League of Legends - F2P MOBA (like DOTA) part 2

[EDUSAN]

As i said... top is forgotten until mid-late game... and that is when you do nashor (unless you are super pro and force/do nashor before the 20min mark)

 

[krnmastersgt]

Actually top should be able to roam to the Dragon when it's time to force a fight there, hence one of the other reasons why Shen is so popular since he can stay in his lane but then port into the Dragon fight resulting in push pressure as well as presence in the team fight.

And as fun as it is to just sit and farm in top lane all day, you should be doing everything you can to put the enemy team behind and your team ahead whenever possible. When Shyvana was a popular top a common tactic was to shove the lane into their tower then go counter jungle. Tops also commonly gank mid, or lane gank bot when their opposing tower is already down and they want to put on pressure.

The only lane I think that should sit there and just focus on farming more than participating in teamfights often is the AD carry, simply because it takes the longest to seriously build up but once fully item'd (or at least a few good ones) is the most serious threat on any team.

 

[EDUSAN]

not saying i dont do that... but normally its hard without losing a bit. Cause if you push your lane to go gank mid and the gank is unsucessfull the other top player might get that bit ahead of you that its important in a (mostly) 1v1 dueling little game that happens there. And there is a tiny window to go do dragon when you are on top cause its so far away that the other top player might as well push hard as soon as he sees you there and take the whole tower by itself.

but of course, im not pro solotop player. I just started to focus hard on that role since last week.

 

[HumblePie]

This was sooo funny something that happened last night. I was watching Phantoml0rd stream. He was douing with someone that paid to play a ranked game with him. The guy took Jax top against Jayce. Needless to say the guy got hammered by Jayce. In the web chat discussion was all the rage about how jayce is the most OP top. I said he's not and everyone asked who would be able to beat him. I said Yorick easily. They were all, no way Jayce would be a hard counter to Yorick.

I was like, umm no, jayce has nothing on Yorick. On top of that, he's easy to beat if you know how to. Just stand to the side of the minion wave and semi close to him. Look for where he aims his acceleration gate. If it's at you, then dodge it. If it's at minion wave, step through the gate if you can and take the hit BEFORE it goes through the gate. It completely fucks him over. Jayce has no inherent sustain over Yorick and not the most spammable of abilities either. Very easy to zone him out early and hard.

I was called a noob and several people asked for my Elo and that if I wasn't over 2K elo my assertions were worthless. I said, Elo doesn't matter in this case as that is just the facts of the matchup. I also stated I've GONE up against a Jayce top player that was 2.3ishK elo and beat his butt down in normal game even when he was getting ganks. They didn't believe me and said I was lying out my ass.

That's when I noticed the guy playing Jayce on the stream WAS the guy I had beat down before. I also realized the guy friended me after the game too because he was seriously impressed with my Yorick play top despite my elo. I then messaged him to tell PhantomLord I said "wuzzup" from the the chat room, and tell the people in phantoml0rd chat room that TerribleGuy is right. I beat him, a 2.3ishK elo player, as yorick, and that jayce is hard countered by Yorick.


LOL, the chat room got quiet after that

 

[Kabob]

This was sooo funny something that happened last night. I was watching Phantoml0rd stream. He was douing with someone that paid to play a ranked game with him. The guy took Jax top against Jayce. Needless to say the guy got hammered by Jayce. In the web chat discussion was all the rage about how jayce is the most OP top. I said he's not and everyone asked who would be able to beat him. I said Yorick easily. They were all, no way Jayce would be a hard counter to Yorick.

I was like, umm no, jayce has nothing on Yorick. On top of that, he's easy to bat if you know how to. Just stand to the side of the minion wave and semi close to him. Look for where he aims his acceleration gate. If it's at you, then dodge it. If it's at minion wave, step through the gate if you can and take the hit BEFORE it goes through the gate. It completely fucks him over. Jayce has no inherent sustain over Yorick and not the most spammable of abilities either. Very easy to zone him out early and hard.

I was called a noob and several people asked for my Elo and that if I wasn't over 2K elo my assertions were worthless. I said, Elo doesn't matter in this case as that is just the facts of the matchup. I also stated I've GONE up against a Jayec top player that was 2.3K elo and beat his butt down in normal game even when he was getting ganks. They didn't believe me and said I was lying out my ass.

That's when I noticed the guy playing Jayce on the stream WAS the guy I had beat down before. I also realized the guy friended me after the game too because he was seriously impressed with my Yorick play top despite my elo. I then messaged him to tell PhantomLord I said "wuzzup" from the the chat room, and tell the people in phantoml0rd chat room that TerribleGuy is right. I beat him a 2.4K elo player as yorick and that jayce is hard countered by Yorick.


LOL the chat room got quiet after that

Haha, that's awesome!

Mid-Sept patch notes:

PvP.net 1.67

Players may now create up to 20 mastery pages, up from 10.

League of Legends v1.0.0.147

Syndra, the Dark Sovereign
Transcendent (Passive) - Spells gain extra effects at max rank.
Dark Sphere: Deals bonus damage to champions
Force of Will: Increases slowing duration.
Scatter the Weak: Spell width increased.
Dark Sphere – Syndra conjures a Dark Sphere dealing magic damage. The sphere remains and can be manipulated by her other powers.
Force of Will – Syndra picks up and throws a minion or Dark Sphere dealing magic damage and slowing the movement speed of enemies.
Scatter the Weak – Syndra knocks enemies and Dark Spheres back dealing magic damage. Enemies hit by Dark Spheres become stunned.
Unleashed Power – Syndra bombards an enemy Champion with all of her Dark Spheres.

Graves
Riot Graves is now properly flagged as having sunglasses.

Spectator Mode
Spectators can now rearrange the display positions of any player on the scoreboard in the bottom-center of the screen by dragging that player’s bar.
The scoreboard has been rearranged for easier team comparisons:
Champion portraits have been moved to the center of the scoreboard, with minion kills immediately adjacent.
Items are now automatically sorted to display more expensive items toward the center of the scoreboard.
While drag-scrolling (default: middle mouse click + drag), the camera will now wait to move until the player drags the mouse, rather than automatically moving in the direction of the initial click.
E.g. if a player middle-clicks the right side of the screen, the camera will no longer automatically move to the right. Instead, it will move based on where the player drags the mouse.
Max scroll speed remains the same and caps out at a drag length equal to the distance between the center and edge of the screen.
The mouse cursor will now disappear while drag-scrolling.

Co-op vs AI
Increased the variance in team composition makeups for Coop vs AI.

General
The time window for multikills has been increased to 10 seconds from the previous kills as opposed to 8.

 

[krnmastersgt]

That Graves update is OP.

 

[batmang]

i seem to be the only player that is not able to finish 1238219031/1/0 with Darius.

:S

I've never played as him but you need to master the skill of KSing.

It's pretty easy.

1) Get to level 6.
2) Hit "R" and click enemies until your finger exlpodes.
3) /laugh

 

[crownjules]

S2 ending tiers announced. You get the War Hero Janna skin at 1500. Season ends Oct 23rd.

Tier            Solo ELO           Team ELO
Bronze 7      < 850                < 850
Bronze 6         850                  950
Bronze 5         900                 1000
Bronze 4         950                 1050
Bronze 3        1000                 1100
Bronze 2        1050                 1150
Bronze 1        1100                 1200

Silver 7          1150                
Silver 6          1200                
Silver 5          1250                
Silver 4          1300                1250
Silver 3          1350                1300
Silver 2          1400                1350
Silver 1          1450                1400

Gold 7            1500
Gold 6            1550
Gold 5            1600
Gold 4            1650               1450
Gold 3            1700               1500
Gold 2            1750               1550
Gold 1            1800               1600

Platinum 7      1850
Platinum 6      1900
Platinum 5      1950
Platinum 4      2000               1650
Platinum 3      2050               1700
Platinum 2      2100               1750
Platinum 1      2150               1800

Diamond 7      2200               1850
Diamond 6      2250               1900
Diamond 5      2300               1950
Diamond 4      2350               2000
Diamond 3      2400               2050
Diamond 2      2450               2100
Diamond 1      2500               2150

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Oh man, at the very least I want to get silver. I've managed to get up to 1180 or so, before I lost 2 games in a row and BOOM back to 1148.

Fucking Rengar. It was 4v5 at our nexus towers and rengar was off getting the enemy's red buff and counterjungling.

So good.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yay. I'm glad the season will be ending soon. I was at 1300 something at one point before the dodge drops really screwed me over. Now that those are gone, I just have other players to blame when I lose a game lol.

 

[crownjules]

So get this. The S2 tier is based on you top ELO, ie. the highest ELO you've achieved not what you end the season at. But the thing is Riot never distinguished between S1 and S2 top ELO. So they just reset everyone's top ELO to their current ELO rating. Enjoy!

 

[NikolaeVarius]

So get this. The S2 tier is based on you top ELO, ie. the highest ELO you've achieved not what you end the season at. But the thing is Riot never distinguished between S1 and S2 top ELO. So they just reset everyone's top ELO to their current ELO rating. Enjoy!

WHY.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I don't understand....the ladders never showed up that way...

 

[crownjules]

WHY.

Apparently it's paramount to stop people from getting rewards for their S1 achievement then to care about the people who may be negatively effected by such a reset. I mean, I'm affected by it. My top ELO is from a few weeks ago and is about 70 points higher than current. Can I get back up there? Sure. Is it possible I won't? Yes. I'm not angry or anything, I just don't understand how Riot can think punishing some of their players for their silly oversight is a good move.

If I were Riot, my thought process would have been: Nothing's really at stake - some people might get a free skin (that's not sold) and recognition they don't deserve from their S2 performance. But resetting the score a month before the end is likely to negatively effect as many players as it does prevent the above scenario. Let's just learn our lesson and make sure we reset them at the end of this season.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Again..I don't see why it mattered...the ladders show your current ranking, not your top ranking. I guess I just assumed you are what you are at..not what you were at. I know it showed your highest ranking, but it didn't say it was your current.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Again..I don't see why it mattered...the ladders show your current ranking, not your top ranking. I guess I just assumed you are what you are at..not what you were at. I know it showed your highest ranking, but it didn't say it was your current.

They reset the top rank you hold to what you're sitting at now though, so if you had a season high of 1900 and are currently 1400 then your high for this season is going to be calculated as 1400 I think it's so that people don't feel paranoid about losing a game once they just barely break into a new tier, that was one reason I was cautious with my S1 games personally.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm missing something obvious I guess. To me, it seems like they just crapped on a majority of the playerbase. It encourages people to play 20 games and stay at 1500 rather than to keep playing to try to climb higher. One thing that I've noticed is many of the high rankers do not have many games in total compared to people who are lower.

Not that I care about what they did, just makes no sense other than to say, you are what you are at the time of season ending, not what you were highest...which I always thought it was anyway.

The whole system needs an overhaul.

 

[0___________0]

I'm confused, people on the forums were saying it uses your top ELO attained between now and the end of S2. I've got 9 games and I'm at 1243, does that mean I get that silver rating, or do I need to play some games, since I haven't done any in months?

 

[crownjules]

At the end of Season 2, you will be rewarded based on your top ELO.

Today, Riot reset everyone's top ELO to whatever their current ELO score is because they hadn't done this at the end of Season 1.

So for instance, my top ELO was 1370 from a few weeks ago. But I had dropped to 1294 since then. My top ELO is now 1294 due to the reset.

 

[ImpulsE69]

The new char is kinda meh.

 

[HumblePie]

The new char is kinda meh.

New char is basically orianna really when you think how she is played.

On a side note, you can get a full S team now.

Sona
Sivir
Shyvana
Syndra
Singed

 

[thejunglegod]

The new char is kinda meh.

The Justicar skin on her almost makes her orbs transparent. Think it might get a color rethink since it's kinda difficult to spot them.

 

[HumblePie]

Side note. Eve is effing OP right now as hell again. Been playing a ton with her and she can top, mid, or jungle effectively. Her ult + DFG = GEE GEE to any single target while still dealing a crap ton of damage in an aoe with the ult to anyone else. Since the range on her hate spike is now more than 4 pixels away from her, it is damn good! The damage on it, the spammability about it, and the move speed bonus now being on her W instead of her Ult makes her getting around to lanes for kills MASSIVELY easier. That and having it remove slows which a lot of champs have is effing fantastic. OMG seriously a good champ now again to use.

As for Syndra, I think really she is more a support mage than a main mid lane mage. Her knock back and stun make her more useful as a support champ IMHO.

 

[zebano]

I'm missing something obvious I guess. To me, it seems like they just crapped on a majority of the playerbase. It encourages people to play 20 games and stay at 1500 rather than to keep playing to try to climb higher. One thing that I've noticed is many of the high rankers do not have many games in total compared to people who are lower.

Not that I care about what they did, just makes no sense other than to say, you are what you are at the time of season ending, not what you were highest...which I always thought it was anyway.

The whole system needs an overhaul.

I think you misunderstood what they're doing it encourages people to keep playing since if they achieve that 1500 they will keep it regardless of if their actual Elo falls back below 1500.

Ragardign Jayce, I rather hate him, first off he's got range, massive movement speed (Gate + passive) as well as a leap and a knockback which does %health dmg. I really think his hammer form e needs to do one or the other (knockback or %damage) not both as it makes trading too easy. I actually find it's harder to chase down Jayce than either Nidalee or Nunu, and honestly that's retarded for someone who does that much damage (Nunu, has to get in close and Nidalee has good poke but is generally squishy). In short he may be jack of all trades master of none, but he's just good enough at all of them to be massively annoying.

Darius on the other hand doesn't bother me too much (get rid of the scaling on his ult or the reset plz).

 

[ImpulsE69]

I think you misunderstood what they're doing it encourages people to keep playing since if they achieve that 1500 they will keep it regardless of if their actual Elo falls back below 1500.

.

Ahhh I thought they had changed it from highest elo to elo at end of season, but they didn't, they just reset them. That makes more sense. So you still get your highest ELO, it's just that they decided to reset it now rather than at the beginning of the season.

I was saying the same as you that highest ELO encourages people to try to move up w/o the worry of losing ELO.

I find Darius to be more annoying than Jayce. I played a game last night where a Darius and a Vayne both dualed a bottom lane and were splitting CS. They didn't really get any kills so they should have technically been behind everyone else, but Darius was just raping in team fights.