League of Legends - F2P MOBA (like DOTA) part 2

[crownjules]

Orianna as AP mid is amazing for a team once you get into the teamfight phase. She brings so much utility as well as being pretty damn powerful on the attack. Fenix and I played against a Ori + Soraka team the other day and we couldn't kill their carries because it would be Shield (AR/MR boost) + Heal (AR boost).

Alright let's play the most infuriating team comp I can think of -

Shen top
Ori mid
Soraka/Sona support
AD carry of choice (Ashe if you want obnoxious amounts of CC)
Alistar jungle

Shields and heals and CC galore.

 

[zebano]

Orianna as AP mid is amazing for a team once you get into the teamfight phase. She brings so much utility as well as being pretty damn powerful on the attack. Fenix and I played against a Ori + Soraka team the other day and we couldn't kill their carries because it would be Shield (AR/MR boost) + Heal (AR boost).

Alright let's play the most infuriating team comp I can think of -

Shen top
Ori mid
Soraka/Sona support
AD carry of choice (Ashe if you want obnoxious amounts of CC)
Alistar jungle

Shields and heals and CC galore.

Is Orianna really more annoying than Zilean?


edit: Lee Sin jungle is more annoying, his shield is much better than Alistars small heal.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Orianna as AP mid is amazing for a team once you get into the teamfight phase. She brings so much utility as well as being pretty damn powerful on the attack. Fenix and I played against a Ori + Soraka team the other day and we couldn't kill their carries because it would be Shield (AR/MR boost) + Heal (AR boost).

Alright let's play the most infuriating team comp I can think of -

Shen top
Ori mid
Soraka/Sona support
AD carry of choice (Ashe if you want obnoxious amounts of CC)
Alistar jungle

Shields and heals and CC galore.

Played a variation of that the other day.:

Soraka
Ashe (or vayne..don't remember)
Alistar
Sona
Lulu

Started out as a troll team...and ended up absolutely owning.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Is Orianna really more annoying than Zilean?

I don't think enough people know how to really play Zilean (I know I don't). He requires good intuition as to whats going on and decent timing to truely be helpful to the team. Orianna can be played more straight forward as a "carry" which suits more peoples play styles.

 

[Firsttime]

AP Soraka mid, Lulu top, Taric Support, Fiddlesticks jungle, Caitlyn AD.

The gayest comp ever. Never fight, always live, never die. Caw caw.

 

[crownjules]

Spec mode patch is already out and I briefly tried it this morning to watch one of the featured games. Seems pretty good. There's a timeline bar so you can go back and watch any point of the match.

This "Added an indicator to show owned rune content when attempting to purchase a new rune; Rune purchases past the usable rune limit will now be prevented" would have really helped me the other day. I bought a full set of GP10 quints forgetting that I had recombined runes into one a while ago. I used my account's 1 refund on it, but maybe with this I can convince them to refund a buyer's remorse champion as well if I end up hating a champ purchase at some point.

Notes -

Spectator Mode!

    Spectate your Friends
        Added the ability to spectate games that friends are playing by right clicking their name in the buddy list
        Easily identify friends you can spectate by the eye icon near their name
    Featured Games
        The landing page will now host featured games that anyone can spectate
        Click the 'Watch Now' icon to view some of the most skilled players in League of Legends!
        Games cycle at regular intervals so be sure to check back often
    Directed Camera
        Implemented a directed camera mode that will automatically follow the action in game!
        The camera will seamlessly jump between champion fights and other critical moments
        Interesting events like Champion kills will be prioritized
        When multiple Champions are on the screen, the camera will automatically adjust to include them
    Timeshift Controls
        Spectators can now jump around the timeline of a live game to watch past events!
        Replay events in slow motion to review action-filled moments
        Spectators can now actively fast forward through the game
    Spectator announcer coverage will now report more events
    Updated spectator UI elements to respect colorblind mode

New Skins in the Store

    Frostblade Irelia
    Rune Wars Renekton

PVP.net v1.59

    Added a new image for ignored Summoners in the buddy list
    Fixed several display inconsistencies when using Summoner Name Change
    Summoners must now be level 5 to talk in public chat rooms
        Level 1 summoners will still be able to join with read-only access
    Pending a hotfix, only game creators can invite players to games

PvP.net Store

    Added an indicator to show owned rune content when attempting to purchase a new rune
    Rune purchases past the usable rune limit will now be prevented

League of Legends v1.0.0.139

Alistar

    Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level

Amumu

    Curse of the Sad Mummy cooldown reduced to 150/130/110 seconds from 170/150/120 seconds
    Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level

Annie

    Base Health increased to 460 from 424
    Incinerate Mana cost reduced to 70/80/90/100/110 from 80/95/110/125/140
    Molten Shield
        Fixed a bug where Molten Shield returned damage to turrets
        Duration reduced to 8 seconds from 15 seconds and cooldown reduced to 16 seconds from 30 seconds
        Mana cost reduced to 20 from 25
        Armor and Magic Resist increased to 20/30/40/50/60 from 10/20/30/40/50

Blitzcrank

    Updated playing against tips

Cho'gath

    Movement Speed increased to 320 from 315

Dr. Mundo

    Burning Agony
        Now has a short cooldown upon activation (to avoid accidental disabling)
        Base damage reduced to 35/50/65/80/95 from 40/55/70/85/100
        Crowd control reduction decreased to 10/15/20/25/30% from 15/20/25/30/35%
        Fixed a bug where Burning Agony was reducing the duration of blinds and silences by more than intended
    Sadism
        Cooldown increased to 75 seconds from 65 seconds

Graves

    Fixed a bug where using a ward could break Buckshot's sound

Irelia

    Base health increased to 546 from 515
    Health per level increased to 90 from 85
    Base health regen per 5 increased to 7.5 from 6.5
    Base damage increased to 59.3 from 56.3

Jarvan IV

    Fixed a bug with Commando and Dragon Slayer skins that caused the game to hitch when first using Demacian Standard

Jax

    Fixed a bug where Counterstrike was stunning through spell shields

Kog'maw

    Void Ooze slow reduced to 20/28/36/44/52% from 28/36/44/52/60%

Lee Sin

    Iron Will Life Steal and Spell Vamp reduced to 5/9/13/17/21% from 5/10/15/20/25%
    Safeguard and Iron Will cooldown increased to 9 seconds from 8 seconds

Leona

    Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level

Lulu

    Glitterlance
        Ability power ratio reduced to 0.6 from 0.7
        Mana cost increased at later ranks to 40/50/60/70/80 from 40/45/50/55/60
    Updated Wild Growth tooltip to reflect knock up ability rather than knock back

Malphite

    Fixed a bug where Polymorph was interrupting Unstoppable Force

Master Yi

    Meditate
        Mana cost reduced to 70/80/90/100/110 from 70/85/100/115/130
    Highlander
        Fixed a bug where assists with Highlander failed to reduce Alpha Strike's cooldown
        Duration changed to 8/10/12 seconds from 6/9/12 seconds

Miss Fortune

    Bullet Time now deals physical damage
    Double Up secondary target damage increased to 120% from 115%

Nocturne

    Fixed a bug with the Ravager skin where Unspeakable Horror was not visually applying the fear tether

Nunu

    Added a range indicator to Absolute Zero
    Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level

Olaf

    Reckless Swing cooldown increased to 9/8/7/6/5 seconds from 8/7/6/5/4 seconds

Ryze

    General
        Base attack damage increased to 52 from 49
        Base missile speed increased to 2400 from 1400
        Recommended items updated on The Crystal Scar/Summoner's Rift
        Animations updated for Overload, Rune Prison, and Spell Flux
    Overload
        Mana ratio reduced to 6.5% from 7.5%
        Ability power ratio increased to .4 from .2
        Overload base damage increased to 60/85/110/135/160 from 40/65/90/115/140
        Range reduced to 650 from 700
    Rune Prison
        Mana ratio reduced to 4.5% from 5%
        Mana cost adjusted to 80/90/100/110/120 from 80/95/110/125/140
        Rune prison duration reduced to .75/1/1.25/1.5/1.75 seconds from 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 seconds
    Spell Flux:
        Added a 1% mana ratio
        Missile speed reduced
        Bounce radius increased to 400 from 375
        Spell Flux now prioritizes enemy champions over Ryze
        Mana cost adjusted to 80/90/100/110/120 from 80/95/110/125/140
    Desperate Power:
        Passive mana component removed
        Active now adds 35/45/55 movement speed

Singed

    Base Health increased to 487 from 448
    Fixed a bug where Insanity Potion was reducing the duration of blinds and silences by more than intended

Sivir

    Boomerang Blade bonus attack damage ratio increased to 1.1 from 1.0

Soraka

    Starcall
        Duration of Magic Resist reduction decreased to 5 seconds from 8 seconds
        Mana cost increased at later ranks to 20/35/50/65/80 from 20/30/40/50/60
    Infuse will no longer target allied minions
    Astral Blessing armor bonus adjusted to 25/45/65/85/105 from 25/50/75/100/125

Swain

    Fixed a bug with Bilgewater and Northern Front skins that caused the game to hitch the first time Decrepify was used

Talon

    Rake mana cost reduced to 50/55/60/65/70 from 60/65/70/75/80
    Base armor increased to 20.5 from 18.5

Taric

    Now gains 1.25 Magic Resist per level

Udyr

    Turtle Stance shield reduced to 60/95/130/165/200 from 60/100/140/180/220

Volibear

    Fixed a bug where Majestic Roar was reducing Minion movement speed to 0 at rank 5

Warwick

    Hungering Strike
        Damage reduced to 8/10/12/14/16% from 8/11/14/17/20%

Zilean

    Zilean can no longer level up Rewind at level 1

General

    Turret base damage decreased but armor penetration and damage to minions increased
    Improved particle scaling on larger characters like Dragon and Baron
    Champion skin names will now be displayed on the load screen
    New option added: Show All Chat
        Cross-team chat in all games is now hidden by default
        Cross-team chat in spectated games will also be hidden by default
        If you enjoy competitive banter, opt-in using the new toggle in the 'More Options' menu!
    Fixed a crash that would occur when attempting to maximize the window while loading into the game
    Selected unit outlines are now improved to be less pixelated
    "Surrender Vote Failed" message no longer appears to the enemy team
    Announcements will now take up the same proportional amount of screen space regardless of the display resolution. The net result is a smaller size at smaller resolutions

Items

    Deathfire Grasp
        Now builds out of Blasting Wand and Kage's Lucky Pick (total cost reduced to 2600 from 2610)
        Now grants 80 Ability Power and 15% Cooldown Reduction, from 60 Ability Power, 12 MP5, and 15% Cooldown Reduction
        Increased cast range to 750 from 650
        Active base damage changed to 25% +4% per 100 AP of the target's current Health from 30% + 3.5%
    Fiendish Codex cost reduced to 1125 from 1245
    Morello's Evil Tome
        Now builds out of Fiendish Codex and Kage's Lucky Pick (total cost reduced to 2330 from 2350)
        Now has Grievous Wounds active
    Sunfire Cape aura damage increased to 40 from 35
    Will of the Ancients
        Now builds out of Blasting Wand and Hextech Revolver
        Total cost increased to 2500 from 2100, combine cost reduced to 440 from 465
    Atma's Impaler, Manamune, Archangel's Staff, Randuin's Omen, Force of Nature, and Deathfire Grasp tooltips now update dynamically
    Fixed a bug where Randuin's Omen tooltip stated the incorrect slow duration

Summoner Spells

    Fixed a bug where Teleport could be used after being affected by Crowd Control effects
    Fixed a bug where casting Cleanse could interrupt Teleport
    Summoner Heal base value reduced to 100 from 145

Co-op vs. AI

    Changed Soraka Bot's Wish logic to help all allies instead of just those near her
    Changed logic for Master Yi Bot's use of Meditate
    Fixed a bug where Dominion bots would prematurely break counter-channel attempts on neutral points
    Fixed a bug where Caitlyn Bot did not learn all of her skills

 

[Chiropteran]

Irelia buffed, really?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Fuck yeah, love me some Irelia. I love playing top. Riven top kicks the ass of 90% of top champions. Irelia is an unmovable brick.

 

[crownjules]

I don't get the Irelia buffs either. I didn't hear of anyone complaining that she needed help. She seemed in a pretty decent spot as she was.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I don't get the Irelia buffs either. I didn't hear of anyone complaining that she needed help. She seemed in a pretty decent spot as she was.

Well, not really.. she was pretty insanely heavily nerfed with the last patch. Really REALLY heavily in fact. Her laning was actually pretty weak. The only real advantage was the fact that she had a ton of sustain, with that nerfed, she has a pretty shitty early game with her not being really able to trade blows with anyone

She needed a buff.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Riot's been doing this for a lot of champs lately, nerf the skills then buff all the stats. Also I'm sad that Athene's didn't make it into this patch.

 

[crownjules]

I've been playing a lot of Ez lately and haven't lost a game yet that I've played as him. I love being paired up with a Sona/Soraka so they can armor buff me so I can dive and harass the carry a ton with my full skill set. Once you get Sheen, Arcane Shift -> AA -> Essence Flux -> AA -> Mystic Shot -> AA is a ton of burst.

 

[crownjules]

Ranked disabled right now. Someone figured out how to hack the masteries to give themselves 100% Summoner spell cooldowns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkqVQ1aYKVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWhMfIh08v4

The hack apparently makes it so you can put all your mastery points in any mastery. So you could get an extra +30AD or whatever you can imagine from stuffing more points than normal in any mastery.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

That hack is amazing. I want to use it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

LMAO. So let me get this straight...they move the masteries server side and a week later someone hacks it? I was always wondering if hacking was possible in this game. I assumed it was, but hadn't really heard much about it nor seen anything (other than bugs).

 

[zebano]

That hack is amazing. I want to use it.

Just go play dota in -wtf mode. No mana, no cooldowns.

 

[nanobreath]

I have really enjoyed playing Riven top lately. And whomever it was that mentioned looking at lifesteal quints, thank you! Looked at the amount you get from quints compared to what you would have to spend in game gold to get that, and it saves a ton of cash. Lets me focus a lot more on other items.

So far I've played against:
Renekten, close fights, but I won them, her ultimate rocks.
Mundo, poor guy couldn't even stand next to me in the middle of the minions without dieing. He was a crappy player though.
Rammus + Nidalee, had no chance of killing somebody, and my jungler NEVER helped, so just tower hugged and killed minions when I could. Joined up with team fights finally and wrecked em.

Still learning her, but I love all the gap closers. People flash away and I can catch up with them without using any summoner spells. (provided it's not through a wall)

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I have really enjoyed playing Riven top lately. And whomever it was that mentioned looking at lifesteal quints, thank you! Looked at the amount you get from quints compared to what you would have to spend in game gold to get that, and it saves a ton of cash. Lets me focus a lot more on other items.

So far I've played against:
Renekten, close fights, but I won them, her ultimate rocks.
Mundo, poor guy couldn't even stand next to me in the middle of the minions without dieing. He was a crappy player though.
Rammus + Nidalee, had no chance of killing somebody, and my jungler NEVER helped, so just tower hugged and killed minions when I could. Joined up with team fights finally and wrecked em.

Still learning her, but I love all the gap closers. People flash away and I can catch up with them without using any summoner spells. (provided it's not through a wall)

Lifesteal is wasted on her. Get AD or AP. AD directly scales on her, but I prefer AP because it provides more actual damage. Both are great.

 

[crownjules]

Wait AP on Riven what? None of her skills scale with AP. What are you smoking Nik?

I've heard a few dedicated Riven players talk about running HP5 quints to give her sustain in top lane since she already has a naturally high HP5.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Wait AP on Riven what? None of her skills scale with AP. What are you smoking Nik?

I've heard a few dedicated Riven players talk about running HP5 quints to give her sustain in top lane since she already has a naturally high HP5.

Armor Pen.

I disagree with the Hp5. Riven is extremely easy to manage champion aggro with the shield and dash. I almost never take enough damage to justify the use of Hp5 quints. Early potions provide all the sustain I need.

 

[crownjules]

Hope you didn't try and use those exploits Nik. Anyone that Riot finds to have used them is getting their accounts permabanned.

Summoners,

If you've been playing online games for any length of time, you probably know that most games eventually have to deal with scum of the earth cheaters that enjoy ruining your experience. League of Legends is one of the largest games on the planet, and the downside is that there are more people actively working to find exploits that create an unfair advantage for other players.

That's bull****, and we're not going to allow it.

We take this seriously. Nothing is more important to us than the sanctity of our game, competitive or otherwise. As soon as we discovered the issue, we immediately dropped everything to find both immediate and permanent fixes. I'm happy to report that the immediate fix has been implemented, and we'll be restarting all regions this evening to add some redundancy which will prevent similar exploits in the future. As we continue to investigate and further analyze data, our primary commitment is identifying players affected and doing everything within our power to make it right.

Is this the end of people trying to ruin your experience? No. But we're committed to stopping this kind of behavior in its tracks, and are discussing ways to increase our monitoring and development as part of that commitment. We have comprehensive logs and data that allow us to see precisely who did what, and also who was negatively affected by this malicious behavior. We’ve identified all of the players that have been using this exploit, and we’re going to be taking firm action against their accounts.

This kind of stuff is unacceptable, and will never be tolerated by Riot Games. For those of you who have been reporting the issue, thank you! We've been deleting all threads about it in the forums to keep visibility low, but we've definitely appreciated you making us aware.

Update: We have comprehensive logs and data that allow us to see precisely who did what, and also who was negatively affected by this malicious behavior. We’ve identified all of the players that have been using this exploit, and we’re going to be taking firm action against their accounts. As we continue to investigate and further analyze data, our primary commitment is identifying players negatively affected and doing everything within our power to make it right.

 

[darkewaffle]

I don't particularly enjoy LoL but I do think Riot's response to the exploiters is a good one.

 

[zebano]

Armor Pen.

I disagree with the Hp5. Riven is extremely easy to manage champion aggro with the shield and dash. I almost never take enough damage to justify the use of Hp5 quints. Early potions provide all the sustain I need.

just an FYI by convention AP always means Ability Power in LoL. If you need to refer to armor pen and don't want to type it all out at least do ArP or ArPen.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

just an FYI by convention AP always means Ability Power in LoL. If you need to refer to armor pen and don't want to type it all out at least do ArP or ArPen.

I know. It was extreme laziness. I was hoping that it would be obvious due to Rivens AD only nature.

 

[HumblePie]

My thing, when it comes to armor pen, I find it's useless.

At low levels, the amount of damage returned from armor pen is negligible. I think if you take a character with max armor pen early on from masteries, and runes and abilities and hit someone, you are only going to get about 10 more damage total from what I remember calculating per hit. Easier to just add more AD and cheaper.

Late game it makes a difference to those without armor. When the damage of your champion is high enough that a percentage of being increased adds way more damage than AD alone for the cost. The thing is that Last Whisperer has all the armor pen you'll ever need for a champ. Anything after that is cost ineffective. I remember doing the calculations for this months ago and sharing with a few people like Thayorn over ventrillo. The math for ArPen runes is just silly. Don't bother with them. Get straight AD early to help with your early game for earlier dominance and better last hitting. ArPen is worthless except for last whisperer.