Lean meats that don't taste like ass?
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Yes, how do you cook/prepare it? You're doing something wrong.
Lean turkey, some cuts of pork, very lean beef. (At the expense of higher cholesterol) Tuna, some other fishes. Eggs.
You might just do the protein shake thing too if you're looking to get protein.
Lean turkey, some cuts of pork, very lean beef. (At the expense of higher cholesterol) Tuna, some other fishes. Eggs.
You might just do the protein shake thing too if you're looking to get protein.
Chicken breast is mostly about how it's prepared. I'm sure a few of the thousands of chicken breast recipes would suit your palate. Try recipes that use injected marinade or long marination or strong outside seasoning for flavor. I personally love my chicken very spicy like jerk seasonings, BBQ style rubs, etc. Stuff that imparts a lot of flavor to the chicken while not adding lots of fat or salt.
Shrimp isn't all that great for you respectively speaking. Most meats though can be good for you in moderation and can be low fat, such as beef, pork etc if cut lean. I eat pork tenderloin a lot. So flexible in seasonings, tasty and very lean. As long as you prepare it right it can be very juicy, which is a common misconception that lean meats = dry/tough. One preparation I do for pork tenderloin is a 24hour+ marinade in peppercorns and apple cider/orange/mango juice. Sear the outside before putting it in a very hot oven (450-500) or on the grill.
Other interesting, notably lean meats (not seafood which is mostly lean or different type of fats) I recommend: Ostrich and Buffalo. Both are very lean and again, if not prepared well can be tough or dry. Ostrich is amazing imo. It's like a combination of chicken, beef, and duck all in one. Buffalo I have had a few times and the best was loin that was done med-rare. Anything else came out too tough for me due to it's low fat content. Buffalo is very much like lean beef, slight difference in flavor but extremely slight if fresh. Not so fresh can taste more "gamey". Also another very lean meat is rabbit. I personally love it but it depends on how it is prepared. I really enjoy it at this portugeuse place I go to where they roast it in root vegetables in a self contained earthenware pot. Rabbit is extremely lean and high in protein.
"Healthy" meat is usually more about quantity consumed, preparation, and cut then actual type of meat. So at that point it's really about how you flavor it to satisfy your palate.
Shrimp isn't all that great for you respectively speaking. Most meats though can be good for you in moderation and can be low fat, such as beef, pork etc if cut lean. I eat pork tenderloin a lot. So flexible in seasonings, tasty and very lean. As long as you prepare it right it can be very juicy, which is a common misconception that lean meats = dry/tough. One preparation I do for pork tenderloin is a 24hour+ marinade in peppercorns and apple cider/orange/mango juice. Sear the outside before putting it in a very hot oven (450-500) or on the grill.
Other interesting, notably lean meats (not seafood which is mostly lean or different type of fats) I recommend: Ostrich and Buffalo. Both are very lean and again, if not prepared well can be tough or dry. Ostrich is amazing imo. It's like a combination of chicken, beef, and duck all in one. Buffalo I have had a few times and the best was loin that was done med-rare. Anything else came out too tough for me due to it's low fat content. Buffalo is very much like lean beef, slight difference in flavor but extremely slight if fresh. Not so fresh can taste more "gamey". Also another very lean meat is rabbit. I personally love it but it depends on how it is prepared. I really enjoy it at this portugeuse place I go to where they roast it in root vegetables in a self contained earthenware pot. Rabbit is extremely lean and high in protein.
"Healthy" meat is usually more about quantity consumed, preparation, and cut then actual type of meat. So at that point it's really about how you flavor it to satisfy your palate.
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We'll try more techniques using marinades. Wifey tends to do alot of stuff involving sauces.
I don't mind chicken, I just hate boneless skinless chicken breast. Hell a chicken breast when it's off a spit (ie rotisserie/peruvian style) is excellent. But the shit you get at the supermarket I despise. I dig chicken thighs though...but that's because I love to grill them in a spicy jerk style rub and eat them, crispy skin and all. GOD that crispy skin is so good!
I'm a foodie on a diet, so this is hard for me, to say the least. Looking to cut, not bulk.
I don't see what's wrong with shrimp? relatively low fat + high protein = ftw?
I don't mind chicken, I just hate boneless skinless chicken breast. Hell a chicken breast when it's off a spit (ie rotisserie/peruvian style) is excellent. But the shit you get at the supermarket I despise. I dig chicken thighs though...but that's because I love to grill them in a spicy jerk style rub and eat them, crispy skin and all. GOD that crispy skin is so good!
I'm a foodie on a diet, so this is hard for me, to say the least. Looking to cut, not bulk.
I don't see what's wrong with shrimp? relatively low fat + high protein = ftw?
Yeah, that chicken skin is good.......and a good way to pack on the pounds!! Trust me.......
Have you considered preparing your chicken thighs the same way, only skinless?? It should give you the same taste, only without the greasy fat that's under the skin. Worth a try. Definitely, try different recipes/ways of preparing. I get ground turkey and make turkeyburgers on my foreman grill; boneless/skinless chicken gets cut up into smaller pieces, then some fresh/frozen veggies added to it, for a low fat "stir fry" (no oil, just use teflon pans!
); you can do steak on a foreman grill as well, I prefer sirloins; lean ground beef can be made into meatballs and added to just about anything (and really, nothing too fattening about 93% lean beef, eggs, bread crumbs, salt & pepper), or just make a meatloaf (though you might consider using a special pan that lifts the loaf up so it's not cooking in it's own fats). The possibilities are endless!!
One thing I did see recently (and never really thought about it before then) is make certain you're using fresh, not frozen, chicken breasts. The stuff they put on the chicken before they freeze it is VERY high in salt, thus slamming your sodium intake all the hell!!
Have you considered preparing your chicken thighs the same way, only skinless?? It should give you the same taste, only without the greasy fat that's under the skin. Worth a try. Definitely, try different recipes/ways of preparing. I get ground turkey and make turkeyburgers on my foreman grill; boneless/skinless chicken gets cut up into smaller pieces, then some fresh/frozen veggies added to it, for a low fat "stir fry" (no oil, just use teflon pans!
); you can do steak on a foreman grill as well, I prefer sirloins; lean ground beef can be made into meatballs and added to just about anything (and really, nothing too fattening about 93% lean beef, eggs, bread crumbs, salt & pepper), or just make a meatloaf (though you might consider using a special pan that lifts the loaf up so it's not cooking in it's own fats). The possibilities are endless!! One thing I did see recently (and never really thought about it before then) is make certain you're using fresh, not frozen, chicken breasts. The stuff they put on the chicken before they freeze it is VERY high in salt, thus slamming your sodium intake all the hell!!
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Originally posted by: marvdmartian
Yeah, that chicken skin is good.......and a good way to pack on the pounds!! Trust me.......
Have you considered preparing your chicken thighs the same way, only skinless?? It should give you the same taste, only without the greasy fat that's under the skin. Worth a try. Definitely, try different recipes/ways of preparing. I get ground turkey and make turkeyburgers on my foreman grill; boneless/skinless chicken gets cut up into smaller pieces, then some fresh/frozen veggies added to it, for a low fat "stir fry" (no oil, just use teflon pans!
One thing I did see recently (and never really thought about it before then) is make certain you're using fresh, not frozen, chicken breasts. The stuff they put on the chicken before they freeze it is VERY high in salt, thus slamming your sodium intake all the hell!!
definitely a possibility re: skinless thighs. I just hate white meat.
Most people overcook their chicken breasts, which is why they taste shitty and dry.
Marinate and/or season the hell out of a breast, toss it into a cast iron skillet on high heat to sear the outsides, then throw the whole skillet into the oven on 350 for about 15 minutes. You'll get the juiciest chicken breast you've ever had.
In most "lean" meat, the taste is all in the preparation. Lean pork sucks if not prepared well, as does most fish.
Marinate and/or season the hell out of a breast, toss it into a cast iron skillet on high heat to sear the outsides, then throw the whole skillet into the oven on 350 for about 15 minutes. You'll get the juiciest chicken breast you've ever had.
In most "lean" meat, the taste is all in the preparation. Lean pork sucks if not prepared well, as does most fish.
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I cook my chicken breasts usually one of two ways: marinated in teriyaki or marinated in Italian dressing, and then baked at 325 for about 30-35 mins. When I'm using Italian dressing, I also sprinkle some bread crumbs on top of the breasts before hand.
Ns1, who says you have to eat chicken breasts anyways? Some weird diet? I can't imagine Turkey breast is much different nutritionally yet it tastes a lot better imo. I typically won't eat chicken breast anymore opting for turkey.
Also have some fun with your diet. I am trying to eat more fresh veg lately but I hate bland salads like iceberg, horrible tomatoes etc. In season and farmer fresh I can eat just about any veg raw but wintertime supermarket veggies suck. I got some inspiration for a salad. I roasted wedges of sweet potato with just a tiny bit of olive oil, sea salt, fresh pepper. Roasted those in the oven for a while till carmalized (1h@350-400). Then tossed those (after cooling) in fresh arugula in a sweet 18yo balsamic, olive oil, and a squeeze of tangerine juice, and parmeggiano reggiano shavings. All in all a very healthy salad with barely any fat, low salt, some protein, carbs, vitamins and minerals etc. Honestly dont care a lot about the nutritional stuff. I gloss over it all and don't calorie count. I just eat what tastes and makes me feel good. Anyways I was going to make some meat or something after this salad but it was so dam good I just ate and a giant plate of the salad for dinner. I am never one to eat salad as a meal replacement.
Point is that there lots of ways to approach your diet (diet as in what you eat not exactly a strict diet) and certain foods. Time to remix it.
Try some turkey breast cutlets. Try duck breast minus skin. Pork tenderloin trimmed very well. All of those are easy substitutes to chicken breasts. What's wrong with thighs? Who said you have to eat chicken breasts?
Oh and about shrimp, its not that bad just relatively speaking to other "fish" its not so great for you due to the high cholesterol and lack of some of the beneficial omega oils found in fish.
Also have some fun with your diet. I am trying to eat more fresh veg lately but I hate bland salads like iceberg, horrible tomatoes etc. In season and farmer fresh I can eat just about any veg raw but wintertime supermarket veggies suck. I got some inspiration for a salad. I roasted wedges of sweet potato with just a tiny bit of olive oil, sea salt, fresh pepper. Roasted those in the oven for a while till carmalized (1h@350-400). Then tossed those (after cooling) in fresh arugula in a sweet 18yo balsamic, olive oil, and a squeeze of tangerine juice, and parmeggiano reggiano shavings. All in all a very healthy salad with barely any fat, low salt, some protein, carbs, vitamins and minerals etc. Honestly dont care a lot about the nutritional stuff. I gloss over it all and don't calorie count. I just eat what tastes and makes me feel good. Anyways I was going to make some meat or something after this salad but it was so dam good I just ate and a giant plate of the salad for dinner. I am never one to eat salad as a meal replacement.
Point is that there lots of ways to approach your diet (diet as in what you eat not exactly a strict diet) and certain foods. Time to remix it.
Try some turkey breast cutlets. Try duck breast minus skin. Pork tenderloin trimmed very well. All of those are easy substitutes to chicken breasts. What's wrong with thighs? Who said you have to eat chicken breasts?
Oh and about shrimp, its not that bad just relatively speaking to other "fish" its not so great for you due to the high cholesterol and lack of some of the beneficial omega oils found in fish.
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Chicken breast is just so often used in healthy recipe's online, hence my particular disdain towards it. Noted on the turkey breast however.
Re: Shrimp, isn't your body's cholesterol affected by saturated fat content and NOT the cholesterol (as measured on nutritional info)
re: Cholesterol
I'm not an expert (unlike some of my colleagues) on it but as far as I know you are part right. Cholesterol you ingest does affect your body cholesterol levels, HDL and LDL but not always equally. Some foods may not raise your LDL cholesterol that much (good cholesterol) and therefore not be deemed unhealthy by today's standards (remember standards change with understanding, which changes... often and a lot). Saturated fats do however generally raise both LDL and HDL cholesterol making them bad for you. Shrimp did get a blanket statement of "high cholesterol" indicating they were bad for you, but recent studies show that it may not elevate your LDL cholesterol substantially, therefore not making them as bad as people thought by the initial cholesterol numbers in the food. Regardless, everything in moderation and I wouldn't worry too much. If you're a shrimp boat captain eating eggs and shrimp all day, I might worry...
There is a lot of information on the AHA site.
http://www.americanheart.org/p....jhtml?identifier=1516
I'm not an expert (unlike some of my colleagues) on it but as far as I know you are part right. Cholesterol you ingest does affect your body cholesterol levels, HDL and LDL but not always equally. Some foods may not raise your LDL cholesterol that much (good cholesterol) and therefore not be deemed unhealthy by today's standards (remember standards change with understanding, which changes... often and a lot). Saturated fats do however generally raise both LDL and HDL cholesterol making them bad for you. Shrimp did get a blanket statement of "high cholesterol" indicating they were bad for you, but recent studies show that it may not elevate your LDL cholesterol substantially, therefore not making them as bad as people thought by the initial cholesterol numbers in the food. Regardless, everything in moderation and I wouldn't worry too much. If you're a shrimp boat captain eating eggs and shrimp all day, I might worry...
There is a lot of information on the AHA site.
http://www.americanheart.org/p....jhtml?identifier=1516
incredibly simple recipe with boneless, skinless chicken breasts:
1. break some eggs and put them in a bowl
2. dip the chicken in the egg
3. roll the chicken in bread crumbs to coat it. get bread crumbs that have whatever seasoning/flavors you like.
4. (optional) repeat steps #2 and #3 once more so you have a double coating
5. fry several minutes a side in a frying pan in some oil
takes < 10 minutes to make and is quite tasty. cut the chicken up and toss it in a salad and you have a healthy and delicious meal.
there's millions of other recipes like this for boneless, skinless chicken and i find it hard to believe you wouldn't like at least a few of them. but if it's really not your thing, you can try:
1. turkey
2. tuna
3. salmon fillets
4. smoked salmon
5. lean cuts of beef & lamb
6. emu/ostrich
7. buffalo/bison
1. break some eggs and put them in a bowl
2. dip the chicken in the egg
3. roll the chicken in bread crumbs to coat it. get bread crumbs that have whatever seasoning/flavors you like.
4. (optional) repeat steps #2 and #3 once more so you have a double coating
5. fry several minutes a side in a frying pan in some oil
takes < 10 minutes to make and is quite tasty. cut the chicken up and toss it in a salad and you have a healthy and delicious meal.
there's millions of other recipes like this for boneless, skinless chicken and i find it hard to believe you wouldn't like at least a few of them. but if it's really not your thing, you can try:
1. turkey
2. tuna
3. salmon fillets
4. smoked salmon
5. lean cuts of beef & lamb
6. emu/ostrich
7. buffalo/bison
I know these are not all meats, and some are recipes, but I'm just throwing out ideas here
1 Southwest chicken with lowfat sour cream
2 mesquite smoked Ahi tuna on the grill. Goes great washed down with a cold Pilsner (pilsner is low sugar).
3 grilled or baked goatcheese stuffed mushrooms (cheese is high in protein)
4 Frijol a la charra (beans not meat) but high protein virtually zero fat and loaded with flavor
5 Marinated, grilled skirt steaks (fajitas). Add grilled peppers and onions for extra flavor.
6 Chicken soup made with water, red pepper, carrots, parsley, garlic, celery, zucchini and cabbage. I make mine with double the normal quantity for chicken per pot. About 24-28 grams of protein per serving.
7 Sun dried tomatoes, peppers, goat cheese, mushrooms and chicken chunks baked in a bowl.:thumbsup:
I have hundred of favorites, these are just a few.
1 Southwest chicken with lowfat sour cream
2 mesquite smoked Ahi tuna on the grill. Goes great washed down with a cold Pilsner (pilsner is low sugar).
3 grilled or baked goatcheese stuffed mushrooms (cheese is high in protein)
4 Frijol a la charra (beans not meat) but high protein virtually zero fat and loaded with flavor
5 Marinated, grilled skirt steaks (fajitas). Add grilled peppers and onions for extra flavor.
6 Chicken soup made with water, red pepper, carrots, parsley, garlic, celery, zucchini and cabbage. I make mine with double the normal quantity for chicken per pot. About 24-28 grams of protein per serving.
7 Sun dried tomatoes, peppers, goat cheese, mushrooms and chicken chunks baked in a bowl.:thumbsup:
I have hundred of favorites, these are just a few.
You should consider Ostrich (www.blackwing.com) you can prepare it like cow but it is incredibly lean, good for hamburgers, meatballs and steaks, (4oz has around 24grams of protein and 1.5g fat 110 calories)
Speaking of which, any recommendations for good source to buy game meats like that? Ostrich, duck, bison, rabbit, etc. Shipping is brutal on that stuff. I'd like to just make a large order and put it in the freezer. I feel a little strange about ordering meat online...
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If you live in NYC as your profile shows, you should have no problem finding a butcher or gourmet shop that carries most of those.
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Get some pork tenderloin or a lean sirloin steak. Trim off any extra fat and grill or panfry in olive oil.
If you're on a diet and eating meat, keep in mind that the most important thing is eating proper portion sizes. You can eat steak as long as you're eating 5oz portions. If you buy a nice big slab or sirloin, you should be able to get 2-3 portions out of it and mix it with some fresh vegetables and brown rice.
If you're on a diet and eating meat, keep in mind that the most important thing is eating proper portion sizes. You can eat steak as long as you're eating 5oz portions. If you buy a nice big slab or sirloin, you should be able to get 2-3 portions out of it and mix it with some fresh vegetables and brown rice.
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yah, I trimmed down my portion sizes considerably. I also eat more during the day and have tons of snacks (fuji apples, blueberries, kashi bars) so thus far I've been able to eat 5-6 times a day.
Long gone are the AYCE korean bbq, double cut filet mignon, lawry's cut of prime rib, etc, etc, etc.
Now me and the wifey split everything =(
I miss gluttony.
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But I feel great. As soon as I can get exercise back in my schedule I'll be pretty happy.
Actually I work in manhattan but now currently live in jersey city. I have done it before but I don't want to carry home meat on the subway. Rather have a good reputable place to ship to me. I also want to ship to some people who don't have access to this stuff.
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