Law enforcement target practice with images of young children.

[Ackmed]

I would be a terrible cop.

I would use logic when assessing situations and would think twice before blindly shooting a 6 year old little boy in the face.

That goes against everything that they're trained to do.. Look once, shoot until the magazine is empty and make sure your own ass is covered at any cost.

You're an idiot. Not other that, an ignorant, bias idiot.

 

[RampantAndroid]

You're an idiot. Not other that, an ignorant, bias idiot.

...given what he described is how most cops operate, he's right. Are you a cop, or is a family member a cop?

 

[dabuddha]

...given what he described is how most cops operate, he's right. Are you a cop, or is a family member a cop?

He's as wrong as you are.

 

[Doppel]

Militarizing/desensitizing of police.

 

[RampantAndroid]

He's as wrong as you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo_shooting

I remember that being reported when I was a lot younger. It sickened me as a very young teenager. It still sickens me today. There are some decent cops, and I've dealt with a couple. Most cops I've ever dealt with though range from disgusting pieces of shit who need to hit the gym to assholes on power trips. The same goes for a lot of vets I'm around - some are great people. Some are assholes with a holier than thou "I served and you didn't" attitude going and some amount of hatred for the world.

You go ahead and proclaim I'm wrong, but personal experience and any amount of looking around online finds that cops are in dire need of reform.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo_shooting

I remember that being reported when I was a lot younger. It sickened me as a very young teenager. It still sickens me today. There are some decent cops, and I've dealt with a couple. Most cops I've ever dealt with though range from disgusting pieces of shit who need to hit the gym to assholes on power trips. The same goes for a lot of vets I'm around - some are great people. Some are assholes with a holier than thou "I served and you didn't" attitude going and some amount of hatred for the world.

You go ahead and proclaim I'm wrong, but personal experience and any amount of looking around online finds that cops are in dire need of reform.

Well who could argue with such logic. I mean you have an incident. Clearly that paints a broad example of every person in that group.

Much like all catholics molest children since, well, some priests have.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Well who could argue with such logic. I mean you have an incident. Clearly that paints a broad example of every person in that group.

Much like all catholics molest children since, well, some priests have.

You serious? This stuff happens ALL the time.

Hell, it's so rampant and accepted within the thin blue line that even former officers are "losing it" and going on rampages to try and publicize just how bad things are.


Yes, there are good officers here and there, but they are far FAR outnumbered by corrupt gang members who will cover their ass at ANY cost.

And, the very last thing we need to do is train trigger happy gang members to blindly shoot a 6 year old child if he just so happens to be holding something (a leash, a water gun, a wallet) that looks like a gun.


I can see it now.. Officer driving by playground, 6 year old boy makes a 'gun finger', Officer unloads his magazine into the child.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo_shooting

I remember that being reported when I was a lot younger. It sickened me as a very young teenager. It still sickens me today. There are some decent cops, and I've dealt with a couple. Most cops I've ever dealt with though range from disgusting pieces of shit who need to hit the gym to assholes on power trips. The same goes for a lot of vets I'm around - some are great people. Some are assholes with a holier than thou "I served and you didn't" attitude going and some amount of hatred for the world.

You go ahead and proclaim I'm wrong, but personal experience and any amount of looking around online finds that cops are in dire need of reform.

Very VERY lucky they didn't plant a gun on him. Those street beat cops are known for carrying around guns recovered from crime scenes to plant on people in cases just like this.

 

[glenn1]

You serious? This stuff happens ALL the time.

Hell, it's so rampant and accepted within the thin blue line that even former officers are "losing it" and going on rampages to try and publicize just how bad things are.


Yes, there are good officers here and there, but they are far FAR outnumbered by corrupt gang members who will cover their ass at ANY cost.

And, the very last thing we need to do is train trigger happy gang members to blindly shoot a 6 year old child if he just so happens to be holding something (a leash, a water gun, a wallet) that looks like a gun.


I can see it now.. Officer driving by playground, 6 year old boy makes a 'gun finger', Officer unloads his magazine into the child.

That's why I support the idea of de-policing. Urban liberals and inner city minorities can then enjoy their city without worries of cops on the rampage.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That's why I support the idea of de-policing. Urban liberals and inner city minorities can then enjoy their city without worries of cops on the rampage.

All I expect is accountability. I would be perfectly satisfied with them having to wear gopros that cannot be shut off or manipulated, which upload video via wireless.

 

[glenn1]

All I expect is accountability. I would be perfectly satisfied with them having to wear gopros that cannot be shut off or manipulated, which upload video via wireless.

So your idea of "accountability" is using video technology to second guess their every decision with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and your personal judgement of what the "correct" course of action would have been? And then you wonder why the de-policing strategy I just linked to sounds appealing to many cops?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You serious? This stuff happens ALL the time.

Hell, it's so rampant and accepted within the thin blue line that even former officers are "losing it" and going on rampages to try and publicize just how bad things are.


Yes, there are good officers here and there, but they are far FAR outnumbered by corrupt gang members who will cover their ass at ANY cost.

And, the very last thing we need to do is train trigger happy gang members to blindly shoot a 6 year old child if he just so happens to be holding something (a leash, a water gun, a wallet) that looks like a gun.


I can see it now.. Officer driving by playground, 6 year old boy makes a 'gun finger', Officer unloads his magazine into the child.

As someone who spent years as a cop I feel very confident in saying your claims are complete bullshit.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

As someone who spent years as a cop I feel very confident in saying your claims are complete bullshit.

Once a part of the gang, always a part of the gang.

You know, unless you make a complaint against another gang member. Then you're kicked out.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

So your idea of "accountability" is using video technology to second guess their every decision with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight and your personal judgement of what the "correct" course of action would have been? And then you wonder why the de-policing strategy I just linked to sounds appealing to many cops?

You're acting like these officers are building kitchen appliances or something.. They hold your life in their hands, literally on their trigger finger.


When you're talking about killing a rival gang member, sorry I meant civilian, then yes I want them to be held accountable. They have the power to put you in jail for life, or worse.

 

[DougK62]

I don't understand the outrage. Police should be trained to know that any person could be a potential threat to themselves or the public, right?

 

[dabuddha]

All I expect is accountability. I would be perfectly satisfied with them having to wear gopros that cannot be shut off or manipulated, which upload video via wireless.

I'm down with that with the caveat that the situation when reviewed afterwards would have to take into account the situation at hand and the amount of information available to the officer at the time. Too many retards here like to armchair quarterback LEO decisions because they're too god damned stupid to realize that what they know now was not necessarily available to the LEO at the time.

Regardless, you've clearly strayed far off topic since this was about LEO allegedly using targets which portrayed children pointing guns at them. Again, I reiterate, if you point a gun at an armed LEO, then don't be surprised when you get shot.

 

[Ausm]

Wouldn't this move both save paper and force Cops to have a better aim?

 

[RampantAndroid]

All I expect is accountability. I would be perfectly satisfied with them having to wear gopros that cannot be shut off or manipulated, which upload video via wireless.

Not sure this is enough. You make it 100% illegal for cops to be unionized. You attach a gopro to their chest, and turning off the camera or deleting content from it carriers prison time and a ban from ever working in a law enforcement position again. You make it so complaints against cops don't go through the cops themselves - you make the IA department a separate entity. You make the cops files open to the public (though not the videos as they will contain private info.) You randomly review videos from officers and proactively issue warnings/take pay/suspend/fire/prosecute them.

You remove laws saying cops cannot be prosecuted while working in the line of duty.

And above all, if a cop is ever deemed to have broken the regulations governing the officers and they are fired, that means they are banned from being a cop *ever* again, in *any* state and cannot even be a rent-a-cop.

This isn't hard to figure out - as it stands, cops can basically act with impunity. Another case that sticks in my mind is from Canton, OH: OH is a duty to notify state if you are carrying a firearm. During a traffic stop, a driver attempts numerous times to notify, and is told to shut up or be arrested. When he finally manages to shove his CPL in the officer's face, the officer says "I should shoot you right now you fucker, you don't deserve to live." The citizen was arrested and charged. Once the video was subpoenaed, charges were dropped. Officer had numerous complaints about brutality filed against him before...and still serves.

Another one where the cops were caught ON TAPE saying how they were going to write the report and how they'd lie:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...20327_1_tow-truck-criminal-charges-flat-tires

You really don't have to look very hard to find this stuff. I see at least one report of police misconduct a week without even looking.