he'll spend a ton of time doing more standard debate prep. He could even turn it around look at Obama's first debate with Romney it can happen.
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He's not going to turn it around. His goal was to steal the election from the crazy cabal of repbublican loonies and give the potus position to Hilarious Hilary from the very start. He is accomplishing that goal without it being too obvious. Next debate he will probably be slightly worse or about the same.
 
disappoint said:
He's not going to turn it around. His goal was to steal the election from the crazy cabal of repbublican loonies and give the potus position to Hilarious Hilary from the very start. He is accomplishing that goal without it being too obvious. Next debate he will probably be slightly worse or about the same.
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the problem is if that what his (their?) goal, he's not doing a good job. Last I checked, they are pretty damn close in the polls.
 
Best comment I've heard has to go to Steve Schmidt.

"If you go back and watch the debate with Sarah Palin in 2008, she was monumentally more fluent and prepared. She looked liked Henry Kissinger compared to him on these National Security issues last night.
 
Homerboy said:
the problem is if that what his (their?) goal, he's not doing a good job. Last I checked, they are pretty damn close in the polls.
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Those polls are probably skewed to drum up interest so the media has a story to sell. If it was a landslide fewer people will be interested in viewing.
 
Homerboy said:
Trump's whole spin on his acumen as a business man. Because of that, he attempts to break down every topic to a financial transaction of some nature. Sure that makes sense for trade agreements and domestic business etc. But it does not apply, no matter how hard he may try, to race relations and foreign policy and national security.

That being said, if you're going to hang your hat on being the world's best business man, then you're going to want to back that up with proof -- some sort of empirical evidence. Which to me, would be his tax returns. His reluctance (and ignorance) on not releasing them really bothers me. By not releasing them, it only makes me and millions of others speculate he is hiding something -- especially when he falls back on the excuse that he "can't" due to being under audit. Add on top of that the little "that'd make me smart" comment last night about not paying any taxes and I really have doubts about his money situation.

As a business man who certainly has made billion dollar deals all over the globe for decades, I want to know if he is indebted to any foreign countries/citizens before he'd become POTUS. That is a potentially huge conflict of interest. Not to mention his reluctance to put his companies into a blind trust if he were to take the oval office.
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Even if I was going to buy the 'audit' thing, why not just release the years that aren't under audit?
 
bshole said:
Hillary scared the ever living shit out of me with all of her cyber security bullshit. The absolute last thing in the world that America wants or needs is the government all up in our internet. Bureaucrats won't stop trying to get in and I loathe them for it.

Sarbanes - Oxley RUINED the computer I have at work. All those regulations on IT had nothing to do with Enron but they put them in anyways. Dirty fuckers.
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How did SOX ruin your computer? I manage SOX for my company's IT systems and never come across a computer being ruined by it. If you mean, having to restrict segregation of duties and not being able to manipulate financial data, you'll have to explain how your computer is ruined?
 
Bird222 said:
Even if I was going to buy the 'audit' thing, why not just release the years that aren't under audit?
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I was surprized Hillary didn't suggest that or even release the 7+ stuff that can't be audited today. She has released 30+ years.

Edit: I'd still like to see Obama troll Trump and issue a Presidential pardon to any tax errors or schemes to Trump & Co.
It would be fun to watch him still keep his taxes private plus watch the Republicans melt down over Presidential pardons or why Trump got the exemption.
 
Funniest part is how our resident Trump supporters have gone almost completely quiet the last 12 hours. Guess it takes time to generate the spin and you-tube videos.
 
Capt Caveman said:
How did SOX ruin your computer? I manage SOX for my company's IT systems and never come across a computer being ruined by it. If you mean, having to restrict segregation of duties and not being able to manipulate financial data, you'll have to explain how your computer is ruined?
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I'm going to guess the extra encryption and security bogged things down. I had a similar experience at a major telecom years ago. They spent tons of time speeding up the computers and better networking and it paid off for around 6 months, stuff was noticeably faster. Then came the encryption, various vpns, extra Av protection and we were right back where we started.
 
brycejones said:
Funniest part is how our resident Trump supporters have gone almost completely quiet the last 12 hours. Guess it takes time to generate the spin and you-tube videos.
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Couple of possibilities:

1) They're too busy furiously skewing online polls about the result of last night's debate

2) They're still in shock after ~100 million people watched Drumpf get butt f***ed on every channel last night.

As to #2, does that mean the deplorables got cucked? Melania? Both?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I'm going to guess the extra encryption and security bogged things down. I had a similar experience at a major telecom years ago. They spent tons of time speeding up the computers and better networking and it paid off for around 6 months, stuff was noticeably faster. Then came the encryption, various vpns, extra Av protection and we were right back where we started.
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Which can be handled on the server side if you're not storing data on your computer which you shouldn't. Sounds more like inept IT than SOX.
 
disappoint said:
He's not going to turn it around. His goal was to steal the election from the crazy cabal of repbublican loonies and give the potus position to Hilarious Hilary from the very start. He is accomplishing that goal without it being too obvious. Next debate he will probably be slightly worse or about the same.
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That makes for a good cartoon like I linked previously but it's obvious conspiracy theory otherwise.

The next debate? Trump would be a fool to show up, so he probably will. He ain't skeered.

He should just declare himself the winner, claim bias, pronounce further debate as superfluous in light of his yuuge victory.
 
emperus said:
Did Trump really say "Why Not" when Clinton said she would be blamed for everything that's ever happened? #wtf
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Yes he did. He acted like a ignorant blow-hard, school yard bully. (because he is)
There were great little, subtle jabs that Hillary used too -- quoting Michelle Obama about "they go low, we go high" from her DNC speech was an indirect recall of Melina's plagiarism.

I also loved the point where Trump touted that he didn't pay the architect what he agreed to because his work was sub-par. Then bragged about being ahead of schedule and below budget on projects.
 
brycejones said:
Funniest part is how our resident Trump supporters have gone almost completely quiet the last 12 hours. Guess it takes time to generate the spin and you-tube videos.
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I'm pretty sure they're going to claim that those rigged online polls are completely authentic, that the consensus of all media outlets besides right-wing sycophants (Fox, Breitbart et. al.) is horribly flawed, and that Glorious Leader Trump just secured his inevitable victory.
 
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