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LeBron James - "Being black in America is tough."

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alien42 said:
it's also about an anti-pc and hateful trend that is promoted by our President.

i'm not saying the problem ever went away, but Trump has emboldened the xenophobic, bigoted and racist radicals.
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Says the people who actually promote individuals being classified by race, gender, political and sexual orientation.
 
vi edit said:
Why would a rival fan spray a racial slur? That makes zero sense. You want to get under his skin call him something like choker or choke artist. The timing is suspect for sure...but the message? Doesn't add up to me. Golden State roster is 14/15 black players.
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Because it takes the focus of Lebron James off of the game literally a day before he's about to play. It's not really about the guy being racist as much as it is trying to get under the skin and mental game of LBJ IMO.

I am not black so I can't say this as fact, but I'm pretty sure calling a black person the N word is about the worst possible thing you can call them regardless of who they are. I'm pretty sure Lebron has been called a choke artist and not-clutch more than he can even count, and he's used to it. I'm not sure how many times someone has spray painted the N word on his front gate but I'd assume it is probably less.
 
purbeast0 said:
Because it takes the focus of Lebron James off of the game literally a day before he's about to play. It's not really about the guy being racist as much as it is trying to get under the skin and mental game of LBJ IMO.

I am not black so I can't say this as fact, but I'm pretty sure calling a black person the N word is about the worst possible thing you can call them regardless of who they are. I'm pretty sure Lebron has been called a choke artist and not-clutch more than he can even count, and he's used to it. I'm not sure how many times someone has spray painted the N word on his front gate but I'd assume it is probably less.
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I guess I'm just not able to muster up that level of hatred towards a basketball player to connect those dots.
 
Roflmouth said:
Yes, LeBron James, lecture the rest of us about our white privilege, please!
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One fun aspect of white privilege is that there's enough white voices in popular society that when someone with a bit of a voice to speak up on white issues does so, it can reach into society's discourse. See for example how the coverage of the opioid epidemic and how all it took was ravaging middle class white communities to shift the discussion from punishment to actually dealing with the problem.

Meanwhile, the black people who get to the point where their voice can reach the national discourse can be ignored by the intellectually dishonest because anyone who gets to that point is no longer poor and is therefore somehow unable to speak about issues no matter where they started.

brandonbull said:
Says the people who actually promote individuals being classified by race, gender, political and sexual orientation.
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We already are. We live in a society that had an actual literal race-based caste system less than half a century ago. That's not a full lifespan. We have a society where the biases of that period linger on and your idea is to just plug your ears, cover your eyes and pretend it's not all happening. You lack the basic courage to look on injustice and ask what needs to be done to fight it rather than just trying to sweep it under the rug.
 
vi edit said:
I guess I'm just not able to muster up that level of hatred towards a basketball player to connect those dots.
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There have been plenty of examples of people doing terrible things in sports. Going back to the beginning of them. Just my opinion, I think they did it for that reason, look how much attention it is getting. Taking his mind off the series, matchups, watching tape, etc. This is all the buzz right now. Just my opinion, but the timing is highly suspect, and why I think that is the reason. Hopefully it doesnt work. Whatever the reason was, there is never any justification for using the word. I detest it in all forms, even from black to black.
 
imo, who cares? This is probably stupid high school kids trying to mess with L.J. before the game. Spray painting the n-word on a wall isn't a symptom of deeper societal problems, it's just cowardly troublemakers trying to get a rise out of someone.

The Brentwood security team needs to step up its game. Buying into a neighborhood that expensive means you shouldn't have to worry about outsiders defacing your property. Where's the surveillance video, where were the security patrols?
 
With the amount of money he has you could spray paint whatever you wanted on my pearly gates and i wouldnt care. I mean sure it sucks, but meh. Who cares. "I'm rich, bitch!" is all id say if i was him 😛
 
soulcougher73 said:
With the amount of money he has you could spray paint whatever you wanted on my pearly gates and i wouldnt care. I mean sure it sucks, but meh. Who cares. "I'm rich, bitch!" is all id say if i was him 😛
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In that way I can see how it's even more infuriating for him. He's about as successful a person as you can be in this world but he still can't escape America's racism. No matter how rich or how successful he becomes he's always going to have people who look down on him for being black. That's got to really piss him off.

Hell, just look at people in this thread who decided that it wasn't racism, it was just sports fans trying to get in his head... based on literally nothing. It might be that, but several people here have just basically dismissed it out of hand because it's easier to do that and ignore things than deal with the huge amount of racism that's still present in our society.
 
fskimospy said:
In that way I can see how it's even more infuriating for him. He's about as successful a person as you can be in this world but he still can't escape America's racism. No matter how rich or how successful he becomes he's always going to have people who look down on him for being black. That's got to really piss him off.

Hell, just look at people in this thread who decided that it wasn't racism, it was just sports fans trying to get in his head... based on literally nothing. It might be that, but several people here have just basically dismissed it out of hand because it's easier to do that and ignore things than deal with the huge amount of racism that's still present in our society.
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It's amazing how people can look racism in the eye and just decide that it has to be something else. The worst is that the something else doesn't actually mean that there isn't racism involved, they just need something that they can stop thinking with that isn't overtly racist.

Let's accept for a second the premise that the idea was entirely sports related to throw LeBron off his game. Okay. So to do so, somebody defaces his house with a word that exists as a symbol of racism that holds LeBron to be less of a person because of his skin color. Why did they choose that word? Why does that word have that power? Would a similar scenario even be possible for a white athlete?

The answer to all of these points directly at us still living in a racist society. But we've got people repeating to themselves that it's possibly sports motivated just so they don't have to own up to it. I'd say more than anything, that's one of the most universal forms of white privilege. You can disengage from racism, pretend it doesn't exist and not pay any price in your life. If you aren't, you'll be reminded of it daily and be expected to play by its rules.
 
Yet, they still want to hide it and when you pull and unravel a thread from this web of unrighteousness and speak on it you become the threat.

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alien42 said:
it's also about an anti-pc and hateful trend that is promoted by our President.

i'm not saying the problem ever went away, but Trump has emboldened the xenophobic, bigoted and racist radicals.
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How can anyone call the movement anti-PC after the wave of crying we heard about Kathy Griffin though?
 
xthetenth said:
It's amazing how people can look racism in the eye and just decide that it has to be something else. The worst is that the something else doesn't actually mean that there isn't racism involved, they just need something that they can stop thinking with that isn't overtly racist.
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In basically every single thread on here about something involving race people always say the same thing, that while they acknowledge that racism exists in America racism wasn't to blame for whatever bad thing we happen to be discussing. It never fails. It's like Schrodinger's racism, it is both everywhere and nowhere all at the same time.

Let's accept for a second the premise that the idea was entirely sports related to throw LeBron off his game. Okay. So to do so, somebody defaces his house with a word that exists as a symbol of racism that holds LeBron to be less of a person because of his skin color. Why did they choose that word? Why does that word have that power? Would a similar scenario even be possible for a white athlete?

The answer to all of these points directly at us still living in a racist society. But we've got people repeating to themselves that it's possibly sports motivated just so they don't have to own up to it. I'd say more than anything, that's one of the most universal forms of white privilege. You can disengage from racism, pretend it doesn't exist and not pay any price in your life. If you aren't, you'll be reminded of it daily and be expected to play by its rules.
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This is very well said.
 
SteveGrabowski said:
How can anyone call the movement anti-PC after the wave of crying we heard about Kathy Griffin though?
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Conservatives are perfectly fine with political correctness so long as it isn't used against conservatives. It's just like the 'small government' conservatives. They are actually perfectly fine with big government, just big government that does things conservatives like.
 
fskimospy said:
In that way I can see how it's even more infuriating for him. He's about as successful a person as you can be in this world but he still can't escape America's racism. No matter how rich or how successful he becomes he's always going to have people who look down on him for being black. That's got to really piss him off.

Hell, just look at people in this thread who decided that it wasn't racism, it was just sports fans trying to get in his head... based on literally nothing. It might be that, but several people here have just basically dismissed it out of hand because it's easier to do that and ignore things than deal with the huge amount of racism that's still present in our society.
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The problem with P&N is that everything here is black and white. There is no in between, you have to either be on one side or the other.

When in reality, it can be both, just like this was. It was both racist and a means to get in his head.
 
fskimospy said:
Conservatives are perfectly fine with political correctness so long as it isn't used against conservatives. It's just like the 'small government' conservatives. They are actually perfectly fine with big government, just big government that does things conservatives like.
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i think your brain finally broke.
 
OutHouse said:
i think your brain finally broke.
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I mean you can't deny I'm right about this so why try?

Right in the front page we have conservatives squealing about Kathy Griffin making an un-pc picture and other conservatives supporting the government coming in to suppress free speech they don't like.
 
purbeast0 said:
The problem with P&N is that everything here is black and white. There is no in between, you have to either be on one side or the other.

When in reality, it can be both, just like this was. It was both racist and a means to get in his head.
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Maybe. We only have evidence of one though. That being the word used.

There is plenty of room for nuance in P&N depending on the subject and the people engaging in the topic. Based solely on the evidence, this event had a racist motive. The sports motive is possible, but until the perpetrator(s) is questioned or confesses, racism is the only thing demonstrated.
 
OutHouse said:
yea the drugged out Tiger Woods sure got a beating on the side of the road.
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I'm going to go out of my here to extract the nugget of a point that you were perhaps trying to make, that people will miss: celebrity very much does matter. There's a good chance that celebrity status will supersede race when it comes to violence by cop on a case by case basis, even black celebrities vs black normal folks (lol, this was a Chapelle bit). On it's own, completely removed from context, this sounds like an argument that race is not the significant variable.

...but context matters. The overwhelming weight of numbers regarding copper violence against blacks vs whites, on a case by case basis, more or less ignores the value of the celebrity proposition. It appears that celebrity vs non-celebrity is one thing; white vs black is something else entirely.
 
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