LEADTEK WINFAST "DELUXE" TV2000XP TV/FM MULTIMEDIA CARD - RETAIL BOX (UPDATE: NOW $42.00 shipped!) @ Newegg!

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iluvdeal

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I have a question for all you owners of this card, would you recommend it for converting VHS tapes to VCD/divx files? I'm looking to clear up some space in my room my getting rid of my tape collection. I don't need the card for its TV/FM function since my TV is right next to my computer.

 

DaCurryman

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Originally posted by: novon
The expert version is now available on new egg for $15 more
What are the main differences between Deluxe, Expert, and, the DV2000 version of WinFast cards?
 

mindless1

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DaCurryman

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I read that, but it just like reading an ad....I'm wondering from ppl's views on what they think is worth the upgrade and what isnt. As far as I can really tell they do they same job on video.
 

JBT

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10 bit is only for recording not the viewing of it so if u just watching TV it won't be any different.
 

mindless1

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I'm sure I forget a few differences, but:

Deluxe: 8 bit, full height but relatively short, external audio patch cable to sound card audio-in jack

Expert: 10 bit, half height but longer, internal audio cable

DV2000: 10 bit, full height but longer (than Deluxe), adds firewire


I find it hard to swallow paying so much more for a DV2000 when a separate firewire card costs less than the difference between the DV2000 and Expert. For the price of the DV2000 you might find another make of card offering hardware MPEG compression, though that's not what everyone wants, I usually capture to Divx instead... used to use MJPEG on a different card and every now and then I STILL keep checking the HDD, expecting it to be nearly full after recording something, only to be reminded that over 90% of it is empty still... bigger HDD but it's mostly thanks to Divx.
 

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I don't have time to read through the 24 pages of messages to this thread, so I'll venture this:

Price is now $45 with free shipping and now they are throwing in a newegg t-shirt with the deal.
 

mnkyboy311

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Originally posted by: mindless1
I usually capture to Divx instead... used to use MJPEG on a different card and every now and then I STILL keep checking the HDD, expecting it to be nearly full after recording something, only to be reminded that over 90% of it is empty still... bigger HDD but it's mostly thanks to Divx.


Originally posted by: mindless1
I usually capture to Divx instead... used to use MJPEG on a different card and every now and then I STILL keep checking the HDD, expecting it to be nearly full after recording something, only to be reminded that over 90% of it is empty still... bigger HDD but it's mostly thanks to Divx.

How must cpu power does it take to capture at Divx compared to mpeg1 or 2? Do you ever get audio/video sync problems? I usually capture at my custom setting, DVD compliant, but mpeg2 "normal" level quality. This allows me to burn to DVD if I want to.

Does anyone know any type of hardware I can by to clean my signal up a little? Ive tried an ampifier, but it didnt seem to help any.
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: mnkyboy311 How must cpu power does it take to capture at Divx compared to mpeg1 or 2? Do you ever get audio/video sync problems? I usually capture at my custom setting, DVD compliant, but mpeg2 "normal" level quality. This allows me to burn to DVD if I want to.

Does anyone know any type of hardware I can by to clean my signal up a little? Ive tried an ampifier, but it didnt seem to help any.
I haven't compared the CPU utilization. I first put the card in a 1.8GHz Athlon system and surprisingly have left it there. I don't necessarily have any need for the DVDs though, have a different media-player system hooked up to a fairly large TV, and another slated for the future. I suppose I'm being optimistic that if i keep making Divx, someday the standalone players will be in the market, and it's a whole lot easier not mucking around with CDRs or DVDs (and thanks to Anandtech it seems fairly inexpensive to buy a few HDDs now and then.

I made a few suggestions previously about how to get better signal, briefly: good wiring/connectors, no (or minimal splitters) and check the signal quality where it enters the house to be sure the (cable?) company's getting a clean signal to you. If you can't get any other remedy there's the option of capturing to highest bitrate possible or lossless codec and using some noise filters in an editor (VirtualDub is among those you could use) then recompress to final output format, but that's big hassle IMHO, since it requires going back and "fixing" and the recompression & editing time... much better to go what you can to get clean signal and never have to touch it afterwards. I'm not completely satisfied with my singal quality yet either, but it's much better than how it started (when I got the card). We had an intermittent fault in the neighboorhood though, so probably started with worse signal than most. For a while the cable modem kept dropping the connection too, so it was easy to know calling the cable co. was needed.

I do sometimes get AV sync problems, but it seems less often than prevously... oen thing that helped was reverting the divx codec to basic playback, none of the extra options are set in Windows media player... so it seems it wasn't always the capture that was out of sync. When the sync problems do occur I may change the framerate some with "AVIFrate", which I linked to a few posts ago.
 

mnkyboy311

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Originally posted by: mindless1
I made a few suggestions previously about how to get better signal, briefly: good wiring/connectors, no (or minimal splitters) and check the signal quality where it enters the house to be sure the (cable?) company's getting a clean signal to you.



Well, i have the cable split on the outiside of the house (3way). One lead is going to my living room (near the splitter), the 2nd lead is going to my office (next to the living room) and the 3rd lead is going to my bedroom in the back of my house. I have another splitter at my computer, 1st lead going to my cable modem, 2nd going to the tv card.

The picture quality seems alot better on the 2 tvs that I have compared to the computer. Could interference from all of my computer cables be a problem? I did change a wire from a slid on to a screw on for the tv tuner, but it didnt help the signal/quality much. Any other suggestions?
 

mindless1

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Originally posted by: mnkyboy311
Originally posted by: mindless1
I made a few suggestions previously about how to get better signal, briefly: good wiring/connectors, no (or minimal splitters) and check the signal quality where it enters the house to be sure the (cable?) company's getting a clean signal to you.


Well, i have the cable split on the outiside of the house (3way). One lead is going to my living room (near the splitter), the 2nd lead is going to my office (next to the living room) and the 3rd lead is going to my bedroom in the back of my house. I have another splitter at my computer, 1st lead going to my cable modem, 2nd going to the tv card.

The picture quality seems alot better on the 2 tvs that I have compared to the computer. Could interference from all of my computer cables be a problem? I did change a wire from a slid on to a screw on for the tv tuner, but it didnt help the signal/quality much. Any other suggestions?
It's possible your computer gear, cabling is an issue, but probably not unless you have an AC cable running right next to it, VERY close/touching for a distance. Otherwise a wall-wart (transformer) or the rear of the monitor might be a problem, but again only if very close to the cable.

You may need to move the TV and/or computer around temporarily to see if the noise is present on either device at the other location. A computer (monitor) and capture card will make any existing noise more visible than a TV would... Even captured video that looks poor on a computer can look halfway decent on a TV.

If you have a straight coupler handy, NOT a splitter, you might temporarily unhook the splitter where it enters the house, use the straight coupler to get a single line connected, going straight to the computer and temporarily remove the splitter to the cable modem too, see if that makes a difference. I suspect it will, at least a little better or maybe a lot. Splitters are very bad for signal strength, the more the signal is degraded the more the noise shows up. If it does help, then you have a better idea of what's wrong but only you can make the call on what has to happen... I ended up placing my cable modem on another cable run, split with a TV... already had CAT5 strung to the TV so it wasn't a big deal... no visual feedback on the LEDs from router or cable modem while I sit at my main system now, but it's easy enough to know when/if one's down by pinging router or cable co. equipment & thereafter or accessing router interface.
 

NTNgod

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BTW, new drivers and WinPVR up for the Deluxe (dated 12/31):
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/support/download.asp?pronameid=82

Somewhere along the way with the WinPVR updates I lost 352x480 mode (half-D1) - hopefully this update will restore it :)
(I can cap in 352x480 with other apps, so it isn't the drivers)


UPDATED DRIVER NOTE: Despite the date of 12/31, looking at the file size and dates, the drivers appear to be the exact same set as the previous release. Windows seems to agree.
 

adams828

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hey i just got this, and my signal is kinda fuzzy.. now i'm pretty sure it's b/c the cable is split so many times.. is there no way to get a better signal besides trying to get a line that isn't split?
 

IPLaw

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Will the leadtek cards bring my PC out of standby to record TV, or would I need to disable standby after x minutes?

Thanks!
 

psloan

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I instlled the new app. The channel changing seems faster and smother. Picture quality seems better too.

--pat
 

paker

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I have 2 problems with the 2000XP deluxe. One is I cannot record in FM. I get an error when I start the FM radio that says "cannot open recording device". Is this normal?
The other problem is audio recording from the TV. From the computer it sounds great, but the recorded sound sounds hollow and over modulated. I'm using an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I don't know if it's the card settings or the NFORCE drivers that are the problem. Nothing I've tried has corrected the problem. Otherwise this card is great.
Can anyone help?
 

kt

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Originally posted by: technogeeky
Originally posted by: mnkyboy311
Originally posted by: Silex
Damn. If you guys don't mind me asking, how come this thread is so friggen long?

Because this card KICKS AZZ!!

What does it do that is so great? Is it good at recording?

They are overhyping it. I ordered this card last week and have been playing around with it. Not too impressed by it. But it does do what I want it to do. I am satisfied with my purchase, but I am not excited by it.