Law enforcement target practice with images of young children.

[DCal430]

http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/19/is-your-local-police-department-using-pi

Here is one of the images:

The police are being trained to shoot without hesitation at young children who appear to holding a gun. They are being told to immediately shoot and kill any children they see who appears to be armed, do not hesitate. Just sick IMHO.

 

[boomerang]

The revolution will be televised.

 

[Jaskalas]

I know a blogger who was making some noise over this.

Law Enforcement Being Trained To Kill Mothers Protecting Their Children On The Playground

Least we know what the National Guard are going to be doing in Chicago.

 

[TheVrolok]

So a company is making these, and we have no information on whether or not they're selling any? Outrage not found.

 

[Lanyap]

"Law enforcement target practice with images of young children."

Your title is inaccurate. Did you even read the blog you linked to?

I've reached out to Minnesota-based Law Enforcement Targets, Inc., for comment on what inspired the series and whether it's popular with law enforcement groups (see comment added above). Considering that the company has landed $5.5 million worth of contracts with the federal government, it might also be interesting to know if these targets are being used by federal law enforcement agents.

 

[momeNt]

Why do police need to be lethally armed anyways? When doing busts or even patrols there are so many other tools at their disposal besides those capable of lethal use. With the proper training I doubt that their safety would ever be in jeopardy compared to a lethally equipped officer too.

 

[Ogrinz]

Lol so ignorant of the real world and dangers police face. You really cant think of a situation where non lethal force might not be sufficient?

 

[irishScott]

Why do police need to be lethally armed anyways? When doing busts or even patrols there are so many other tools at their disposal besides those capable of lethal use. With the proper training I doubt that their safety would ever be in jeopardy compared to a lethally equipped officer too.

You are very, very, very naive. There are areas of the inner cities I would feel comfortable walking through with body armor and an AR-15.

Edit: Oh wait, it's momeNT's trolling. Nevermind.

 

[DCal430]

The fact they have a contact with the federal government is proof that the federal government at the very least is using these targets.

 

[IGBT]

some of em should be choked to death in the crib.

 

[OverVolt]

I'm in the "eh so what" crowd.

They're holding guns.

 

[irishScott]

I'm in the "eh so what" crowd.

They're holding guns.

Yes, because psychotic kids and soccer moms pointing guns at police officers is such a common occurrence...

 

[MomentsofSanity]

The fact they have a contact with the federal government is proof that the federal government at the very least is using these targets.

Unless that is the only product they produce, no, it isn't. Not even a little bit.

And even if they are, so what? You don't think pregnant women or other non-stereotypical demographics are capable of being a threat? The point of such a "target" is to train officers that the firearm is the threat irrelevant of who is holding it.

Love how you lunatics take it to some ridiculous extreme of they are training to kill civilians. Guess what? Every target police face in training is a civilian. Perhaps you'd just be more comfortable if it were just black males thugged out?

 

[KB]

Unless that is the only product they produce, no, it isn't. Not even a little bit.

The fact that they produced these targets, means there is a strong likelihood of a target audience and demand for them. I have a hard time believing some sicko would create them for fun and put them on his website without a request for them.

This disgusts me and the "No More Hesitatation" name is further disgusting. If I saw someone shooting at these at the range I would tell them they are sick and give gun owners a bad name and then leave. Luckily there are many others including law enforcement who agree because they removed these targets from their website.

 

[halik]

http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/19/is-your-local-police-department-using-pi

Here is one of the images:

The police are being trained to shoot without hesitation at young children who appear to holding a gun. They are being told to immediately shoot and kill any children they see who appears to be armed, do not hesitate. Just sick IMHO.

Clearly cops should be trained to let kids with guns to kill them.

Libtarded emotional knee jerk is libtarded.

 

[halik]

Yes, because psychotic kids and soccer moms pointing guns at police officers is such a common occurrence...

No, because that is EXACTLY the point. It's atypical threat that they've likely never come across and hesitation to draw/use deadly force will put them at jeopardy.

Little kid at playground, upset at some other kids and pulls a gun on them and starts shooting (happened before, law and order has an episode also) - hesitation to shoot him on the cops part will get other kids killed.

 

[glenn1]

I doubt the company will sell many of these since it's in bad taste. Still, I don't see need for outrage since it's only a piece of paper with a picture on it. Given the inclination, someone could print their own "targets" with pictures of puppies, or child pr0n, or anything else you could imagine.

 

[Jaepheth]

First thing that came to my mind:

 

[Genx87]

"Dipicting" gets a 5.5 million dollar federal contract? Holy sweet mother of god.

 

[Theb]

If you point a gun at a police officer he's going to shoot you. If you want certain demographics to be allowed to point guns at police contact your elected representatives.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

If you point a gun at a police officer he's going to shoot you. If you want certain demographics to be allowed to point guns at police contact your elected representatives.

This crap is exactly why we have so many people getting shot when holding sticks, or whatever, and 'supposedly' pointing them at the officer before they're gunned down in cold blood.


For every one '6 year old on the playground shooting at officers' there are likely hundreds of people shot to death due to a over zealous cop.


I love how everyone justifies this kind of crap, yet the same people have problems with cops wearing gopros.

 

[nehalem256]

At least they are being politically correct and using white children for target practice

 

[Theb]

This crap is exactly why we have so many people getting shot when holding sticks, or whatever, and 'supposedly' pointing them at the officer before they're gunned down in cold blood.


For every one '6 year old on the playground shooting at officers' there are likely hundreds of people shot to death due to a over zealous cop.


I love how everyone justifies this kind of crap, yet the same people have problems with cops wearing gopros.

I am someone who isn't worried about "this kind of crap" (assuming you're talking about the targets) and I have no problems with police wearing cameras and having their cars tracked via GPS.

 

[WHAMPOM]

http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/19/is-your-local-police-department-using-pi

Here is one of the images:

The police are being trained to shoot without hesitation at young children who appear to holding a gun. They are being told to immediately shoot and kill any children they see who appears to be armed, do not hesitate. Just sick IMHO.

Anti-inhibition training, gotta get them before they fire their cell-phone/vidcam/retractable dog leash. Did I forget the water pistol/soft shooter/play toys?

 

[Yreka]

This disgusts me and the "No More Hesitatation" name is further disgusting. If I saw someone shooting at these at the range I would tell them they are sick and give gun owners a bad name and then leave. Luckily there are many others including law enforcement who agree because they removed these targets from their website.

Agreed completely.

I'm not convinced these targets are linked to the .gov contract an aren't simply the product of some sadist in company trying to capture a niche market (unless I missed something?)

(one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

This makes me sick to my stomach.

The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child,

At what cost? (not the cost of the targets smartass )