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Let the Manning vs Luck debate begin! *Official NFL Week 7 Thread*

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Colts play anything like they did last night and they will be going down quite easily. Broncos played their worst game this week too and won by 16 points. Jax may be a bad team but they created the most hits on Manning all year and gave him the most fits in the secondary. They clearly had a good defensive game plan.

Knowshon Moreno will have 200 yards on the ground and 3 TDs

Von Miller with 3 sacks on Luck
 
If the Colts had kept Manning you would have to take 17.5 million dollars of talent off the Colts roster

You mean like Darius Heyward-Bey? LOL

Yea, that guy wasn't good enough to make the Oakland receiving corp which is one of the worst in the NFL. Yet the Colts pick him up as if he even deserves a job in the NFL. Proved last night why all the speed in the world can't make up for stone hands and negative football IQ.

Everything you said was right BTW, I just think its hilarious what the Colts actually did with that cap space. It certainly wasn't spent on weapons for Andrew Luck.

Also, perhaps Trent Richardson is a bust afterall?
 
You mean like Darius Heyward-Bey? LOL

Yea, that guy wasn't good enough to make the Oakland receiving corp which is one of the worst in the NFL. Yet the Colts pick him up as if he even deserves a job in the NFL. Proved last night why all the speed in the world can't make up for stone hands and negative football IQ.

Everything you said was right BTW, I just think its hilarious what the Colts actually did with that cap space. It certainly wasn't spent on weapons for Andrew Luck.

Also, perhaps Trent Richardson is a bust afterall?

DHB draft position was based off speed. Seriously, the Raiders passed up Crabtree for him.

Don't talk bad about T. Richardson around here, you will get people coming in here talking about how you are wrong and he needs time to adjust to his new scheme. His 3.6 ypc average for his career is not his fault !!!
 
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Ever since the switch it seems MNF gets rather mediocre games overall, although the schedule this year has been better than the last couple.

And you have Tirico being one of the shittiest announces out there. If they wanted to can someone, they should have left in Jaws and ditched his ass. Jaws and Gruden going at each other full game would have been entertaining.
 
Even though they have a same record with Denver. 6 weeks in, to see the Kansas City Chiefs winning the Division is quite spectacular. (Tie Breakers)

Yeah, I never expected the AFC West to look the way it does... within the division AND compared to other divisions.

Never understood why anybody would care about rank so early in the season though. The schedule dictates when you play your divisional games so KC and Denver can bounce around until they meet each other.
 
Who exactly do you see beating them in the AFC?

They barely beat Dallas and didn't do well against the Jags. There is still more than enough time left in the season for a team to hit its stride and run deep into the playoffs. Remember, you guaranteed victory against the Ravens last year and look what happened.
 
You mean like Darius Heyward-Bey? LOL

Yea, that guy wasn't good enough to make the Oakland receiving corp which is one of the worst in the NFL. Yet the Colts pick him up as if he even deserves a job in the NFL. Proved last night why all the speed in the world can't make up for stone hands and negative football IQ.

Everything you said was right BTW, I just think its hilarious what the Colts actually did with that cap space. It certainly wasn't spent on weapons for Andrew Luck.

You have to remember that the Colts turned over something like 70% of their roster between Manning's last year and Luck's first year. They completely tore the team apart and there were lots of holes to fill. They chose to address many of the needs in the draft (Fleener, Allen, Hilton, Ballard). Of that group, the one I'd say is disappointing is Fleener and it does hurt that Allen is out this year.

DHB is a project and was definitely worth signing. There wasn't much to lose but tons of upside.

You're being a little cocky there AMDZen -- remember, if it weren't for Manning, the Broncos would be hovering between 7-9 and 10-6 and going nowhere.

I personally think the biggest offensive issue the Colts have (outside of their inconsistent line play) is the new scheme is restricting Luck too much. They need to let him air it out more.

Also, perhaps Trent Richardson is a bust afterall?

Trent is going to have to step it up with Bradshaw out for the season. I think bust is probably too strong at this point, but the word on the street is that he isn't hungry and that shows in his effort sometimes.
 
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Also, I'm not saying that Trent Richardson is the second coming of Emmitt Smith, but I'd highly encourage people to review Emmitt's rookie year stats and compare them to Trent Richardson's rookie stats. They are pretty similar and Emmitt won ROY with those stats.
 
Also, I'm not saying that Trent Richardson is the second coming of Emmitt Smith, but I'd highly encourage people to review Emmitt's rookie year stats and compare them to Trent Richardson's rookie stats. They are pretty similar and Emmitt won ROY with those stats.

I don't know about his rookie year, but Emmitt pretty much spent his career behind an HoF O-line.

Richardson hasn't even had that, yet.
 
And let's not forget, until the ravens started to have people drop like flies they had the lead against them too.


Heard the jets just signed cribbs.
 
I don't know about his rookie year, but Emmitt pretty much spent his career behind an HoF O-line.

Richardson hasn't even had that, yet.

That is absolutely true.

But I guess I am just jaded of Alabama running backs because of Mark Ingram. For the past 2 season people kept yelling to give him the ball more but he just continued to look so mediocre for a 1st round pick. Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory and Khiry Robinson, all undrafted free agents, looked better than him. Even our fullback Jed Collins has run better than him this season. I would have been better off drafting Jed Collins than Mark Ingram fantasy football 😛
 
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One of the problems with backs now, especially when talking about ingram, richardson, and another I can't recall the name of, is in college you have a couple programs that can maintain such a good o-line that any back looks spectacular and the rest of the teams are running spread based attacks that minimize any development as a pounding ball carrier. So the result is rbs are going to continue to fall in the draft, not because people don't see the value but because they are coming with suspect abilities or untried in a run demanding offense.
 
They barely beat Dallas and didn't do well against the Jags. There is still more than enough time left in the season for a team to hit its stride and run deep into the playoffs. Remember, you guaranteed victory against the Ravens last year and look what happened.

You're really going to bring that up when I ask you who you see as competition for the Broncos? By week 6 you should at least have some idea on who its going to be, since you were the one that said it.

Most people would agree that the Broncos should have won against the Ravens last year, even if it is entirely irrelevant to the here and now.

I just don't see any team in the AFC except maybe the Colts, and that is why I was wondering if you believe the Colts will be the main competition come playoffs, or if you're one of those that believe in the Chiefs, or if you have another favorite.

You have to remember that the Colts turned over something like 70% of their roster between Manning's last year and Luck's first year. They completely tore the team apart and there were lots of holes to fill. They chose to address many of the needs in the draft (Fleener, Allen, Hilton, Ballard). Of that group, the one I'd say is disappointing is Fleener and it does hurt that Allen is out this year.

DHB is a project and was definitely worth signing. There wasn't much to lose but tons of upside.

You're being a little cocky there AMDZen -- remember, if it weren't for Manning, the Broncos would be hovering between 7-9 and 10-6 and going nowhere.

I personally think the biggest offensive issue the Colts have (outside of their inconsistent line play) is the new scheme is restricting Luck too much. They need to let him air it out more.

I am being cocky because I think DHB is a terrible player? He has zero upside and is nothing but a liability on your offense. IMO of course.

Of course if it weren't for Manning we wouldn't be where we are, that goes without saying. And it's also completely irrelevant. If the Colts weren't lucky enough to just happen to have a #1 pick again when the best prospect since Manning was available, the Colts would be fighting with Jacksonville for another 1st overall this year.

You were lucky to get Luck.

The Broncos were also lucky to get Manning.

Both franchises are currently happy. And the game should be good. You have to admit though, a performance like last night is just abysmal. It made the Broncos lackluster play against Jax look like a bunch of rock stars in comparison. I expect both teams to be at the top of their game for primetime though, and it should be a good game.
 
I sure hope Freeman can do something this week; I feel like he still has talent and was just out of it with that dope Schiano. Maybe he can revitalize himself up in Minnesota. /fingerscrossed

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