Launch price of GTX 980 Ti will be $649?

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RussianSensation

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waldoh

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$650 is nicer than $800, still expensive. This will most likely be my upgrade from a 780.

Unless AMD blows my mind with Fiji that destroys titan x performance with 4gb ram at $700 or under.
 

thilanliyan

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Unfortunately going AMD means lack of driver updates, higher temps and power and general lack of refinement. AMDs shoe string budget really shows.

I once went AMD back when Catalyst was new... never again. The worst driver experience I have ever had.

Just FYI, it ain't always peachy in the nV camp:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2432947

I myself have had more issues with nV drivers than AMD, but that might just be my use case...single cards with mostly old or older games. Having said that, I was running Witcher 3, a brand new game, on Cats 14.6 with no issues. It's sad that people will let one bad experience keep them away from one camp. I certainly wouldn't avoid nV due to the experiences I've had.
 

moonbogg

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Wow, so more or less 95% of $2000 Titan X SLI performance for $1300 in 980 Ti SLI just 2.5 months from the Titan X's launch. :p Titan X will officially go down in history as yet another marketing-driven e-peen waste of $ for gaming come June 2nd, just as predicted by many on this forum.

I think one either has to have a lot of money, or a lot of pride to pretend that this doesn't bother them. It would bother me no matter what. Then again, I will certainly buy two 980TI's at the reported $650 price point. Do I get to complain when they drop to $500 after the Fury release?
 

Muadib

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I think one either has to have a lot of money, or a lot of pride to pretend that this doesn't bother them. It would bother me no matter what. Then again, I will certainly buy two 980TI's at the reported $650 price point. Do I get to complain when they drop to $500 after the Fury release?
So why buy 2 right away?
 

swilli89

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Wow, so more or less 95% of $2000 Titan X SLI performance for $1300 in 980 Ti SLI just 2.5 months from the Titan X's launch. :p Titan X will officially go down in history as yet another marketing-driven e-peen waste of $ for gaming come June 2nd, just as predicted by many on this forum.

Yeah I think nVidia is too opportunistic in a way by pinching consumers just for 2 months when they artificially restrict their full lineup. No reason a 980 ti shouldn't have released sooner. Same exact silicon as Titan X.

HOWEVER, what alternative did buyers have 2.5 months ago if they had cash in hand and wanted the best single card performance? EVEN IF THEY KNEW they were getting screwed over they had no choice but to bite the bullet if they wanted the best in March.

You have to think that anyone with that much money either doesn't care at all about the above or is at least intelligent enough to know this was going to happen.

I will agree with you that this one in particular is worse than the Kepler release schedule. I went back and checked and this is how it went with Kepler:

Feb 2013 Titan released at $1000.
November 2013 780 TI released at $699.

So at least there people had 9 months of the best for their $1000 purchase. On the flip side 780 TI was actually faster than Titan original.

This time the same price delta exists but just 2.5 months afterwards. Haha actually typing this out it just kind of hit me how AWFUL this is. Your $1000 purchase just depreciated by 35% in 2 months IF you bought on day 1. Also keep in mind the original Titan had all that compute power that was absent on the geforce line which a lot of people used for CUDA applications.
 

jpiniero

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Kind of surprised nVidia is doing $649, especially since I'm sure AMD would play along wrt pricing. Reviewers better for sure check to see if it has the segmented memory.

Does anyone know how many titans have sold or close to? I really wonder how big that segment really is.

No idea. The only thing I've seen is that Titan X sold more than the original Titan did, and that's with the original Titan getting some sales from researchers.
 

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Yeah I think nVidia is too opportunistic in a way by pinching consumers just for 2 months when they artificially restrict their full lineup. No reason a 980 ti shouldn't have released sooner. Same exact silicon as Titan X.

HOWEVER, what alternative did buyers have 2.5 months ago if they had cash in hand and wanted the best single card performance? EVEN IF THEY KNEW they were getting screwed over they had no choice but to bite the bullet if they wanted the best in March.

You have to think that anyone with that much money either doesn't care at all about the above or is at least intelligent enough to know this was going to happen.

I will agree with you that this one in particular is worse than the Kepler release schedule. I went back and checked and this is how it went with Kepler:

Feb 2013 Titan released at $1000.
November 2013 780 TI released at $699.

So at least there people had 9 months of the best for their $1000 purchase. On the flip side 780 TI was actually faster than Titan original.

This time the same price delta exists but just 2.5 months afterwards. Haha actually typing this out it just kind of hit me how AWFUL this is. Your $1000 purchase just depreciated by 35% in 2 months IF you bought on day 1. Also keep in mind the original Titan had all that compute power that was absent on the geforce line which a lot of people used for CUDA applications.

It was worse last gen because the original Titan wasn't even a full chip. At least the TX is.

I don't think compute is as much of a factor on resale value as people think it is, GTX 690s still go for $300 on eBay. That's a 3 year old card. NV stuff seems to hold value better than AMD in general.
 

moonbogg

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So why buy 2 right away?

I've waited a pretty long time and recently increased my resolution. I just want to upgrade already. I don't want to wait around for what might be an insignificant price drop. Maybe it drops to $500 but honestly I doubt that. The big price drop is happening with 980TI. Its not getting much better than that for a while.
 

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You have to think that anyone with that much money either doesn't care at all about the above or is at least intelligent enough to know this was going to happen.

This. Folks that are the market for the Titan brand know exactly what they are getting. I'll be buying CF Fiji and Pascal will surpass those cards within a year or so. I've factored all of that into my hobby fund.
 
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mabe there is a reason they put 12gb of vram on titan vs the gtx980ti's 6gb?
If I had a 3 monitor high res. setup I'd want 2 titans rather than 2 gtx980ti's.
And if I have the money for a couple of high res. monitors, I don't think I'd care about the price of my video cards.
If I'm kicking around a overclocked 5960 with a 3 monitor 1620p setup, I have the money to choose what I want, when I want it. Price performance? that's for the poor people.
 

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Wow, so more or less 95% of $2000 Titan X SLI performance for $1300 in 980 Ti SLI just 2.5 months from the Titan X's launch. :p Titan X will officially go down in history as yet another marketing-driven e-peen waste of $ for gaming come June 2nd, just as predicted by many on this forum.

Yep, those who own Titan X SLI paid $700 more for 10% better performance. But this is like Kepler and GTX 780Ti and Titan X anyway. You pay to be the first to own flagships.

I think GTX 980 owners that paid $549 for the cards are more pissed than the Titan X owners when 980Ti launches. For $100 more you get 2GB more VRAM, 384bit vs 256bit and probably 30% better performance. Thats a lot.
GTX 980 price will drop though.
 

tential

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Wow, so more or less 95% of $2000 Titan X SLI performance for $1300 in 980 Ti SLI just 2.5 months from the Titan X's launch. :p Titan X will officially go down in history as yet another marketing-driven e-peen waste of $ for gaming come June 2nd, just as predicted by many on this forum.

If this hits at $650 then whatever AMD has.... it has to be good.... because this is a strong product lineup....
 

x3sphere

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Yep, those who own Titan X SLI paid $700 more for 10% better performance. But this is like Kepler and GTX 780Ti and Titan X anyway. You pay to be the first to own flagships.

I think GTX 980 owners that paid $549 for the cards are more pissed than the Titan X owners when 980Ti launches. For $100 more you get 2GB more VRAM, 384bit vs 256bit and probably 30% better performance. Thats a lot.
GTX 980 price will drop though.

980 owners are the ones that will really take the hit, indeed. I could see it dropping to as low as $400 which means it won't fetch more than $350 used. On the flipside, even though the Ti at $649 would make the TX irrelevant to many, I don't see it falling in value until the next NV flagship is out. People will pay a huge premium to get 12GB VRAM and bragging rights.
 

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Yep, those who own Titan X SLI paid $700 more for 10% better performance. But this is like Kepler and GTX 780Ti and Titan X anyway. You pay to be the first to own flagships.

I think GTX 980 owners that paid $549 for the cards are more pissed than the Titan X owners when 980Ti launches. For $100 more you get 2GB more VRAM, 384bit vs 256bit and probably 30% better performance. Thats a lot.
GTX 980 price will drop though.

What?

No one expects their card to never drop in value. The 980 has held almost all of its value for months and months and months.

I own a 980 and I say bring it on.
I love to see technology move forward.

Honestly, the 980 has had way longer of a run than I ever expected. I remember people saying how dumb it was to buy one because AMD or nvidia would obsolete it shortly. Well 9months later, that is a very good ride in my book.

I hope the 980 goes down in price. That would be just fine, more people could afford them
 
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980 had its reign for long enough, its no big deal if it gets a price drop, true.

Only Titan X owners will be shafted if 980Ti and custom models are around $699. Out of the box, equal performance, runs cooler, quieter. 6GB vram is plenty for 4K gaming so the only Titan X owners who actually benefit from 12GB vram are those on Q-SLI with 3x 4K monitors. For everyone else, ~3month later getting $1K performance for $699 with better designs to boot.

But then again, its not like we didn't see this coming. All those cut-down GM200 dies have to go somewhere if there's on Tesla market for Maxwell.
 

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I'm not surprised at the $650 (like I said earlier in the thread) because $800 just doesn't make sense from a market perspective. Those that wanted to spend close to $1k already did. There aren't many buyers where $1k is too much but $800 is perfect. Anything above $700 is another league. Nvidia already played in the $650 price range and it worked out great for them, so it is to be expected.

I'm probably a buyer a $650, but I'll need to see what coolers are offered before committing. I'm hoping for an AIO or something I can connect to my dedicated loop.
 

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It would be nice if the 980 dropped to $400-450. I would buy one for another machine. I still plan on getting a 980ti though, especially if they release it for $650. At $800 I don't think i'd be in too big of hurry to buy one. Don't want to pay that much.
 

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Were we expecting a gigantic 980 price drop?

Because $650 for a 980Ti means <30% price increase for a straight 30% performance boost. That's a great dream and all, but I don't think high end markets in the real world work that way...
 
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Were we expecting a gigantic 980 price drop?

Because $650 for a 980Ti means <30% price increase for a straight 30% performance boost. That's a great dream and all, but I don't think high end markets in the real world work that way...

Indeed it doesn't work that way. 980 will have to come down to $399 or $450 if 980Ti is ~$650-699 due to performance gap and extra vram.

970 will slot in well at its current price, $299 to $339.

We've had this before with the 670/680/770/780/Ti lineup.