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mindless1

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To a very large extent (perhaps exclusively) the video quality is dependant on the hardware. This is standard kit, a philips tuner and Conexant ADC. There should be no difference in video quality between this and any other similar card, regardless of the drivers. Using deinterlacing type programs could be considered a software helper, but the picture still has the noise in it.

Video quality depends on clean input. These cards in general don't have sophisticated filtering as found on consumer TVs, and on a computer monitor any noise present is more easily seen. The card may be (likely is) just displaying the noise present on your analog input. The only solution is to decrease the noise, or increase signal-to-noise ratio.

I'm no expert on doing that, a Google search will find a lot more info than I can provide, but in particular be mindful of routing cables away from magnetic interferance, use (reasonably) decent quality and construction cables, connectors, and use as few (or no) splitters as possible... It's better to have a straight line unsplit to a device like this, and have split (and amplified if necessary) lines to regular TVs). Don't allow any cable lines to remain unterminated, especially not a connector cable with it's center conductor sticking out. If your entire residence has poor signal arriving at the box outside your only recourse is to have the (cable?) techinician check it, though they may bill you if you have them come inside and check YOUR internal wiring, if you've modified it in any way.
 

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How does the "Delux" model compare to the "Expert" model which is $12 more on NewEgg?
 

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Originally posted by: Muse
My initial report of improved picture with the new drivers and PVR were evidently premature. I now feel that the picture is flawed. I'll try installing a previous version of the drivers and see if there's an improvement.

Oops, scratch that! After removal of all the drivers and the PVR and installation of the new stuff, I'd neglected to change the default setting from Normal Video Quality to Optimal (right click the image, click Video Quality, pick Optimal Quality). That improved the picture dramatically.

Is it really that difficult to eliminate that lip synch problem? There should be a software solution for that, it seems to me. Even if Leadtek can't do it, there should be a software solution available elsewhere, seems to me...
 

mindless1

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mindless1 Thanks for the HTML Archive Of The First Year's Posts.. How did you do that?
Set your AT preferences to "unlimited" for number of messages per thread, take the generated HTML sent to browser and edit, remove extraneous table "data". It would've been smaller but there's only so much a simple find/replace filter will remove (I was too lazy to do a thorough job) so there's still a lot of unnecessary/garbage in the code... might confuse simple browsers, was only tried on IE.
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: Muse
Is it really that difficult to eliminate that lip synch problem? There should be a software solution for that, it seems to me. Even if Leadtek can't do it, there should be a software solution available elsewhere, seems to me...
First you might try to determine why your system isn't capturing properly, or it's possible that it IS OK but the playback is where the problem lies... It's not the hardware and I don't think it's the drivers either, at least it is possible to make in-sync captures with them. Maybe the front-end, PVR settings, but if you've already fiddled with those...

Capturing is fairly demanding of PCI bus so if you have PCI "issues" or other devices contending for bandwidth, or lot of other issues like inadequate CPU for chosen codec, or HDD recalibrating or trying to record with HDD in PM sleep mode, or codec parameters, or try a different player and/or decrease playback "features" on the player, or if it's integrated video, lower resolution or color depth if full-screen or different video card driver or ...

If the sync seems to become progressively worse the further into the file you play it, You might try changing the framerate... many video editors or a few simple utilities will allow that. If lips are ahead of voice/sound decrease the framerate, or vice-versa, if sound ahead of lips then increase framerate. Only a minor change would usually be needed, if it were off much you might not even see the people talking when you hear their voices.


Here's a simple framerate changer.
 

carmat4

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I am interested in this card.
I have comcast analog cable, but using a digital box. I have pretty much all the first 99 channels and some in the 100's . Are you guys using this card with comcast, able to get all these channels, and are you able to watch them separately from what you are watching on your tv.

Also, are you able to record pretty much anything on these channels above channel 32-99

Thanks
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: carmat4
I am interested in this card.
I have comcast analog cable, but using a digital box. I have pretty much all the first 99 channels and some in the 100's . Are you guys using this card with comcast, able to get all these channels, and are you able to watch them separately from what you are watching on your tv.

Also, are you able to record pretty much anything on these channels above channel 32-99

Thanks
It's just a regular analog tuner... if you can hook up a standard tv/vcr/etc straight to the cable and see "it", the card can too. IIRC, it can tune up to channel 125. Whatever the card shows, it can record. I don't recall much discussion about Macrovision though, and I haven't played with mine enough to known what (if anything) happens when Macrovision is (or isn't) detected. Possibly since I've never seen any Macrovision issues, it disregards Macrovision protection?
 

carmat4

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Thanks for the response, but not Im not clear on what you are saying.

My question is, if I need a box to descramble some of the analog channels. like Animal planet, TLC, Discovery, SciFi, etc. Will the card be able to receive these channels without having to lease another box. Also, if the answer is yes, can it do it independently from what ever you have tunned into on the TV at the moment. I already Know I can get the basic package channels with the card and with out a cable box, but the basic channels dont include the above mentioned channels.

I need a response please.
This is the onlly thing holding me back from purchasing this card.
 

mindless1

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Reread what I wrote. If a TV, alone, can do whatever it is you want done, so can the card, nothing more or less. It is an analog tuner, it tunes (channels). It's not a descrambler.
 

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Originally posted by: carmat4
Thanks for the response, but not Im not clear on what you are saying.

My question is, if I need a box to descramble some of the analog channels. like Animal planet, TLC, Discovery, SciFi, etc. Will the card be able to receive these channels without having to lease another box. Also, if the answer is yes, can it do it independently from what ever you have tunned into on the TV at the moment. I already Know I can get the basic package channels with the card and with out a cable box, but the basic channels dont include the above mentioned channels.

I need a response please.
This is the onlly thing holding me back from purchasing this card.

It works just like the tuner built into your TV. If you need the box to pick up certain comcast channels on your TV, you would not be able to pick up these stations with the card. I can pick up a number of stations between 100-125 with the comcast box; nada with the card.

 

nexialist

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I've been trying to download the new drivers for 3 days from the website.....it's long and slow and then ....nothing.

Anyone wlse had luck?

Dan
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: nexialist
I've been trying to download the new drivers for 3 days from the website.....it's long and slow and then ....nothing.

Anyone wlse had luck?

Dan
3 days! I haven't had a chance to try the new driver/app yet, but did manage to download.
Edit:Mirror no more.
 

nexialist

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Originally posted by: mindless1
Originally posted by: nexialist
I've been trying to download the new drivers for 3 days from the website.....it's long and slow and then ....nothing.

Anyone wlse had luck?

Dan
3 days! I haven't had a chance to try the new driver/app yet, but did manage to download. Here's a TEMPORARY mirror: app 18MB | driver 72K.


Gotit from your temp location.

Faaaast...Thanks,

Dan
 

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I am using driver version, 5.13.1.243 (WDM drivers) Everythings been working fine for the past 6mts of owning the card. I usually dont update a driver unless theres a big advantage, or something isnt working (if it aint broken, dont fix it). Can anyone confirm the new driver is worth installing?
 

mindless1

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Well I just installed the new 12/19 driver and 12/16 app... FM player has similar(?) error to last version, that when cursor goes near the app window, it errs, closes. Now I'm starting to wonder, what if I disabled OS "popups" or (whatever related setting) but the Winfast FM app was still trying to do a popup... hmm, I know there's a proper name for those OS popups but it escapes me at the moment.

Anyway, I close the app and restart, can then successfully hover mouse around it and record, and for the first time ever, when the recording is stopped I get a NEW window. SOmeone take a look at this window, was that in the previous versions but mine wasn't showing it, or is this a new/change?
 

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Originally posted by: wctkdX
Well, here is something I had programmed for this card, it can control Winamp, Zoomplayer, DScaler and a bunch of other functions to control your computer.

http://www.unr.nevada.edu/~dluong/WinfastGML.zip

It needs a program called Girder to use. I am not working on this anymore because it works fine for me as it is. If someone else wants to improve on it, I would like to see the results. There is a pretty big readme that should take care of any questions that may come up about it.




I have updated it, fixing the problem with the remote failing to work after hibernation. Please get the updated file if you have those problems.

i just got mine! but i'm wondering if anyone else with this card has tried using this program w/it and how it performs?
 

lnd54321

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Hi,

I try to whatching TV with this card, I had plug in the antena cable and everything but still no TV for me. I don't have cable, just try to get some local channel but have no luck. Do I have to setting anything with this or just install the software and play ?

Another question is if I have a DTV, can I whatching TV on the computer with this card. I try to record some movie from DTV.

Thank you for reading.

lnd54321