tennis.
and tradition or not, it's still done in basketball by classy players with good sportsmanship.
You don't see it because MLB has a rule against it. I'm sure the crap fines they get they can all afford but its just plain stupid to even have such a rule.
Kobe felt he was on a team with a plan for the future, not the now. I mean, he had Kwame Brown and Smush Parker as part of his starting lineup! The guy is in his prime and doesn't want to waste that opportunity. He scared management into doing something now. And all he got out of that was Pau Gasol...
I'd be shocked if Lebron doesn't do the same (demand more help or demand a trade).
As for the Shaq v. Kobe thing... I'd say the blame is 50/50 on those two guys. Jerry Buss made the smart final decision (for him) and keep the young star and get rid of the old star (who wanted a $30 millon per year extension).
To me, I don't really have that big of a problem with it, especially in a deciding final game deep in the playoffs. I mean, yeah it's nice and shows good charisma and they should stick around to shake hands but I don't really hold it against those that are ultra-competitive.
Tiger Woods did the same thing at Augusta but he sticks around to joke with people about how poorly he played for all the non-majors when emotions aren't running as high. It seems like people can't win either way, though. Kobe/Lebron get slammed for one way and others like Tim Duncan get slammed for not showing enough emotion.
And, yeah, like zinfamous mentioned, Kobe's not even close to top 10 if you include all the old school guys, like Ty Cobb who got in fist fights with fans, was a terrible racist against black people so far as to stab one, intentionally spiked others with his cleats during his games and even semi-regularly left *in the middle of a game* if he went hitless. Cobb is probably one of the top record holders in baseball, was a 98% first ballot, and most casual fans think of just his records like highest career average all-time if they know his name at all.
It just seems like a big deal now since it's happening in front of us but all of these "media stories" will probably be forgotten in 50 years. Kobe who?
Also, post-game interviews on the losing side puzzle me. They seem so pointless. The player/coach is clearly depressed at losing and has to stick around to answer inane questions like "How did you guys lose so badly?" or "How are you feeling after such a devastating loss?" Of course, the player just gives some non-committal answer like "Yeah, the other team played great and we need to come back next season" before running off to do something more enjoyable like slamming a door on his hand.
Tiger Woods did the same thing at Augusta but he sticks around to joke with people about how poorly he played for all the non-majors when emotions aren't running as high. It seems like people can't win either way, though. Kobe/Lebron get slammed for one way and others like Tim Duncan get slammed for not showing enough emotion.
And, yeah, like zinfamous mentioned, Kobe's not even close to top 10 if you include all the old school guys, like Ty Cobb who got in fist fights with fans, was a terrible racist against black people so far as to stab one, intentionally spiked others with his cleats during his games and even semi-regularly left *in the middle of a game* if he went hitless. Cobb is probably one of the top record holders in baseball, was a 98% first ballot, and most casual fans think of just his records like highest career average all-time if they know his name at all.
It just seems like a big deal now since it's happening in front of us but all of these "media stories" will probably be forgotten in 50 years. Kobe who?
Also, post-game interviews on the losing side puzzle me. They seem so pointless. The player/coach is clearly depressed at losing and has to stick around to answer inane questions like "How did you guys lose so badly?" or "How are you feeling after such a devastating loss?" Of course, the player just gives some non-committal answer like "Yeah, the other team played great and we need to come back next season" before running off to do something more enjoyable like slamming a door on his hand.
after brawl/mistreating dogs, haven't really heard much from him. i'm sure adelman gave his ok when morey asked about getting ronron. and everyone in houston who's met him says he's a cool dude that'll take time to chat/take pic/etc.
he's crazy, but not sure he's a douche.
they didn't win with Shaq, the Mailman and Payton...Shaq called the game; you can see it in the way he played...he gave up on the Lakers...Kobe had the right to bitch. if anything, Shaq talked the most shit; he was disrespectful to the Owner and the General Manager...even about Phil Jackson's philosophy...it wasn't all kobe's fault...if anything, Shaq was the root cause...
Wow, that's pretty fucking scary that you think that. A lot of the players in the NBA don't make the amount that the upper tiered players do, and spend a majority of their time in the offseason trying to become better players, and building their bodies. Along with that, they do commitments in their communities (team based or home based) that help others.
You're obviously from LA, or at least a fan of those teams.
He wasn't getting any help because he didn't trust them - the trust was there for the season, and went down drastically because all the starters play time went down. When it mattered, no one was truly ready.
Wrong, he did it in the Finals against the Spurs.
Are you listening to Calvin Murphy? Cause that guy is annoying as hell, and just likes to hear himself talk. Oh, and Houston sports teams suck!
Oh, and it was Isiah Thomas who walked off the court, NOT Jordan.
It's difficult to say if Kobe's a rapist or not, because a lot of sexual encounters blur the line between "consensual", i.e. the guy might be putting a lot of pressure on the girl, and the girl might be pressured to go along... Or in other words it doesn't come off as the Lifetime movie version of a rape where some guy in a trench coat forces himself on a woman in a parking lot whose then screaming and fighting back. My guess is that Kobe probably did act inappropriately to a certain extent.
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Did Kobe ever get convicted of rape???
Also saying LeBron is the next Kobe just because he didn't shake the other teams hand when they were all celebrating............you need to find something better to do with your time.
Also saying LeBron is the next Kobe just because he didn't shake the other teams hand when they were all celebrating............you need to find something better to do with your time.
The case against Kobe was even thinner than I remembered it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K...nt_sexual_assault_case
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No he's paid millions for what he does on the court, like Kobe Bryant. OP's case for not liking LeBron is cus he didn't shake hands with the other team after a huge loss which is stupid.
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