Let there be light

[ArizonaSteve]

It was the burning bush you heathen.

Gotta be painful for the woman who owned it...

 

[BudAshes]

It's not atheist garbage, it's intelligent design. Why does proving we have no free will means a creator doesn't exist exactly? Why does even a perfect understanding of all the universe preclude a creator from existing? Maybe the creator spawned from LITERALLY nothing, and split nothing into matter and anti-matter, then returned to nothingness because once they did that, the rest can all be known and there was no reason for their existence.

Intelligent design is a fine theory depending on the details. The bible is the joke not the belief in a creator.

 

[Brigandier]

Atheist or a religious person clutching to the notion that you actions are somehow made up of inexplicable magical thoughts?

No, but the simple fact at any time I can choose to go against those thoughts. Yes, humans are heavily predisposed to behave a certain way depending on neurological pathways and brain chemistry, but at any moment a human can choose to go against that. That's why psychohistory only works on large groups of people.

Humans have free will, it is just not wise to use it. Complete shit to say we don't have it though.

 

[momeNt]

No, but the simple fact at any time I can choose to go against those thoughts. Yes, humans are heavily predisposed to behave a certain way depending on neurological pathways and brain chemistry, but at any moment a human can choose to go against that. That's why psychohistory only works on large groups of people.

Humans have free will, it is just not wise to use it. Complete shit to say we don't have it though.

All thoughts and actions will eventually be mapped and understood, they are not currently. I'm just saying what is eventually to come. I suppose you can hold on to the concept of free will until that point.

 

[techs]

I'd just like to take a moment to ask God if he sent Hurricane Sandy to remind Americans to vote for Obama?

 

[Red Squirrel]

All thoughts and actions will eventually be mapped and understood, they are not currently. I'm just saying what is eventually to come. I suppose you can hold on to the concept of free will until that point.

We are not preprogrammed robots, so I highly doubt one could tell the future of what someone will do. You can perhaps make some guesses based on the certain circumstances in the brain, but at any given time one can make a decision or change their mind on something or not follow what they'd normally follow in said situation. We are self aware and not just some chemical reaction going on. Atheists seem to not understand the concept of self awareness vs a robot or other thing that is not alive. The fact that you are seeing this now, have certain thoughts and feelings, is proof of self awareness.

 

[momeNt]

We are not preprogrammed robots, so I highly doubt one could tell the future of what someone will do. You can perhaps make some guesses based on the certain circumstances in the brain, but at any given time one can make a decision or change their mind on something or not follow what they'd normally follow in said situation. We are self aware and not just some chemical reaction going on. Atheists seem to not understand the concept of self awareness vs a robot or other thing that is not alive. The fact that you are seeing this now, have certain thoughts and feelings, is proof of self awareness.

I agree that that is how it all feels, but I don't believe in magic and there is an explanation for everything, we just haven't found it yet.

 

[soulcougher73]

Just because God knows what we are going to do, doesn't mean that to us, it's any different. We are still making choices daily without knowledge of the future.

 

[BudAshes]

We are not preprogrammed robots, so I highly doubt one could tell the future of what someone will do. You can perhaps make some guesses based on the certain circumstances in the brain, but at any given time one can make a decision or change their mind on something or not follow what they'd normally follow in said situation. We are self aware and not just some chemical reaction going on. Atheists seem to not understand the concept of self awareness vs a robot or other thing that is not alive. The fact that you are seeing this now, have certain thoughts and feelings, is proof of self awareness.

Random is only an illusion in computer science. Our self aware decisions probably are as well. The argument against that is that at the subatomic level it appears as though particles act at random but that is likely only from our point of view. When you can see the entire picture random events always end up predictable.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Well bros, look up the uncertainty principle. This Universe is literally designed so that those who exists within it cannot predict the future with absolute certainty.

Therefore, only God, who created the Universe and doesn't have to follow its laws, knows the future.

 

[Iron Woode]

Well bros, look up the uncertainty principle. This Universe is literally designed so that those who exists within it cannot predict the future with absolute certainty.

Therefore, only God, who created the Universe and doesn't have to follow its laws, knows the future.

you still going on about that figment of your imagination?

time for you to stop posting.

 

[BurnItDwn]

So, are we saying that "god" is the electric company? And if you pay for your electric bill, then the electric company lets the electrons flow to your house, thus, you can turn on the lights?

Or perhaps you're saying that "god" lives inside of the light bulbs?

Or, are you suggesting that "god" created the sun?
If so, I am proposing a much better deity for you.

There is MUCH more documented evidence that he exists.

He looks like a man but he's not of this world.
He witnessed the birth of man, and has watched from above and within.
He's saved the earth many times from horros such as the Daleks, the cybermen, the ever terrifying weeping angles, the master, the silence, Davros, and many many other threats.
With his TARDIS, he travels through time and space.
He is the last of his kind.
You can call him "The Doctor"

There are over 750 "episodes" to prove his existence. The evidence is suspect, as it appears that "trick camera work" or "special effects" may have been used. However, it is still a mountain of evidence in comparison to the total lack of evidence for other god theories.

Therefore, I choose the doctor.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Speed of light is determined by God at the onset of his creation to mesh with the whole.

Did you ever wonder about the equation E = Mc^2

Why are people so fascinated with it? Why does it seem like almost everyone know what it is?

Answer:
The equation is one of the mysteries of this universe. It is very simple, yet it works out beautifully. If you ever wonder why you got so fascinated when you first saw it, it is because it is one of God's signatures He built into our Universe at the onset of creation.

 

[Miramonti]

Quit bumping all your old cr@p, Pray to Jesus. Aren't people enough sick of your current threads?

 

[sdifox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwd13F_1Gs

 

[zinfamous]

And I created curry!

Me > your god.

 

[BudAshes]

Speed of light is determined by God at the onset of his creation to mesh with the whole.

Did you ever wonder about the equation E = Mc^2

Why are people so fascinated with it? Why does it seem like almost everyone know what it is?

Answer:
The equation is one of the mysteries of this universe. It is very simple, yet it works out beautifully. If you ever wonder why you got so fascinated when you first saw it, it is because it is one of God's signatures He built into our Universe at the onset of creation.

Even if this is true the bible is still horseshit and jesus was just some hippy.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Well bros, look up the uncertainty principle. This Universe is literally designed so that those who exists within it cannot predict the future with absolute certainty.

Therefore, only God, who created the Universe and doesn't have to follow its laws, knows the future.

So god knows his priests will molest little boys and he doesn't mind. And you love him for it.