Left, right, or Center? Rate a poster above yours

[HumblePie]

Since I'm I'm first to go, I'll rate myself. Here are my stances.

My Right side beliefs:
* Pro Guns
* Skeptical of Global Warming
* Harsh and capital punishment for criminals
* Believe in a strong military for defense.
* Support of foreign sanctions of ME until they remove their tyrannous leaders and terrorist associations
* Do not believe in gay marriages from a religious standpoint.
* Believe the government should be as fiscally sound when it can be and even try to save surpluses for when it can't be.
* For school choice like charter schools
* Against labor unions
* Only tax what is needed, nothing more.
* Harsher penalties for illegal immigrants (especially after due process is done to find they are illegal)

My Left side beliefs:
* For single payer health care, or non profit health insurance laws.
* Secular. (ie non religious)
* Gays should be in the military.
* Allow "civil unions" to be the legal status for gays or married people living together and wanting to file jointly.
* All for regulation and enforcement of unethical business practices.
* For nuclear and alternative energy.
* Forcing everyone to get an education regardless.
* Do not believe in trickle down economics.
* Higher taxes for wealthy.
* Removal of tax shelters and or tax loopholes used by the rich.
* Government needs to be more forceful against corporate collusion.
* For stem cell research.

For my "compromised" beliefs:
* While I am for government social programs such as welfare to a degree, I think it needs more stringent standards to get people off welfare. I don't think anyone who's intention it is to remain on welfare eventually has no benefits and trying to circumvent that will lead to jail.
* I think pollution is a problem, but I have yet to be convinced it is leading to "global warming." I'm all for cleaning up the environment, but against dictating government policy based on something yet to be proven.
* I believe in using regulation to keep businesses ethical, but I think regulations should just be ethical guidelines and laws to be enforced. I don't believe in over regulation where it hurts us such as subsidizing sugar and regulating prices to keep prices artificially high.
* I know that government is needed to maintain programs that no business will provide because it is not profitable, and because it is needed by everyone.
* Pro choice up to the second trimester. I'm against any form of late term abortion and view it as murder at that point.



There are a few issues I know I am missing and I have stances that lean one way or the other. Many of my stances though may go one way, but are restricted by the other side and are thus "compromised" because they are a mixture of both. Meaning I think the current answer to a problem from either side is way to extreme, but see if points are taken from both sides then a better answer can be found.

Feel free to post your views on political "policies" and rate the person above you. Since I have no one to rate yet, I give myself a Center.

 

[StageLeft]

I match more of your stances than not so I give you a center also.

 

[Carmen813]

From politicalcompass.org. According to them I am closest to Ghandi.

For Reference:

I consider myself center left, but that's probably not accurate.

 

[Sinsear]

Reading what skoorb has to say over the years, I place him in the center.

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[OutHouse]

sinsear = markist revolutionary.












i kid. i have no idea on where you are on political issues.

 

[nick1985]

Me - Pro guns, small federal government, powerful military, strong states rights, pro-choice, pro-stem cell research.


outhouse - leans right

 

[shiner]

Me - Pro guns, small federal government, powerful military, strong states rights, pro-choice, pro-stem cell research.


outhouse - leans right

nick1985 is a fabulous dancer, looks good in sub $200 jeans and politically is what I would consider a Centrist with right leanings.

 

[DesiPower]

I am all right side except pro gun and pro life.
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If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain

 

[MikeMike]

 

[HumblePie]

Yah, I did that, but I found the questions not exactly representative of policies for either side. I found many of the questions almost strangely slanted. An example of my friend is this. "Do you like killing babies?" To see if you are pro-choice or not. I think 99% of sane adults would answer no to that question, but that doesn't mean they aren't pro choice. That means they don't see a zygote as a baby yet as I don't.

Also, this isn't a thread for what you think your compass is, but what other people on this forum think YOU are.

Example, I still think nick is mostly right-side from what posts I've read of his. I also think Skoorb is a bit more left than he thinks he is.

 

[blackangst1]

What say you? hehe

 

[JSt0rm]

^^ neocon

 

[nick1985]

nick1985 is a fabulous dancer, looks good in sub $200 jeans and politically is what I would consider a Centrist with right leanings.

/blush

 

[blackangst1]

^^ neocon

Wow...interesting. I dont support or resemble what most around think of as a neocon. Interesting!

 

[daniel49]

Clowns to the left of me. Jokers to the right.
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Steve Miller Band

 

[Moonbeam]

From politicalcompass.org. According to them I am closest to Ghandi.

For Reference:

I consider myself center left, but that's probably not accurate.

You are definitely the winner. Anybody different than the Ghandi place is an unenlightened idiot though I should probably take the test before I say that.

 

[Red Dawn]

Clowns to the left of me. Jokers to the right.
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.
Steve Miller Band

No, Stealers Wheel.

 

[blackangst1]

No, Stealers Wheel.

Wasnt it Gerry Rafferty who did the vocals on that one?

 

[dmcowen674]

Here are my stances.

* Pro Gun
* Global Warming - what do you expect when you clear cut a planet?
* Harsh and capital punishment for criminals
* Believe in a strong military for defense.
* Support of crushing ME tyrannous leaders and terrorist associations
* All people can marry.
* Of course government should be as fiscally sound.
* Schools - get rid of NCLB
* For labor unions but regulate them.
* Only tax what is needed, nothing more.
* Illegal immigrants - send them back home
* For single payer health care, or non profit health insurance laws.
* Secular. (ie non religious)
* Gays should be in the military.
* All for regulation and enforcement of unethical business practices.
* For nuclear and alternative energy.
* Do not believe in trickle down economics.
* Higher taxes for wealthy.
* Removal of tax shelters and or tax loopholes used by the rich.
* Government needs to be more forceful against corporate collusion.
* For stem cell research.
* Welfare to a degree, I think it needs more stringent standards to get people off welfare. I don't think anyone who's intention it is to remain on welfare eventually has no benefits and trying to circumvent that will lead to jail.
* Pro choice up to the second trimester. I'm against any form of late term abortion and view it as murder at that point.

 

[sandorski]

Did the test(one people are posting or one basically the same) years ago and came out Ghandi Left/Libertarian.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Did the test(one people are posting or one basically the same) years ago and came out Ghandi Left/Libertarian.

Lefty bastard!



I come out a liberal libertarian on those tests.

 

[sandorski]

Lefty bastard!



I come out a liberal libertarian on those tests.

Oh Hi Comrade!

 

[HumblePie]

Lefty bastard!



I come out a liberal libertarian on those tests.

LOL, and by what I've read and your own admission you are right leaning.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

LOL, and by what I've read and your own admission you are right leaning.

Well there are degrees. I believe that it is proper for a government to have a focused social safety net. For example, I don't believe that a house ought to be foreclosed because someone loses a job. Now if they don't get back to work after a while then that's another matter. The degree and length of such a program would be subject to debate.

I also recognize that some people simply can't work and haven't relatives which have the financial resources to suck it up. Think someone severely physically or mentally handicapped. Ok, I'll pay taxes for that. I'll also shell out money on a medicaid program which works. That's defined as putting a broom and shovel or whatever in the hands of those who can do something (obviously that's a metaphor for doing something useful). The point of such a program is that it should be run with the idea of downsizing and going back to those in need, not those who want to be on the dole because Momma was.

We can't practically say "get a job" when there isn't one, or when the person is ignorant in the true sense. That does not obligate us to continue that situation in perpetuity.

Guns? I'm firmly in the pro gun column. Abortion? I don't like it, because too often it's merely retroactive birth control. Does that mean I want it overturned? No, because that's not the societal consensus. I'll defer to the rule of law on that issue.

What people do in their private lives is not dependent on my opinion of what is right or wrong. I still reserve the right of discernment, but not control. That of course is limited by the "your right to swing your fist ends at the beginning of my nose" philosophy.

So to sum it up-
I don't believe government ought to force someone's morality. I teach my kids what's right or wrong. Keep your damn hands off them.

I think that people need to take care of themselves and their own, I recognize that at times it needs to be involved. In all cases the government derives it's power from the people and rules with our consent. "We The People" have a government to serve us, not the reverse. The controlling document in all this is the Constitution, and it was made hard to change for a reason. That is to provide restraints on government, and keep it from overpowering us. Dems and Reps have often abused it, but that doesn't make it right.

Government is much like the One Ring. It can be tempting to bring it in for many good reasons, but once it takes over something there is no going back.

Caveat Emptor.

Oh, I'm a Conservative now, because I don't swallow what was being pushed as "health care reform". That was merely who controls the purse strings. I also don't care for many things this administration has done. I don't think that government is good at a great many things, and having seen how things work up close and personal I have reason to feel this way.

Now two years ago I was a liberal because I believed that Iraq was a cluster that we never should have gotten involved, and I felt that when no WMDs were found (and it was clearly stated that they were there), the Republicans should have held their representatives accountable. Instead, they circled the wagons. They did so when we arrested a US citizen for years without proper legal counsel or habeas corpus. That was clearly unconstitutional, although all sorts of lame excuses were made.

Things are right or wrong on their own, and making excuses for them because they are "good in the long run" is abhorrent to me, especially when the ends justifying the means is often determined by whether there is a D or R involved.

That's how I think.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Hayabusa Rider

Center-Right


For me:
*Anti-Federalism (prefer state and local government, although we do need a central bank and several federal agencies, enforcing the 10th amendment would be a good start)
*Anti-Imperialism (anti-war)
*Anti-Death-Penalty (determined at state level, but I find it distasteful, although it might be necessary in some cases)
*Drug Legalization (leave it to individual states to decide what they want legal and illegal within their borders. I would legalize marijuana, although I never plan to smoke. Crack, meth and hardcore drugs would stay banned as they are too dangerous to society)
*Pro-Business (against corporate welfare, mostly free market with some regulations to maintain competition)
*Pro-Gun (mostly, I do not want to give the criminally insane firearms)
*Social Conservatism (although I would leave it to the individual states to decide )
*Fiscal Conservatism (balanced budget and elimination of debt, reduced government spending on social welfare, military, etc.)
*Pro-Life (abortion only if the mother's life is in danger or if there is a significant risk of birth defects, but I would leave it to the individual states to decide )
*Pro-Tort-Reform (state level, I will concern myself with state-level health-care once the lawyers are pacified)
*Proportional Federal income taxation

For the record, I consider myself a paleocon / Conservative Democrat.