Let 16-year-olds visit sex shops and see explicit porn, say Lib Dems (in England)

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Romans828
Our kids need ADULT supervison and moral guidance. The kids of today deserve adults who will enforce rules and set reasonable expectations. Yes teenagers have always seeked to "discover" their own sexuality, but it was not something that the adults "helped" them to do. Some of the people here and their "responses" make me absolutely sick.

They problably were abused KIDS themselves or something because they dont have a damn clue.

ANYONE WHO would encourage 14 year olds to have sex, assist them in having access to porn or ANYONE who would like to have sex with 14-16 year olds themselves (as an adult) is beneath scum, and needs to BE TAUGHT A LESSON.

Heaven help the scum who tries to "teach" my children their "open ideas"...........

Sorry, I'm not clear. Are you ranting about the article, the unrelated discussion about sex education, or both?

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Originally posted by: Romans828
Our kids need ADULT supervison and moral guidance. The kids of today deserve adults who will enforce rules and set reasonable expectations. Yes teenagers have always seeked to "discover" their own sexuality, but it was not something that the adults "helped" them to do. Some of the people here and their "responses" make me absolutely sick.

They problably were abused KIDS themselves or something because they dont have a damn clue.

ANYONE WHO would encourage 14 year olds to have sex, assist them in having access to porn or ANYONE who would like to have sex with 14-16 year olds themselves (as an adult) is beneath scum, and needs to BE TAUGHT A LESSON.

Heaven help the scum who tries to "teach" my children their "open ideas"...........

I certainly won't argue with you on your points but I'll interject that there are quite a few 16 year olds who get married at that age. And getting married well there is nothing wrong with that at all. I also feel that noone should be having sex outside of marriage at all.Personally I feel like society is getting to the point where they are in old age before they get married. The average couple that weds nowadays is too old to have kids even. I think these kids should be getting married younger (average of 21) rather than later (average of 32 like people do today). By 16 a female has been biologically an adult for a few years most likely. There is nothing wrong with her getting married and raising a family then rather than opting for the feminist, have a career, etc. that leads to a life of materialism and sin.I wish schools were pushing some of these kids into becoming healthy family people rather than telling them they have to have some big city career and lots of sex and buy lots of new shiny things.I don;t think schools really bring up the option to these kids. "hey when you're 18 you can get married and start a family), except to tell them that that is somehow throwing their life away.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Officerdown

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Officerdown

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Officerdown
No, I wouldn?t. I'd rather have her not be prompted by the public school and go buy one herself. I just deem that the same public school teacher that cannot teach some kids how to read shouldn't teach kids about sex.

Moonbeam, I don't read minds.

Yup, but you do hide your real meaning evasively just like you unconsciously will teach your daughter to do.

Not really, but if you know me that well, what can I say?

All I know is that you made some hypothetical threat to a hypothetical boy having sex with your perhaps hypothetical 14 year old daughter saying that he would have a criminal record to deal with and I pointed out that this daughter might not tell you that she was having sex to which you replied she wouldn't have to meaning God knows what and to which I therefore remarked that perhaps you could read her mind and to which you answered no you don't read minds instead of dealing with the obvious issue which was how you would know if she wasn't talking. I then pointed out that your hypothetical 14 year old daughter may in fact be a clever as you and avoid the issue of sex similarly such that, again, you would never know and to which you reply that if I know you that well what can you say.

You have a number of options. You can pretend that you can determine how well I know you and that affects the quality of your response. You could say how it is you will know your hypothetical 14 year old daughter is having sex. (I worry about how closely you intend to keep tabs.) Or you could do nothing or other things. I don't know you, but I recognize evasion. One can recognize evasion without attaching an emotional connotation to it presence so don't go off half cocked with defensiveness.

Right, and I did say that. I wasn't evading things; you just weren?t asking the right questions. There are ways of finding things out. This really isn't that big of a deal, and I?m surprised you wrote such a long response and you wrote "hypothetical" four times. The guy would have a criminal record. For the most part if you sleep with someone under the age of 16 you are breaking the law. You must have not understood what I was trying to say, I wasn't defensive at all. I was just wondering why you took the time to type all that when it shouldn't have even upset you to the point where you had to write that long of a response.

One more thing. I'm a little bit slow at times, which you probably figured out already, but could you speak something other than Arab. I think all the times you said, "hypothetical" messed me up. Sorry.

I hadn't noticed you were slow and I understand very well about asking the right questions like what is is, and I also noticed that you now seem to be mind reading although earlier you said you couldn't, hypothetically, at least. I am no more upset than you are. You are quite calm cool and collected and yet you took all that time and concentration to right back to me even mentioning '"hypothetical" four times' and hypothetical twice. Also, when you want to argue a case with rigorous logic, which I hope you do, you will have to do better than say, "There are ways of finding things out" I know that very well. There are also lots of parents who know all about their kids right up to the day they find out one is going to be a Mom or Dad. There are ways of not finding out too. And I thought you were supposed to speak Arab when you speak to a Rube. Just kidding!

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Romans828
Our kids need ADULT supervison and moral guidance. The kids of today deserve adults who will enforce rules and set reasonable expectations. Yes teenagers have always seeked to "discover" their own sexuality, but it was not something that the adults "helped" them to do. Some of the people here and their "responses" make me absolutely sick.

They problably were abused KIDS themselves or something because they dont have a damn clue.

ANYONE WHO would encourage 14 year olds to have sex, assist them in having access to porn or ANYONE who would like to have sex with 14-16 year olds themselves (as an adult) is beneath scum, and needs to BE TAUGHT A LESSON.

Heaven help the scum who tries to "teach" my children their "open ideas"...........

Sorry, I'm not clear. Are you ranting about the article, the unrelated discussion about sex education, or both?

I think Romans828 is referring to how homosexuals are forcing all children to become gay, and whisking school children off to San Fran errr Oregon for gay marriages. And how half of Anandtech P&N are pedophiles because they can't recite the Nicine Creed.

Zephyr