Lebron James...MVP

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Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

 

[Reckoner]

Are they giving him a pet crab?

 

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Drako
Should have been Dwyane Wade 🙂.

Oh come on now.

Bron lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks AND they had the best record in the league.

Lebron is having one of the greatest seasons for a player, ever. As good, and valuable, as Kobe and Wade have been, Lebron has been even better.

Yeah right, I love the Lakers as much as the next guy, but even I give the MVP to Wade. He carried the heat single handed to the playoffs, and almost took out the Hawks (which, btw, was a shitty series).

Most Valuable Player TO HIS TEAM. Take away Lebron, you have a decent team. Take away Kobe, you still have a very good team. Take away Wade, you got last place in the Least.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: jjsole


Loyalty and his roots mean too much to him. If his relationship is still great with management in cleveland, ie they are a championship contender and continue getting better, no reason he'd go to a rebuilding franchise, especially one that doesn't play defense and is run by Dolan. For most people it might be a no-brainer to leave, but as much as he talks that's not his makeup.

Cleveland was shitty when he joined them. The other teams have the MONEY to build a competitive team. See: Celtics.

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: HopJokey

Originally posted by: peritusONE

Originally posted by: her209
How many times has the winner of the MVP lost in the NBA Finals?

#1 Kobe lost last year.

Allen Iverson - 2001

EDIT: Had to verify this one:

Magic Johnson - 1989

EDIT 2:
Larry Bird - 1985

Karl Malone lost to MJ when he won MVP as well I believe.

Edit: According to Wikipedia he won the MVP in 1997 (also in 1999) the year they lost to the Bulls in the Finals the first time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Malone

Yep, Malone was the first one that popped into my head.

KT

david robinson - 1995, destroyed by olajuwon

 

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Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Yeah I get that, but I'm driving home the fact that we shouldn't be paying them so much to play a sport. I love basketball, football, and soccer, and I'd hate to see professional leagues die, but I've never been able to accept how much they get paid.

If peeps took some of the money they spend on the NBA and direct it toward teachers, counselors, managers, engineers; basically anyone who helps improve society, then maybe the best and brightest wouldn't be so quick to go to law school and i-banking, and instead pursue careers in fields that are in need.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

Tiger Woods' retirement fund could be worth a billion alone.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Epic Fail

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

Tiger Woods' retirement fund could be worth a billion alone.

Yeah, pretty sure Tiger was the first billion dollar athlete.

KT

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

His income last year was over $40m...

/edit: last summer forbes estimated it at $38m

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Drako
Should have been Dwyane Wade 🙂.

Oh come on now.

Bron lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks AND they had the best record in the league.

Lebron is having one of the greatest seasons for a player, ever. As good, and valuable, as Kobe and Wade have been, Lebron has been even better.

Yeah right, I love the Lakers as much as the next guy, but even I give the MVP to Wade. He carried the heat single handed to the playoffs, and almost took out the Hawks (which, btw, was a shitty series).

Most Valuable Player TO HIS TEAM. Take away Lebron, you have a decent team. Take away Kobe, you still have a very good team. Take away Wade, you got last place in the Least.

But see, to the casual fans of the NBA, LeBroom is LeBest. Anyone who quotes best team in the League is fucking blind, if the Cavs were in the Western Conference, their record would be the same or worse than the Lakers.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Drako
Should have been Dwyane Wade 🙂.

Oh come on now.

Bron lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks AND they had the best record in the league.

Lebron is having one of the greatest seasons for a player, ever. As good, and valuable, as Kobe and Wade have been, Lebron has been even better.

Yeah right, I love the Lakers as much as the next guy, but even I give the MVP to Wade. He carried the heat single handed to the playoffs, and almost took out the Hawks (which, btw, was a shitty series).

Most Valuable Player TO HIS TEAM. Take away Lebron, you have a decent team. Take away Kobe, you still have a very good team. Take away Wade, you got last place in the Least.

That's not how the MVP has been awarded for the last.... ever? LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and his numbers back that up. He's better than Kobe and Wade by a wide margin. He deserves the NBA's MVP, which doesn't go to the most valuable player, but to the best (or usually the flashiest). There have been exceptions, but most people assume that MVP = best player, not most valuable to his team.

Plus, as good as Wade has been this season, he only really turned it on 1/2 way through. LeBron has been putting up monster numbers since the opening tip.

 

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Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

Um, what's your point, his income potential is limited to his nba contract?...

Yeah, endorsements could shoot him up there.

Fucker wants to be "global". I'd rather LeBron end his career and go away quietly, but still maintain a presence. Sort of like Jordan. He's still making money and stuff, but I don't see him every damn day.

Plus, I'm hoping Derrick Rose ends up on the Lakers and teams up with Bynum to wreak havoc in the Best and deny Lebron a championship.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

His income last year was over $40m...

There a max that can be earned in the NBA - he'd have to make that up in endorsements. He'd have to score like 960million in endorsements to be a billion dollar athlete.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

endorsements.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Everyone seems to forget the Rockets. Well let me tell you they are going to destroy the Lakers and Cavs in 4 straight. You read it here first! 😀

 

[ballmode]

MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

His income last year was over $40m...

There a max that can be earned in the NBA - he'd have to make that up in endorsements. He'd have to score like 960million in endorsements to be a billion dollar athlete.

Tiger is making >100m/yr.

 

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Drako
Should have been Dwyane Wade 🙂.

Oh come on now.

Bron lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks AND they had the best record in the league.

Lebron is having one of the greatest seasons for a player, ever. As good, and valuable, as Kobe and Wade have been, Lebron has been even better.

Yeah right, I love the Lakers as much as the next guy, but even I give the MVP to Wade. He carried the heat single handed to the playoffs, and almost took out the Hawks (which, btw, was a shitty series).

Most Valuable Player TO HIS TEAM. Take away Lebron, you have a decent team. Take away Kobe, you still have a very good team. Take away Wade, you got last place in the Least.

That's not how the MVP has been awarded for the last.... ever? LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and his numbers back that up. He's better than Kobe and Wade by a wide margin. He deserves the NBA's MVP, which doesn't go to the most valuable player, but to the best (or usually the flashiest). There have been exceptions, but most people assume that MVP = best player, not most valuable to his team.

Plus, as good as Wade has been this season, he only really turned it on 1/2 way through. LeBron has been putting up monster numbers since the opening tip.

Kobe is the best player in the NBA.

LeBron is right there, but until he gets a midrange game and either makes more three-pointers or stops taking so much, he's getting second fiddle in my book. Note that this is not a fact, I'm stating opinion here.

Kobe's vice is that he can get caught up in the "me me" mode and leave wide open teammates standing there while he goes up for a shot while triple teamed.

LeBron's vice is that he lacks the killer instinct that Kobe has, that Jordan had, that Bird had. LeBron, in his OWN words, wants to be a billion dollar athlete. That's not going to happen on the court. Thus, he wants to ENTERTAIN more than he wants to win championships. Everyone knows he wants to win A CHAMPIONSHIP, but Kobe wants to win ALL OF THE CHAMPIONSHIPS.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Reckoner
Lebron wants to be the first billion dollar athlete... he's headin' to the Knicks. Fo Sho....... Fo Sho....

He won't make it. I hope he doesn't make it. We don't need billion dollar ATHLETES.

He simply a masterful entertainer and business/salesman. If he's getting a billion, that means he's made far more than that for others.

Um..there is a max contract in the NBA, no?

His income last year was over $40m...

There a max that can be earned in the NBA - he'd have to make that up in endorsements. He'd have to score like 960million in endorsements to be a billion dollar athlete.

Tiger is making >100m/yr.

Tiger has 1/10th of what LeBroom would need to break 1billion. Unless there are a lot of STUPID companies out there, and the recession continues into next year (READ: The NBA will LOWER the salary cap again) then it will be more of a stretch for LeBroom to hit his goal.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
That's not how the MVP has been awarded for the last.... ever? LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and his numbers back that up. He's better than Kobe and Wade by a wide margin. He deserves the NBA's MVP, which doesn't go to the most valuable player, but to the best (or usually the flashiest). There have been exceptions, but most people assume that MVP = best player, not most valuable to his team.

Plus, as good as Wade has been this season, he only really turned it on 1/2 way through. LeBron has been putting up monster numbers since the opening tip.

the term MVP is a misnomer. they should just call it best player in the league, which i agree is lebron.
wade is far more valuable to his team than lbj is to the cavs.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: actuarial

Originally posted by: Drako
Should have been Dwyane Wade 🙂.

Oh come on now.

Bron lead his team in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks AND they had the best record in the league.

Lebron is having one of the greatest seasons for a player, ever. As good, and valuable, as Kobe and Wade have been, Lebron has been even better.

Yeah right, I love the Lakers as much as the next guy, but even I give the MVP to Wade. He carried the heat single handed to the playoffs, and almost took out the Hawks (which, btw, was a shitty series).

Most Valuable Player TO HIS TEAM. Take away Lebron, you have a decent team. Take away Kobe, you still have a very good team. Take away Wade, you got last place in the Least.

That's not how the MVP has been awarded for the last.... ever? LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and his numbers back that up. He's better than Kobe and Wade by a wide margin. He deserves the NBA's MVP, which doesn't go to the most valuable player, but to the best (or usually the flashiest). There have been exceptions, but most people assume that MVP = best player, not most valuable to his team.

Plus, as good as Wade has been this season, he only really turned it on 1/2 way through. LeBron has been putting up monster numbers since the opening tip.

Kobe is the best player in the NBA.

LeBron is right there, but until he gets a midrange game and either makes more three-pointers or stops taking so much, he's getting second fiddle in my book. Note that this is not a fact, I'm stating opinion here.

Kobe's vice is that he can get caught up in the "me me" mode and leave wide open teammates standing there while he goes up for a shot while triple teamed.

LeBron's vice is that he lacks the killer instinct that Kobe has, that Jordan had, that Bird had. LeBron, in his OWN words, wants to be a billion dollar athlete. That's not going to happen on the court. Thus, he wants to ENTERTAIN more than he wants to win championships. Everyone knows he wants to win A CHAMPIONSHIP, but Kobe wants to win ALL OF THE CHAMPIONSHIPS.

Eh, LeBroom is much more selfish than Kobe - Kobe's "me me" mode isn't that frequent anymore. He has a tendency to trust Gasol & Fischer more.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
That's not how the MVP has been awarded for the last.... ever? LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and his numbers back that up. He's better than Kobe and Wade by a wide margin. He deserves the NBA's MVP, which doesn't go to the most valuable player, but to the best (or usually the flashiest). There have been exceptions, but most people assume that MVP = best player, not most valuable to his team.

Plus, as good as Wade has been this season, he only really turned it on 1/2 way through. LeBron has been putting up monster numbers since the opening tip.

the term MVP is a misnomer. they should just call it best player in the league, which i agree is lebron.
wade is far more valuable to his team than lbj is to the cavs.

they should actually call it the MPP - Most Popular Player. MVP & All-Stars should be voted by the player base, not the fans or media.

 

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Originally posted by: dougp

Eh, LeBroom is much more selfish than Kobe - Kobe's "me me" mode isn't that frequent anymore. He has a tendency to trust Gasol & Fischer more.

Haha, well now it's more like "okay first and second quarter, I'm going to let these guys get their numbers. If we need a buffer zone I'll step it up in the third and get my shots. As long as we got double digits going into the 4th, I can take it easy."

The problem is, when the Lakers get behind, all of a sudden Kobe goes into "man I gotta bring them back". Instead, he should rally them and say "first off, lock down on D, second, we'll keep running our offense".

The triangle works. Phil and Jordan proved that. Getting behind is no big deal, but Kobe will sometimes feel he has to carry the entire team.