Legalize Polygamy!

[Zebo]

http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...alize_polygamy_marriage_equality_for_all.html

It’s impossible to estimate exactly how many polygamous families live here, since they live their religious and sexual identities in secret. Academics suggest there are 50,000 to 100,000 people engaged in Muslim polygamy in the U.S., and there are thousands of fundamentalist Mormon polygamist families as well.

Great read. These Muslims/Mormons should not have to live in the shadow any longer and I see no reason not to with recent strides made for equal rights for homosexuals. It's a felony in most states now how ridiculous is that? And forget about benefits. Anyone hear of any recent cases or suits?

 

[Anarchist420]

and polyandry too

 

[Zebo]

Sure. All these forms of discrimination are based on Christian traditions and need to go.

 

[Oldgamer]

http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...alize_polygamy_marriage_equality_for_all.html



Great read. These Muslims/Mormons should not have to live in the shadow any longer and I see no reason not to with recent strides made for equal rights for homosexuals. It's a felony in most states now how ridiculous is that? And forget about benefits. Anyone hear of any recent cases or suits?

While we are at it, can we legalize prostitution too...? It would be nice to have our own red light district..lol

 

[Vic]

As long as only consenting adults are involved, I don't see any reason why not.
Any potential survivors benefits would need to be fractionally distributed among the partners though.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Sure. All these forms of discrimination are based on Christian traditions and need to go.

Lutherans and Anglicans in Africa are allowed to have multiple wives.
Catholic Priests get married
Churches try and fit into local traditions

 

[shira]

As long as only consenting adults are involved, I don't see any reason why not.
Any potential survivors benefits would need to be fractionally distributed among the partners though.

Companies would need to figure out how to handle benefits for such families, and the tax rules could get complicated.

But the major arguments against multi-spouse marriages are that polygamous communities very often lead to child abuse and unequal treatment of women. Under-age girls are forced to marry much older men in the community, ultimately leading to a lifestyle where the husband is the master and the wives compete for his attention and resources. It is very, very unlikely that a girl allowed to grow up and experience the outside world would agree to enter into such marriages, so the issue of "consent" is a very thorny one. Also, many boys are forced out of the community, to fend for themselves, in order to reduce competition for the females.

A very good first-person account by a woman who after 50 years was able to find the inner strength to extricate herself from the "Allred Group:"

Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies

 

[Zebo]

If you read the article all those myths are debunked by the feminist author.

Not to mention Muslim world has been doing it successfully for centuries. way longer than Mormons.

 

[Zebo]

While we are at it, can we legalize prostitution too...? It would be nice to have our own red light district..lol

OFC. Although I wouldn't frequent the place even if I were single. For me sex has a bit more intimacy.

 

[squarecut1]

If you read the article all those myths are debunked by the feminist author.

Not to mention Muslim world has been doing it successfully for centuries. way longer than Mormons.

Not just Muslim world. King Solomon had at least 700 wives.

Monogamy is not natural. There are a lot of societal benefit to polygamy too

 

[Zebo]

Not just Muslim world. King Solomon had at least 700 wives.

Monogamy is not natural. There are a lot of societal benefit to polygamy too

I dont know about natural or not. I can barley handle one. Its not about natural or not. It's about equal rights.

UK is slowly changing as Muslim population grows.

" United Kingdom: Foreign polygamous marriages grant some welfare benefits only, but this is being phased out with the introduction of Universal Credit.[25] Polygamy is treated as bigamy if a second marriage (or civil partnership) is contracted in the United Kingdom. No legal recognition is extended to spouses of subsequent marriages after the first marriage is recognised even when subsequent marriages are contracted abroad."

I just think it's a critical mass deal just like gays were to end that discrimination.. Maybe at 20% Muslim they will change for good.

 

[compuwiz1]

We should all be able to fuck whoever we want, whenever we want. It's only natural. Where I have a problem with it, is when families make it a point to reproduce for increased welfare. But, then again, a man with a hard on thinks he can support the whole world. The other thing is; how do you explain all this shit to your kids?

Can you imagine.....which wife do I have a booty call appt. with tonight?

 

[Zebo]

We should all be able to fuck whoever we want, whenever we want. It's only natural. Where I have a problem with it, is when families make it a point to reproduce for increased welfare. But, then again, a man with a hard on thinks he can support the whole world. The other thing is; how do you explain all this shit to your kids?

Can you imagine.....which wife do I have a booty call appt. with tonight?

Being married doesnt stop or slow the welfare expenditure. You get less money married on welfare if at all. Welfare actually discourages marriage. In fact what happens is they say they don't even who father is to get more money and state can't attach his wages.


This is an interesting case I'm just reading about: Has it all Homosexuality and Bigamy and polygamy. Trifecta of discrimination.
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Dutch authorities refused to annul the civil union which a Dutch man concluded with two women before a notary. The latter is morally distinct from the traditional polygamy of the Muslims because the two women involved also engage in a lesbian relationship (their “husband” said his wives were bisexual), making the case not only a trio-marriage but a homosexual relationship as well.

 

[squarecut1]

Man by nature is polygamous. Call it intelligent design or millions of years of evolution or anything else, the fact remains the same

That is one main reason affairs are so common. Men by nature can't be with just one person long term. The affairs in turn cause so much suffering and broken families

There are societies even today where men have families with multiple wives, all in harmony.

 

[Zebo]

Polygamous relationships has been a custom in America and Europe for hundreds of years.

It's called having a mistress.

We just discriminate on marriage. Totally hypocritical.

 

[BoberFett]

Companies would need to figure out how to handle benefits for such families, and the tax rules could get complicated.

But the major arguments against multi-spouse marriages are that polygamous communities very often lead to child abuse and unequal treatment of women. Under-age girls are forced to marry much older men in the community, ultimately leading to a lifestyle where the husband is the master and the wives compete for his attention and resources. It is very, very unlikely that a girl allowed to grow up and experience the outside world would agree to enter into such marriages, so the issue of "consent" is a very thorny one. Also, many boys are forced out of the community, to fend for themselves, in order to reduce competition for the females.

A very good first-person account by a woman who after 50 years was able to find the inner strength to extricate herself from the "Allred Group:"

Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies

You sound just like a homophobe.

 

[Zebo]

Man by nature is polygamous. Call it intelligent design or millions of years of evolution or anything else, the fact remains the same

That is one main reason affairs are so common. Men by nature can't be with just one person long term. The affairs in turn cause so much suffering and broken families

There are societies even today where men have families with multiple wives, all in harmony.

Yup and I believe women by nature are bisexual. Just give them a few drinks at a college party and watch. People show true selves drunk.

Therefore people are born polygamous.

But honestly that's neither here nor there IMO. Legally. It's about equality under law and marriage benefits for consensual committed adults.

 

[Veliko]

Polygamous relationships has been a custom in America and Europe for hundreds of years.

It's called having a mistress.

We just discriminate on marriage. Totally hypocritical.

Marriage offers certain legal rights that unmarried couples don't have so I don't see how anything here is hypocritical.

 

[brycejones]

As long as only consenting adults are involved, I don't see any reason why not.
Any potential survivors benefits would need to be fractionally distributed among the partners though.

Yep

 

[Veliko]

Man by nature is polygamous. Call it intelligent design or millions of years of evolution or anything else, the fact remains the same

That is one main reason affairs are so common. Men by nature can't be with just one person long term. The affairs in turn cause so much suffering and broken families

There are societies even today where men have families with multiple wives, all in harmony.

Yeah and there's men with women locked in their basement, all living in harmony.

I don't know why you think having an affair is something natural only to men - women cheat on their partners as well.

 

[Mursilis]

Companies would need to figure out how to handle benefits for such families, and the tax rules could get complicated.

But the major arguments against multi-spouse marriages are that polygamous communities very often lead to child abuse and unequal treatment of women. Under-age girls are forced to marry much older men in the community, ultimately leading to a lifestyle where the husband is the master and the wives compete for his attention and resources. It is very, very unlikely that a girl allowed to grow up and experience the outside world would agree to enter into such marriages, so the issue of "consent" is a very thorny one. Also, many boys are forced out of the community, to fend for themselves, in order to reduce competition for the females.

A very good first-person account by a woman who after 50 years was able to find the inner strength to extricate herself from the "Allred Group:"

Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies

Monogamous relationships still experience plenty of child and spousal abuse. Are the stats any different for poly relationships? If not, this is a non-issue.

 

[soulcougher73]

Anything consenting adults want to do is fine with me

 

[nehalem256]

Companies would need to figure out how to handle benefits for such families, and the tax rules could get complicated.

But the major arguments against multi-spouse marriages are that polygamous communities very often lead to child abuse and unequal treatment of women. Under-age girls are forced to marry much older men in the community, ultimately leading to a lifestyle where the husband is the master and the wives compete for his attention and resources. It is very, very unlikely that a girl allowed to grow up and experience the outside world would agree to enter into such marriages, so the issue of "consent" is a very thorny one. Also, many boys are forced out of the community, to fend for themselves, in order to reduce competition for the females.

A very good first-person account by a woman who after 50 years was able to find the inner strength to extricate herself from the "Allred Group:"

Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies

You know what else leads to child abuse? Single motherhood...

Children living in households with unrelated adults are nearly 50 times as likely to die of inflicted injuries as children living with two biological parents, according to a study of Missouri data published in the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics in 2005.

Children living in stepfamilies or with single parents are at higher risk of physical or sexual assault than children living with two biological or adoptive parents, according to several studies co-authored by David Finkelhor, director of the University of New Hampshire's Crimes Against Children Research Center.

Girls whose parents divorce face significantly higher risk of sexual assault, whether they live with their mother or father, according to research by Robin Wilson, a family law professor at Washington and Lee University.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21838575/...igher-risk-nontraditional-homes/#.U61vcPldWNG

So if polygamy is banned so should be single motherhood. Don't you agree?

 

[nehalem256]

Anything consenting adults want to do is fine with me

Consensual cannibalism?

Looking for a willing volunteer, Meiwes posted an advertisement on the website The Cannibal Cafe. Meiwes's post stated that he was "looking for a well-built 18- to 30-year-old to be slaughtered and then consumed".[3] Bernd Jürgen Armando Brandes, an engineer from Berlin, then answered the advertisement. Many other people responded to the advertisement, but backed out; Meiwes did not attempt to force them to do anything against their will.[4][5] As is known from a videotape the two made when they met on 9 March 2001 in Meiwes's home in the small town of Rotenburg, Meiwes amputated Brandes' penis and the two men attempted to eat the penis together before Brandes was killed. Brandes had insisted that Meiwes attempt to bite his penis off. This did not work and ultimately, Meiwes used a knife to remove Brandes' penis. Brandes apparently tried to eat some of his own penis raw, but could not because it was too tough and, as he put it, "chewy". Meiwes then fried the penis in a pan with salt, pepper, wine and garlic; he then fried it with some of Brandes' fat but by then it was too burned to be consumed. He then chopped it up into chunks and fed it to his dog

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

 

[Atreus21]

hee hee.