don't buy them. leadtek 6800GT is poop. i bought one new and had to send it back because of artifacts in 2 machines i tried it in. the RMA i got would make one machine go black screen randomly and freeze and sometimes i'd have to power down for a few seconds to get it to even POST again. the other machine would have crazy lines like a channel on your TV just went weird and freeze. the 2nd RMA seems to be working fine so far.
oh.. FYI: i bought them NEW, not refurb.
oh.. FYI: i bought them NEW, not refurb.