LEADTEK WINFAST "DELUXE" TV2000XP TV/FM MULTIMEDIA CARD - RETAIL BOX (UPDATE: NOW $42.00 shipped!) @ Newegg!

[Muse]

Originally posted by: ZakPC

Originally posted by: Muse
Oh, yeah. I understand that. However, let's be correct here. As far as this card is concerned, the term "latest drivers" shouldn't come into play. There are "the drivers", period. Again, if I'm wrong, by all means tell me. I would LOVE to see updated drivers. I know there are issues. I've left them a voice mail (about 7 - 10 days ago) and sent an email (2 days ago, a Saturday) and have yet to hear from them.

What you're really saying here is "don't wink at me mf'er!"
j/k
anyway - you're correct - "latest" is not necessary when they are the only drivers

No, no. I don't mind being winked at, particularly in an Anandtech post. I've always thought it looked real cool, although I've only done it once or so, don't know why. I got an email reply, and promptly too, from Leadtek support today concerning my problem of my machine not shutting down properly with the video capture driver enabled. The technician suggested trying another slot for the card. I'm thinking it a long shot but I will give it a try.

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: jinduy

Originally posted by: yepper

Originally posted by: jinduy
Has anyone had any trouble running the FM tuner? it always crashes on me when i turn it on but the tv tuner is fine...anyone have a suggestion? i'm pretty sure the drivers are correct...

What OS are you running? Did you install the latest and greatest drivers and app?

i'm running on win 2k, and yes i have the current drivers

I would fill in an online request for tech support at the Leadtek website.

I did Saturday morning and got a reply today, Monday.

What kind of crashes are you getting when you launch the FM? Any messages?

 

[1Cheap2Crazy]

slightly OT, but is anyone having trouble connecting to newegg tonight? All I get is their Policy and Agreement page. I was thinking of ordering this card.

 

[zettler]

I just got in to NewEgg at 11 PM CST. Plus, I bit the bullet (see Prior page) and ordered this today and its already been shipped FedEx. Not too bad...

 

[yepper]

Originally posted by: Muse
Well, it's only happened that one time yesterday, so who knows? Yes, I'm going to change the file system on that partition to NTFS, and that's the first thing I thought. Actually I suspected that it happened when it was changing files but I don't believe it was. I may use WMP too. Does it have FF, different speeds FF/REW? That would be real nice. In fact, I wish I could FF in discreet amounts - e.g. 30 sec. 1 min. 2 min., 3 min. etc. Trying to find the end of a commercial break with the mouse isn't easy.

I could replay that same section of video again and see if it BSOD's... Will try that.

Edit: This time, no BSOD at that spot.

The answer is no to all of the discrete file navigation questions. Strictly play and jump around the file with the mouse. I'd be interested in a player that could do discrete navigation. It would be cool if the player remembered where I was in the file so I could continue watching/listening from the same spot some other time. Anybody have any suggestions?

 

[ZakPC]

Originally posted by: Muse

Originally posted by: ZakPC

Originally posted by: Muse
Oh, yeah. I understand that. However, let's be correct here. As far as this card is concerned, the term "latest drivers" shouldn't come into play. There are "the drivers", period. Again, if I'm wrong, by all means tell me. I would LOVE to see updated drivers. I know there are issues. I've left them a voice mail (about 7 - 10 days ago) and sent an email (2 days ago, a Saturday) and have yet to hear from them.

What you're really saying here is "don't wink at me mf'er!"
j/k
anyway - you're correct - "latest" is not necessary when they are the only drivers

No, no. I don't mind being winked at, particularly in an Anandtech post. I've always thought it looked real cool, although I've only done it once or so, don't know why. I got an email reply, and promptly too, from Leadtek support today concerning my problem of my machine not shutting down properly with the video capture driver enabled. The technician suggested trying another slot for the card. I'm thinking it a long shot but I will give it a try.

Huh...Very interesting. My PC takes a bit too long to shutdown too and I do have my ATI TV VE sharing an IRQ w/ my NIC....I'd try moving one but I'm plum out of slots
Please post your results (if you haven't already - haven't gotten to the bottom yet)

 

[coolred]

I have a question, I have been debating about buying on eof these. But my next system is likely to be a shuttle XPC and I am not sure if this is the best use for a PCI slot. I was wondering how good the TV image compared to that of the 8500DV and the 9700 AIW Pro. I know the 9700 pro TV should look at least a little better then my 8500DV due to it using videosoap. So how does this card compare to them? It if its worse or just very very close, I will likely end up with the AIW 9700 Pro, just to save the PCI slot. But if the leadtek card is far superior then i will consider it more. Forgive me if this question has already been asked or answered, but there are more then a few posts in this thread and i just don't have the time to read them all.

Due to the high amount of posts in this thread if you would prefer to PM me, that would be fine

 

[draggoon01]

is there way to control audio stream?

sometimes when i'm flipping around channels, if the channel has sap, it'll play both. so i press 's' on keyboard to select what i want. problem is i use avi-io to capture, and there's no way to control the audio. is there some way to make it default to stereo/mono all the time instead of ever playing sap?

 

[EvilYoda]

Mine came today, after shipping on Monday at 5! Man I love NewEgg...anyway, testing this thing out, it's all working fine, but I'm wondering if I'm using DScaler correctly or not, does anybody have a good website to read through or anything?

 

[Muse]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Mine came today, after shipping on Monday at 5! Man I love NewEgg...anyway, testing this thing out, it's all working fine, but I'm wondering if I'm using DScaler correctly or not, does anybody have a good website to read through or anything?

Can you use any of the Winfast software (or drivers) while using DScaler or do you have to forgo all the Winfast features?

 

[LakerGod]

Quick question...i dunno if this was already mentioned in the thread. I have one cable coming in with a spliter, one wire going straight to the TV and one going to my cable modem. If i get this card, will i have to purchase another splitter and split the wire going to the TV? Would this affect my cable modem connection?

 

[geckojohn]

Originally posted by: LakerGod
Quick question...i dunno if this was already mentioned in the thread. I have one cable coming in with a spliter, one wire going straight to the TV and one going to my cable modem. If i get this card, will i have to purchase another splitter and split the wire going to the TV? Would this affect my cable modem connection?

lakergoddess,

Yes, the best option would be to get a 3-way splitter. One going to your tv, tv tuner card, and cable modem.

This would not affect your cable modem connection. It will only be disconnected when you are adding/removing the splitter.

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: coolred
I have a question, I have been debating about buying on eof these. But my next system is likely to be a shuttle XPC and I am not sure if this is the best use for a PCI slot. I was wondering how good the TV image compared to that of the 8500DV and the 9700 AIW Pro. I know the 9700 pro TV should look at least a little better then my 8500DV due to it using videosoap. So how does this card compare to them? It if its worse or just very very close, I will likely end up with the AIW 9700 Pro, just to save the PCI slot. But if the leadtek card is far superior then i will consider it more. Forgive me if this question has already been asked or answered, but there are more then a few posts in this thread and i just don't have the time to read them all.

Due to the high amount of posts in this thread if you would prefer to PM me, that would be fine

I am also VERY interested in a comparison between this card and the AIW 8500DV or AIW 9700 Pro. I already bought this card, but I am seriously debating whether to get the AIW 8500DV/9700 Pro as well. Mine will go in a full fledged desktop home theater PC, so I am not constrained by the number of available slots. My primary deciding criteria is the picture quality on the TV and the usability and feature set of the bundled PVR software.

So if someone can compare the picture quality (on TV) of this LeadTek card with that of the AIW 8500DV or 9700 Pro, I would highly appreciate it. I would only like to get the AIW cards if the TV picture quality is significantly better than the LeadTek ... otherwise I can't really justify the additional cost.

I am also curious about a comparison between the PVR capability of these cards. I am looking for something that is as close to Tivo as possible (I already have a Tivo ... so don't tell me to get a Tivo instead of these cards ).

P.S. coolred: both the AIW 8500DV and the 9700 Pro are AGP cards whereas the LeadTek card is PCI ... so you are not really saving a PCI slot by not using the AIW card.

 

[coolred]

P.S. coolred: both the AIW 8500DV and the 9700 Pro are AGP cards whereas the LeadTek card is PCI ... so you are not really saving a PCI slot by not using the AIW card.

Well since I plan to have a video card in the system either way, i would be saving the PCI slot by getting an AIW. I mean inthe shuttle there is 1 AGP slot and 1 PCI slot. If i get the AIW then only the AGP slot is used. If I get a regular video card and the ledtek, then the AGP slot is used by the vid card and the PCI slot is used by the leadtek card.
But I still would like to see a roundup review of all the current popular TV tuner cards and AIW products.

 

[zettler]

Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Mine came today, after shipping on Monday at 5! Man I love NewEgg...anyway, testing this thing out, it's all working fine, but I'm wondering if I'm using DScaler correctly or not, does anybody have a good website to read through or anything?

I have to agree. I ordered mine on Monday and received it today in central IL from CA. Will install tomorrow to see if it was worth the money and effort....

Thanks!

 

[BuckMaster]

Can anyone tell me if this card will work with Windows XP Media Center Edition? I plain on buying a Asus A7N266-VM AA board and building a Media Machine to screw around with.

Thanks!

 

[ZakPC]

Originally posted by: BuckMaster
Can anyone tell me if this card will work with Windows XP Media Center Edition? I plain on buying a Asus A7N266-VM AA board and building a Media Machine to screw around with.

Thanks!

Sorry I'm not answering your question but you may want to consider an Asus A7N8X or A7N8X Deluxe instead of the A7N266
The MCP2/MCP2-T southbridge is made for media - in fact, that's what the "M" stands for
nForce Platform Processors
Of course the drawback is the non-Deluxe will probably run almost $50 more and the Deluxe would be about $70 more then the A7N266-VM
Just a suggestion if you've got a little more in the budget....

 

[BuckMaster]

NP Thanks for the reply!

Noted!

 

[draggoon01]

Originally posted by: draggoon01
is there way to control audio stream?

sometimes when i'm flipping around channels, if the channel has sap, it'll play both. so i press 's' on keyboard to select what i want. problem is i use avi-io to capture, and there's no way to control the audio. is there some way to make it default to stereo/mono all the time instead of ever playing sap?

anyone?

 

[geckojohn]

Originally posted by: draggoon01

Originally posted by: draggoon01
is there way to control audio stream?

sometimes when i'm flipping around channels, if the channel has sap, it'll play both. so i press 's' on keyboard to select what i want. problem is i use avi-io to capture, and there's no way to control the audio. is there some way to make it default to stereo/mono all the time instead of ever playing sap?

anyone?

No

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: BuckMaster
Can anyone tell me if this card will work with Windows XP Media Center Edition? I plain on buying a Asus A7N266-VM AA board and building a Media Machine to screw around with.

Thanks!

BuckMaster: First, a question - where are you getting Win XP Media Center stand alone ? As far as I know MS is not selling a consumer edition of the OS yet and it is only being bundled with Media Center PCs.

Now to answer your question - No this card will not work with the Windows XP Media Center edition ... at least in its current form. The short explanation is because this card doesn't have a hardware MPEG2 encoder (as far as I know). For the long answer, see the review of ATI AIW 9700 Pro. Here is a snippet from that review --

We do have one caveat about the card as it stands now. You may or may not be aware that Microsoft recently put the finishing touches on Windows XP Media Center Edition, a version of Microsoft Windows XP Professional that includes TIVO-type applications for watching, recording, and shifting television. We have had a chance to play around with XP Media Center Edition and are very pleased with the final product which is why we were disappointed to hear that, as it stands, Windows XP Media Center Edition will not run properly on the All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro. According to Microsoft, one of the requirements for the new operating system is a fully hardware-based MPEG-2 encoder. Although the All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro can do part of the encode process in hardware, it is not a fully hardware based MPEG-2 encoder and therefore will likely not work with Windows XP Media Center Edition as it stands now.

When discussing this with ATI, the company was quick to point out that Windows XP Media Center Edition is being offered as an OEM only operating systems and Microsoft has no plans to bring it to the consumer shelf any time soon, both of which are statements that are true. In fact, currently the only way to get Windows XP Media Center Edition is to buy a new machine from HP with the software installed on it, meaning that even if you wanted to get a All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro on a Media Center Edition PC you would have to buy a new computer with the OS on it, take the old video card and tuner out, and put the All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro in.

We suspect that plans are in the works to bring Windows XP Media Center Edition to the consumer market, but not for a while now. In that time, the OS will likely go through revisions to make it more hardware friendly (the system, right now, is only certified to work with one MPEG-2 encoder which isn't even available on the retail channel). Odds are that when or if Windows XP Media Center edition finds its way into the consumer market it will support the All-in-Wonder 9700 Pro, but we cannot be certain. Just a word of caution for those who were planning to get an All-in-Wonder 9700, Windows XP Media Center Edition, and run.

 

[BuckMaster]

BuckMaster: First, a question - where are you getting Win XP Media Center stand alone ? As far as I know MS is not selling a consumer edition of the OS yet and it is only being bundled with Media Center PCs.

I work for a company that has over 17,000 users. We have microsoft venders in all the time because we buy so much software,we get demos and extra software to beta test.


So the card Capture format profilesays it support friendly setting for MPEG-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/WMV/VCD/DVD video and MP3/WMA audio encoding format.


but doesnt encode Mpeg2?
As you can see Im just starting and have much to read and learn.
Thanks!

 

[psxjunky]

Originally posted by: BuckMaster

BuckMaster: First, a question - where are you getting Win XP Media Center stand alone ? As far as I know MS is not selling a consumer edition of the OS yet and it is only being bundled with Media Center PCs.

I work for a company that has over 17,000 users. We have microsoft venders in all the time because we buy so much software,we get demos and extra software to beta test.

I see. Wish I was as lucky as you ... I would love to get my hands on the WinXP Media Center edition.

So the card Capture format profilesays it support friendly setting for MPEG-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/WMV/VCD/DVD video and MP3/WMA audio encoding format.


but doesnt encode Mpeg2?
As you can see Im just starting and have much to read and learn.
Thanks!

The way I read this, it seems this card does the MPEG2 encoding in software (that's probably one reason why this card is so cheap); that's why it can use a number of different software codecs to encode in pretty much any format you want.

 

[ZakPC]

Originally posted by: psxjunky

Originally posted by: BuckMaster

BuckMaster: First, a question - where are you getting Win XP Media Center stand alone ? As far as I know MS is not selling a consumer edition of the OS yet and it is only being bundled with Media Center PCs.

I work for a company that has over 17,000 users. We have microsoft venders in all the time because we buy so much software,we get demos and extra software to beta test.

So the card Capture format profilesays it support friendly setting for MPEG-1/MPEG-2/MPEG-4/WMV/VCD/DVD video and MP3/WMA audio encoding format.


but doesnt encode Mpeg2?
As you can see Im just starting and have much to read and learn.
Thanks!

The way I read this, it seems this card does the MPEG2 encoding in software (that's probably one reason why this card is so cheap); that's why it can use a number of different software codecs to encode in pretty much any format you want.

What is APU?:
MSI K7N2G-ILSR Encodes in APU

BTW - I had to pick up one of those Asus Deluxe boards today w/ a Barton 2800+ from newegg
can't wait for those deliveries

 

[catrats]

Actually, you forgot to copy the line about it as well. It should read:

Dolby Digital 5.1 Audio Format Encodes in APU

and if you look further down the page in the "nVIDIA® nForce2 MCP-T Chipset" section, it explains it.

- Audio Processing Unit(APU) encodes audio in Dolby® Digital 5.1 format for full surround sound effects