Plasma all the way. I have a Panasonic plasma, and its the best electronics purchase ive ever made.
plasma is far better for actual tv viewing i'd say.
generally better viewing angles, better contrast, etc.
they arent very good for say a media center because they use non square pixels. i think that is the big thing. plasmas generally dont appear at less than 40 ", and plasmas generally are cheaper when its of an equivalent size.
i personally like the glossy coat, so thats a plus for me.
generally better viewing angles, better contrast, etc.
they arent very good for say a media center because they use non square pixels. i think that is the big thing. plasmas generally dont appear at less than 40 ", and plasmas generally are cheaper when its of an equivalent size.
i personally like the glossy coat, so thats a plus for me.
Not true in general-- there are a few plasmas out there that use rectangular pixels, but they are to be avoided anyways. Most plasmas, like most LCDs, use square pixels.
I think a bigger issue, though, is hardware resolution. I don't know who came up with the idea of using 1366 x 768 pixels for a high-def device (meaning you have to slightly upconvert from 720p or greatly downconvert from 1080i or 1080p-- resulting in a less than optimal picture which is made even worse with hardware sharpness "enhancement"). Well, actually I do know... but it still very lame.
Picture quality differences aside, in general I would recommend LCD if you have a bright room and/or you don't want/need a REALLY wide viewing angle. I would recommend a plasma if you have a darker room (or room where you can control the lighting) and/or want/need a wide viewing angle.
But in the end, it all comes down to what YOU like...
alkemyst
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If you are using a lower end CRT that is.
The rest of your post was glaring generalizations most of which are wrong or only half-right.
Without budget no one can really answer what's best for the OP...not to mention what screen size he is shooting for.
1sikbITCH
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Having both, I prefer the plasmas' warmth over the crisper picture (in my opinion) of the LCD's. My LCD's look harsh next to the plasmas. And with the new mpeg4 HD from Directv, the HD plasma is looking every bit as sharp as the LCD so that's a non-issue anyhow.
For the record I have an old 42" panny EDTV, last year's 50" HD panny, a Dell 2001FP LCD monitor which I have used as my tv in our bedroom for a while, and an Olevia 26" HD LCD. Granted, the quality of the LCD's is not the same as the plasmas, but when I have any kind of money to spend on a tv, I just prefer the plasmas.
For the record I have an old 42" panny EDTV, last year's 50" HD panny, a Dell 2001FP LCD monitor which I have used as my tv in our bedroom for a while, and an Olevia 26" HD LCD. Granted, the quality of the LCD's is not the same as the plasmas, but when I have any kind of money to spend on a tv, I just prefer the plasmas.
I love the bogus analysis and FUD and generalizations.
Get the biggest and best 1080p display you can afford, if you can't afford the one you want then wait a few months.
I hate my 42" display, I really, really do. It's too freaking small. I also hate having to gush over and massage people that buy a 42" HDTV, no matter what the model on how great it is.
People, understand that you sit way too far away to appreciate trueHD. Save your money, get a proper display at the proper distance or else you will not enjoy HD.
Get the biggest and best 1080p display you can afford, if you can't afford the one you want then wait a few months.
I hate my 42" display, I really, really do. It's too freaking small. I also hate having to gush over and massage people that buy a 42" HDTV, no matter what the model on how great it is.
People, understand that you sit way too far away to appreciate trueHD. Save your money, get a proper display at the proper distance or else you will not enjoy HD.
1. I looked at hundreds of LCDs and plasmas in my search for an HDTV and the viewing angles on plasmas were larger than most LCDs. Viewing angle is generally a plus in the plasma column.
6. LCDs are far more expensive than comparable plasmas at larger sizes.
I would also argue the burn-in issue. Any image retention (which is rare) can usually be fixed by running a full screen movie for a few minutes.
What formula/calculator did you use to determine ideal viewing distance for a given screen size, or vice versa?
Wow. I'm looking for a 46" LCD right now and according to that chart, I would have to sit 8 feet away from the set to obtain the full benefit of 720p. That distance is much shorter than what I thought, and certainly smaller than what I see at everyone else's house I know who owns an HDTV, and the largest set I have seen at others' houses is only 50".
Take the top of the line LCD, Sony Bravia XBR5 and pit that against Pioneer's Elite Plasma. Which is more expensive? Something tells me the Pioneer costs more.
The 52" Sony Bravia XBR5 LCD is $4,300 at Amazon.com.
The 50" Pioneer PDP-5010FD can be had for less than $3,500.
But wait, the 5010FD isn't the top of the Pioneer line! You are correct, those are the Elites however the only real difference between the Elites and non-Elites is tweakability and warranty. The panels are basically exactly the same.
You don't need the Elite line to beat the Sony. All you need is the Pioneer 6010 which sells for about the same price as the Sony XBR5 52" (~$4300). And the Pioneer is a 60"! But if you want to go all out for the TOP of the line Pioneer Elite (60" 150FD), you can get it for ~$5500. Which is a fantastic price for the baddest HDTV on the market. And yeah, it slaps the Sony around. I'll give it to Sony though, they have the best LCD HDTV out now. But, they can't touch the Kuros.
Like others have said, the person buying the HDTV needs to look at the sets first hand and decide which set THEY like.
You also have to keep processing in mind. The less processing the better the picture.
I agree most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p but I personally think I can when I am gaming 5 feet from my 50" screen or watching a movie. I normally sit 12" away while watching TV and agree it is virtually impossible to see the difference.
RossMAN
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A quality Pioneer or Panasonic plasma will obliterate even the top LCD's in just about every PQ category. I was a huge LCD supporter until I saw some quality plasma displays. I bought a Panasonic 1080P 42" plasma and never looked back. If you desire natural, film-like picture then plasma is your best bet. The old arguments about power consumption, burn-in, poor resolution, are largely untrue of most modern plasmas. Just be mindful of how you watch your plasma for the 1st 100 hours and you should be good to go from there. BTW I game on my PS3 a lot and have seen no burn-in at all.
moot point, pioneer elite is the grand daddy top of line tv. MOST lcds are more expensive than plasmas on a per-surface-area basis. if you want to keep the comparison to the elite, then its PQ blows away any LCD period.
plasmas have superior viewing angles. thats an incontrovertible topic
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