Legalize Polygamy!

[Veliko]

A thread about women and Nehalem simply couldn't resist posting his usual retarded nonsense!

 

[Atreus21]

A thread about women and Nehalem simply couldn't resist posting his usual retarded nonsense!

Yeah. I guess polygamy in the end really is another women's issue.

 

[Atreus21]

As long as only consenting adults are involved, I don't see any reason why not.

Incest?

 

[nehalem256]

A thread about women and Nehalem simply couldn't resist posting his usual retarded nonsense!

So wanting girls not to be sexually assaulted is "retarded nonsense"? D:

 

[Veliko]

No, you're a retarded nonsense.

 

[Atreus21]

No, you're a retarded nonsense.

That's sig-worthy right there.

 

[realibrad]

Companies would need to figure out how to handle benefits for such families, and the tax rules could get complicated.

But the major arguments against multi-spouse marriages are that polygamous communities very often lead to child abuse and unequal treatment of women. Under-age girls are forced to marry much older men in the community, ultimately leading to a lifestyle where the husband is the master and the wives compete for his attention and resources. It is very, very unlikely that a girl allowed to grow up and experience the outside world would agree to enter into such marriages, so the issue of "consent" is a very thorny one. Also, many boys are forced out of the community, to fend for themselves, in order to reduce competition for the females.

A very good first-person account by a woman who after 50 years was able to find the inner strength to extricate herself from the "Allred Group:"

Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies

How does polygamy cause abuse to children? I'm trying to wrap my head around possible causes, but all I come to are correlation. It would be like when people thought AIDS was only a gay disease because the people they saw getting infected were gay.

I don't want you to think this is an attack, but I cannot see an argument that polygamy leads to child/women abuse.

 

[nehalem256]

No, you're a retarded nonsense.

Pointing out liberal hypocrisy is isn't "retarded nonsense".

If you advocate banning polygamy because it leads to child abuse then you should also be for banning single motherhood, as it is also clearly bad for children.

Of course, what it comes down to is as usual liberals are only using children as hostages.

You oppose polygamy because you view it as benefiting men, whereas you view single motherhood as benefiting women; children be damned.

 

[squarecut1]

Men and women are fundamentally different.

Men by nature are designed to have multiple partners and spread their seeds. If that weren't so, we would have long been extinct as a specie.

Women on the other hand are primarily looking for emotional intimacy, safety, protection. Again, that too is innate to them by design or millions of years of evolution, where men have always been the ones to protect their family and tribes from non stop outside threats.

Regarding religion, yes Muslims practice polygamy in many parts of the Muslim world (from what I hear and read, it varies a lot according to regions) but bear in mind every prophet in the Judeo Christian Old Testament / New Testament was polygamous. It would have been unthinkable if he were not so. They are even uncovering evidence these days that Jesus was not single, as he has been made out to be. Can anyone imagine the scandal and outrage if a man was not married in those days? How can he be a regular respected member of the society, let alone a leader? Heck even today in America, two thousand years after Jesus, it is just about unimaginable for a single person to become President.

 

[Veliko]

Pointing out liberal hypocrisy is isn't "retarded nonsense".

If you advocate banning polygamy because it leads to child abuse then you should also be for banning single motherhood, as it is also clearly bad for children.

And there we have it, proof positive that you're a retarded nonsense.

 

[Veliko]

Men and women are fundamentally different.

Men by nature are designed to have multiple partners and spread their seeds. If that weren't so, we would have long been extinct as a specie.

Women on the other hand are primarily looking for emotional intimacy, safety, protection. Again, that too is innate to them by design or millions of years of evolution, where men have always been the ones to protect their family and tribes from non stop outside threats.

Beep beep!

Nonsense evolutionary theory ahoy!

 

[dank69]

How does polygamy cause abuse to children? I'm trying to wrap my head around possible causes, but all I come to are correlation. It would be like when people thought AIDS was only a gay disease because the people they saw getting infected were gay.

I don't want you to think this is an attack, but I cannot see an argument that polygamy leads to child/women abuse.

Probably has more to do with the religious aspects rather than the polygamy itself.

 

[squarecut1]

There is a reason why you see women all around desperately longing for "commitment", which is so hard for them to get from men. A lot more men would be able to provide that commitment if polygamy was normal and accepted. Good for men, women and even more importantly, the children.

 

[Veliko]

There is a reason why you see women all around desperately longing for "commitment", which is so hard for them to get from men. A lot more men would be able to provide that commitment if polygamy was normal and accepted. Good for men, women and even more importantly, the children.

What on earth are you on about?

Who are these sexually rampant men having sex with if women will only go with those who will commit to them long term?

 

[soulcougher73]

Consensual cannibalism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

Whatever floats your boat man.

 

[realibrad]

Probably has more to do with the religious aspects rather than the polygamy itself.

Then the person would be wrong no? She (I think poster is a girl) would be mistaking the side effect as the cause, when really the cause is something else driving people no?

 

[BoberFett]

How does polygamy cause abuse to children? I'm trying to wrap my head around possible causes, but all I come to are correlation. It would be like when people thought AIDS was only a gay disease because the people they saw getting infected were gay.

I don't want you to think this is an attack, but I cannot see an argument that polygamy leads to child/women abuse.

Shira should be attacked as the hypocritical fool is he is. He prances around the forum screaming "GLOBAL WARMING RIGHTIES LOL EVIDENCE SCIENCE COST BENEFIT!!!" but as we see here, he's the first to run to "But polygamy makes me feel icky" as an excuse. He's no different than a homophobe or global warming denier.

 

[piasabird]

Having multiple wives creates a system where abuse of women and children can flourish. I think a lot of men have multiple wives so they can rob the cradle so to speak. We just saw this in the last Mormon sect with Mr Jeffs? He was all about controlling children and women and marrying underage girls. It is all a kind of slippery slope. Under Sharia law the idea is that you can have up to 3 wives if you first wife has no offspring, but men and others tend to abuse their power.

The other problem might be an out of control population growth where all your wives are on welfare. Each woman could be on welfare for 3 children and if you have 3 or 4 wives they could earn enough to buy you a new house. This is all kind of complicated.

I like to look at this as civilization run amuck. Sure it might work but we would need to look at things like welfare and parental responsibilities in a whole new light.

 

[piasabird]

In a way men are doing this right now when they sleep around with multiple women. In today's society no one bothers to get married anyway.

 

[BoberFett]

Having multiple wives creates a system where abuse of women and children can flourish. I think a lot of men have multiple wives so they can rob the cradle so to speak. We just saw this in the last Mormon sect with Mr Jeffs? He was all about controlling children and women and marrying underage girls. It is all a kind of slippery slope. Under Sharia law the idea is that you can have up to 3 wives if you first wife has no offspring, but men and others tend to abuse their power.

The other problem might be an out of control population growth where all your wives are on welfare. Each woman could be on welfare for 3 children and if you have 3 or 4 wives they could earn enough to buy you a new house. This is all kind of complicated.

I like to look at this as civilization run amuck. Sure it might work but we would need to look at things like welfare and parental responsibilities in a whole new light.

So much stupid, I don't know where to begin.

 

[Zorba]

I don't really have an issue with the idea of Poly marriages, but the entire marriage legal framework would have to massively change, because right now marriage is clearly a contract between two people. In poly marriages, it would be one contract with multiple parties, so how do you handle divorce, shared debts, properties rights, etc. If the man dies are the women still married? If one women leaves, does the whole marriage end?

Also all you commitment phobic men, I have news for you. Basically no normal woman is going to agree to be in a poly marriage with 1 guy and multiple wives. What would actually happen is 1 women with multiple men, because lets face it tits attract way more men than dick attracts women. So if poly marriages actually happen, you will probably end up with even less sex than you currently have.

There is also nothing from stopping people from have open marriages/swinging now or even having a live in second "wife." There is just no legal framework, currently for allowing more than 2 people to enter into a marriage contract.

Which this is why poly and same-sex marriages are not actually all that related. SSM would use the same legal framework that exists today, they just want access to it. Poly would require a whole new legal framework that no one currently has access to, so everyone is seen equal under the law.

All you anti-SSM people routing for polymarriages to attack SSM better watch out though, you may just get what you wish for.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I have enough trouble with one wife, why the hell would I want another one?

 

[nehalem256]

Having multiple wives creates a system where abuse of women and children can flourish. I think a lot of men have multiple wives so they can rob the cradle so to speak. We just saw this in the last Mormon sect with Mr Jeffs? He was all about controlling children and women and marrying underage girls. It is all a kind of slippery slope. Under Sharia law the idea is that you can have up to 3 wives if you first wife has no offspring, but men and others tend to abuse their power.

The other problem might be an out of control population growth where all your wives are on welfare. Each woman could be on welfare for 3 children and if you have 3 or 4 wives they could earn enough to buy you a new house. This is all kind of complicated.

I like to look at this as civilization run amuck. Sure it might work but we would need to look at things like welfare and parental responsibilities in a whole new light.

Which of course is also all true for single mothers. So if that is the argument for banning polygamy why is single motherhood still legal?

 

[nehalem256]

I don't really have an issue with the idea of Poly marriages, but the entire marriage legal framework would have to massively change, because right now marriage is clearly a contract between two people. In poly marriages, it would be one contract with multiple parties, so how do you handle divorce, shared debts, properties rights, etc. If the man dies are the women still married? If one women leaves, does the whole marriage end?

Well or you could handle it as multiple contracts.

Selling a car is clearly a contract between 2 people. Yet somehow society manages to allow people to sell more than one car.

Also all you commitment phobic men, I have news for you. Basically no normal woman is going to agree to be in a poly marriage with 1 guy and multiple wives. What would actually happen is 1 women with multiple men, because lets face it tits attract way more men than dick attracts women. So if poly marriages actually happen, you will probably end up with even less sex than you currently have.

Apparently you have never heard of a mistress.

Also, I could easily use the same argument for same-sex marriage. No normal man is going to want to take in the butt.

 

[ElFenix]

If you read the article all those myths are debunked by the feminist author.

Not to mention Muslim world has been doing it successfully for centuries. way longer than Mormons.

have you seen what kind of shit-hole that place is? if i'm wanting a successful society that's the last place i want to model. or, maybe the first, so i can figure out what not to do.