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Let there be light

Well, it looks like god forgot the lower east side on manhattan. I've been in the dark for days now.
 
What we refer to as "light" generally refers to a range of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum. Allegedly, God did not say "radiation." (That brings up another issue - how can God "say" anything, since speaking implies sound, and sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.) Anyway, various animals can observe radiation at either end of the visible light spectrum - some frequencies of infrared, and some frequencies of ultraviolet. Our eyes only see a tiny slice of the spectrum. You could bathe an object in many other frequencies, and it would be "lit" up, but completely dark to human eyes. Since Genesis differentiates between dark and light, it very strongly implies that God was talking about visible light.

Without the existence of human eyes, or any other eyes for that matter, "let there be light" makes no sense. If our eyes were sensitive to a range on the electromagnetic spectrum that our Sun doesn't put out, we'd be completely in the dark, despite the Earth being bathed in radiomagnetic radiation.
 
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DrPizza said:
What we refer to as "light" generally refers to a range of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum. Allegedly, God did not say "radiation." (That brings up another issue - how can God "say" anything, since speaking implies sound, and sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.) Anyway, various animals can observe radiation at either end of the visible light spectrum - some frequencies of infrared, and some frequencies of ultraviolet. Our eyes only see a tiny slice of the spectrum. You could bathe an object in many other frequencies, and it would be "lit" up, but completely dark to human eyes. Since Genesis differentiates between dark and light, it very strongly implies that God was talking about visible light.

Without the existence of human eyes, or any other eyes for that matter, "let there be light" makes no sense. If our eyes were sensitive to a range on the electromagnetic spectrum that our Sun doesn't put out, we'd be completely in the dark, despite the Earth being bathed in radiomagnetic radiation.
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Stop it! You are making a case for ID! :colbert:
 
Pray to Jesus....since you ignored my questions in your last religious thread, I'll repost them here and hope you don't ignore them again.



Do humans have free will? I think not if you believe God is all knowing, past, present and future. So, since God knows what you're going to do in every moment of your life, isn't your life sort of preordained/predetermined? So you only have the illusion of free will---God's already got your whole life mapped out and knows from before your birth whether you go to heaven or hell. So while you may think you have free will, you have none in reality.


Why did God never condemn slavery? Did God not know enslaving humans was not exactly a good idea? Nope, nowhere in the Bible is slavery condemned; rather, slavery seems to be condoned as an institution as God and Jesus give very explicit instructions on how to treat your slave humanely, when a slave should be released from bondage (if the slave "qualifies" for eventual freedom---and God has put conditions on that, too), etc., etc. So why is God so wrong on that?


Why did God bother with the Tree of Knowledge in the first place? Since God is all knowing, He certainly knew Eve would fall for Satan's ploy and eat from the Tree, thereby condemning humankind to sin. Why did God bother with that? Why not just make humans slaves of sin in the first place? Or, why even bother creating humans? Cut out the middle man, so to speak, and just create more souls in heaven to adore Him. Seems to me God wants the adoration and worship of humans most of all, which begs the question---why is God so insecure? Does He really need humans to worship Him? After all, He existed quite well before humans were created, so why were humans created? Was He bored? The angels not worshiping Him enough?


Does it bother the fundamentalist Christians that the New Testament is a Catholic creation? It took several Papal conferences over a protracted period of time to assemble the writings we now accept as the New Testament and reject the hundreds of writings that weren't seen as "good enough".

And why do Christians get focused on a book intended for the Jews, a la the Old Testament? And does it bother you that primarily Jews wrote the books of both the Old and New Testaments?


Questions..........and no answers.

Of course, we could go on and on, like how did kangaroos end up in Australia and nowhere else, while the Amazon has species that exist nowhere else, just like other species are specific to certain locales in the world and nowhere else. Guess Noah motored all around the world dropping off insects, animals, birds, etc., here and there in a fairly arbitrary pattern, but the Bible says quite differently. Why the discrepancy?


And why did God put humans out at the far edge of an insignificant galaxy, so far from our universe's center? You'd think that since we humans are so damned important to God that He'd have made our solar system/galaxy the center of the universe. But it's not.


And why did God even create the solar system or the universe in the first place? It seems that it would have been much simpler and safer for us humans to have just the sun and earth without those pesky and sometimes dangerous asteroids and comets floating around space. Did He just not realize the danger the earth can be in with an asteroid impact? Or does He not care? All that creating universe after universe seems like a needless waste of time/effort/resources.


And when He created light, which light are we talking about? Our sun specifically or the sun in Alpha Centauri or the suns at the center of our universe or the suns in the next universe over?
 
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CPA said:
So the sun stopped coming up in the morning?
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No, the sun forgot to spin around the earth, again! Isn't that what the Holy Roman/Catholic Church taught and reinforced for centuries and persecuted/killed those who dared to put anything other than the earth at the center of the universe?
 
DrPizza said:
What we refer to as "light" generally refers to a range of radiation on the electromagnetic spectrum. Allegedly, God did not say "radiation." (That brings up another issue - how can God "say" anything, since speaking implies sound, and sound doesn't travel in a vacuum.) Anyway, various animals can observe radiation at either end of the visible light spectrum - some frequencies of infrared, and some frequencies of ultraviolet. Our eyes only see a tiny slice of the spectrum. You could bathe an object in many other frequencies, and it would be "lit" up, but completely dark to human eyes. Since Genesis differentiates between dark and light, it very strongly implies that God was talking about visible light.

Without the existence of human eyes, or any other eyes for that matter, "let there be light" makes no sense. If our eyes were sensitive to a range on the electromagnetic spectrum that our Sun doesn't put out, we'd be completely in the dark, despite the Earth being bathed in radiomagnetic radiation.
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Notice I didn't say visible light. God created light as in the reality of electromagnetic radiation which prior to that didn't exist.
 
Pray To Jesus said:
Notice I didn't say visible light. God created light as in the reality of electromagnetic radiation which prior to that didn't exist.
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Couldn't have just said "let E=MC^2." And defined C, of course.

Maybe then the crusaders would have had atomic bombs.
 
Gibsons said:
Couldn't have just said "let E=MC^2." And defined C, of course.

Maybe then the crusaders would have had atomic bombs.
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Riding dinosaurs with laser cannons would be more impressive. You yell, "LET THERE BE LIGHT" and fire the laser cannons. 😎
 
Meghan54 said:
Pray to Jesus....since you ignored my questions in your last religious thread, I'll repost them here and hope you don't ignore them again.



Do humans have free will? I think not if you believe God is all knowing, past, present and future. So, since God knows what you're going to do in every moment of your life, isn't your life sort of preordained/predetermined? So you only have the illusion of free will---God's already got your whole life mapped out and knows from before your birth whether you go to heaven or hell. So while you may think you have free will, you have none in reality.


Why did God never condemn slavery? Did God not know enslaving humans was not exactly a good idea? Nope, nowhere in the Bible is slavery condemned; rather, slavery seems to be condoned as an institution as God and Jesus give very explicit instructions on how to treat your slave humanely, when a slave should be released from bondage (if the slave "qualifies" for eventual freedom---and God has put conditions on that, too), etc., etc. So why is God so wrong on that?


Why did God bother with the Tree of Knowledge in the first place? Since God is all knowing, He certainly knew Eve would fall for Satan's ploy and eat from the Tree, thereby condemning humankind to sin. Why did God bother with that? Why not just make humans slaves of sin in the first place? Or, why even bother creating humans? Cut out the middle man, so to speak, and just create more souls in heaven to adore Him. Seems to me God wants the adoration and worship of humans most of all, which begs the question---why is God so insecure? Does He really need humans to worship Him? After all, He existed quite well before humans were created, so why were humans created? Was He bored? The angels not worshiping Him enough?


Does it bother the fundamentalist Christians that the New Testament is a Catholic creation? It took several Papal conferences over a protracted period of time to assemble the writings we now accept as the New Testament and reject the hundreds of writings that weren't seen as "good enough".

And why do Christians get focused on a book intended for the Jews, a la the Old Testament? And does it bother you that primarily Jews wrote the books of both the Old and New Testaments?


Questions..........and no answers.

Of course, we could go on and on, like how did kangaroos end up in Australia and nowhere else, while the Amazon has species that exist nowhere else, just like other species are specific to certain locales in the world and nowhere else. Guess Noah motored all around the world dropping off insects, animals, birds, etc., here and there in a fairly arbitrary pattern, but the Bible says quite differently. Why the discrepancy?


And why did God put humans out at the far edge of an insignificant galaxy, so far from our universe's center? You'd think that since we humans are so damned important to God that He'd have made our solar system/galaxy the center of the universe. But it's not.


And why did God even create the solar system or the universe in the first place? It seems that it would have been much simpler and safer for us humans to have just the sun and earth without those pesky and sometimes dangerous asteroids and comets floating around space. Did He just not realize the danger the earth can be in with an asteroid impact? Or does He not care? All that creating universe after universe seems like a needless waste of time/effort/resources.


And when He created light, which light are we talking about? Our sun specifically or the sun in Alpha Centauri or the suns at the center of our universe or the suns in the next universe over?
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too long to read
 
Meghan54 said:
Thought your cop out would be something like that.
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I went back and read some of your post to see what the questions are and most of your questions are basic theology can be answered by a little bit of researching and reading the correct material.

But I know from the rest of your post that your intent is not to learn, but to try and mock what you think are inconsistencies.

Hence I feel no need to answer your questions. If you truly wanted to learn the answers, you would look it up first. You might not be educated enough to know how to do that, but I doubt that.
 
DrPizza said:
Without the existence of human eyes, or any other eyes for that matter, "let there be light" makes no sense.
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Easy, God's eyes were there to see it. Before Genesis 1:3, he was just chilling in the dark. They're probably sensitive across the EM spectrum, too.
 
jagec said:
Easy, God's eyes were there to see it. Before Genesis 1:3, he was just chilling in the dark. They're probably sensitive across the EM spectrum, too.
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And beyond to things which we don't even know exists at this point in time. God can also create things from nothing.
 
Too much of nothing can make a god feel ill at ease...
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