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totalcommand

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.

Yep, because we are angry at the Anti-American Republicans as they destroy the Country.

I'm a self-described liberal, and I'd have to agree with them here. When I look at the democratic party, I see a party of no ideas. They are anti everything, completely reactionary. What they need is something like "Contract for (really Contract on) America", they need IDEAS.

I was excited when Dean got elected the leader, but then he just started his anti-Bush, anti-Tom DeLay, etc.

GODDAMMIT GIVE AT LEAST ONE IDEA YOU STUPID DEMOCRATS.

The closest I've seen is a weak SS proposal. And it was really weak.

I agree... but when you're the minority party, what's the point of proposing ideas that will just get voted down on partisan lines no matter how good they are?

For the sake of discussion.

To give options to the centrists in Congress.

For political gain.

Even during the election, Kerry gave very few proposals and did not highlight them. He ran on an anti-Iraq, anti-Bush platform. I for one voted for him not because he had any good ideas, but because Bush sucks.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.
In the same vein, I've struggled for a long time to come up with an appropriate term to collectively identify those who embrace Bush and his minions. I used to refer to them as "neo-fascists". It's accurate and repudiates the "neo-conservative" misnomer, but it's distracting to constantly have to show them why and how the term fits their ideology. (It would help if they were better educated.) "Hate-mongers" is another good one, but it is too broad and too loaded. The same goes for "sheeple", "bleaters", etc. I kind of like "the Bush faithful" and "the Bush flock"; both underscore their unquestioning, cult-like devotion. I'd prefer something a bit shorter, however.

I think I've got it. What does everyone think about identifying them as "BSers" (or "BS'ers"), short for Bush Supporters? It's short, easy to remember, and somehow seems so appropriate.
 

Bowfinger

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Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/INGUNCQHKJ1.DTL">Leaving the left
I can no longer abide the simpering voices of self-styled progressives -- people who once championed solidarity</a>

[ ... ]
Yawn. It's quite common for people to sell out and get greedy as they get old, equally common for those people to rationalize it with all sorts of creative excuses. Nothing to see here.
 

Steeplerot

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Some people are just corrupt and have lazy minds, if you wish to glorify it then that's your bag I guess.

I might have to point out one of the fine third world countries you would rather enjoy more then a free democratic society though. -we don't need more corruption and division.

And we sure do not this place turned into a ghetto becasue you people are too short-sighted to use your own heads.
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: judasmachine
perhaps there will be enough defectors from the left as to balance out the republican party, and bring it back towards the center. that way i can live with them.
Good idea, though I don't think they need liberals necessarily. I think it would be a great start if real, traditional consevatives took the Republican party back from the neo-fascist thugs and religious zealots who've hijacked it.
 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.


:):thumbsup:

Very good read CaD :cool:

 

Bowfinger

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Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: MidasKnight
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.
:):thumbsup:

Very good read CaD :cool:
This is where Sir CAD would usually jump in with a crack about you being a toadie or fluffer or some such ... if not for the fact you're on his side.

:roll:
 
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.
In the same vein, I've struggled for a long time to come up with an appropriate term to collectively identify those who embrace Bush and his minions. I used to refer to them as "neo-fascists". It's accurate and repudiates the "neo-conservative" misnomer, but it's distracting to constantly have to show them why and how the term fits their ideology. (It would help if they were better educated.) "Hate-mongers" is another good one, but it is too broad and too loaded. The same goes for "sheeple", "bleaters", etc. I kind of like "the Bush faithful" and "the Bush flock"; both underscore their unquestioning, cult-like devotion. I'd prefer something a bit shorter, however.

I think I've got it. What does everyone think about identifying them as "BSers" (or "BS'ers"), short for Bush Supporters? It's short, easy to remember, and somehow seems so appropriate.
Hey. Nice reactionary post.

Rather poor execution though.
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
I've finally come to the realization that there are few true lefties or liberals today. What we see in here and other places are not lefties or liberals in the classical sense or of old, as those types rarely exist anymore. What we have today are the "Aunties." Anti-right, anti-conservative, anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-big business, anti-capitalism. anti-etc.

Aunties. and that will be my new term for them because it's just so correctly descriptive of their actions and behavior.
In the same vein, I've struggled for a long time to come up with an appropriate term to collectively identify those who embrace Bush and his minions. I used to refer to them as "neo-fascists". It's accurate and repudiates the "neo-conservative" misnomer, but it's distracting to constantly have to show them why and how the term fits their ideology. (It would help if they were better educated.) "Hate-mongers" is another good one, but it is too broad and too loaded. The same goes for "sheeple", "bleaters", etc. I kind of like "the Bush faithful" and "the Bush flock"; both underscore their unquestioning, cult-like devotion. I'd prefer something a bit shorter, however.

I think I've got it. What does everyone think about identifying them as "BSers" (or "BS'ers"), short for Bush Supporters? It's short, easy to remember, and somehow seems so appropriate.
Hey. Nice reactionary post.

Rather poor execution though.
Thanks for your commentary, BSer Chicken.