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Land Rover Vs Motorbikes in NYC

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About the cops, undercover or not, they should step in and stop the assault, just like the other bystanders. They would NOT need to flash their IDs and declare themselves as cops, just behave as ordinary citizens.

I am sick of all the excuses from the bikers and the cops. Scumbags.
 
Ichinisan said:
I've never seen the Fast/Furious movies. I don't understand your statement.
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In the movies, Paul Walker's character was an undercover cop. He went in to bust the gang and the leader (Vin D's character) but he became one of them gang members later.

Do you get it now?

Vdubchaos said:
NYC starts off cops at 25-30k a year or so.
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Are you serious? Only $25-30K to start? At one of the most expensive to live in the US. Even down here, cops in Dallas make more.

Almost $43K to start as a trainee = http://www.dallascityhall.com/human_resources/pdfs/CompClass_PolicePaySchedule_AttachB.pdf
 
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Thought everyone knew that the Supreme Court confirmed that the police don't have a duty to protect the citizens?

Those under cover cops should have protected him because it was the right thing to do, not because they were cops....
 
The undercover cop’s lawyer said the officer didn’t intervene because he was following police protocol for undercover officers, plus there were safety concerns. The officer was trying to hide behind protocols to protect undercover operations even though he was off duty and not involved in any police operation. As shitty as it is that he stood by while the attack happened and let two unarmed civilians step in to protect the driver and his wife, that’s not what he is in trouble for.
He is under investigation for participating in the illegal bike rally and for his failure to report the incident. He withheld information about the attack for 4 days.
 
The cops probably didn't help them because they didn't want anyone to know they take part in illegal riding activities.

They should be fired for that, whether they helped or not.
 
spidey07 said:
The paralyzed guy wasn't a victim. He was an assailant committing a crime.
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That's exactly why I said "if."

If he was stopped as a witness, then there was nothing wrong with him being there and he is a victim of everyone else's bad behavior. If he was deliberately there to box the SUV in, then he was part of the assault and deserved what he got.

GinormousNG said:
The guy who got ran over shouldn't have parked his bike directly in front of the Range Rover. He either did that to purposely trap him in or he's an idiot but i'm assuming that instructors actually teach something as simple as that when getting your bike license, which the guy who got ran over did not have.
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Look: we agree 100%. I simply refuse to discount the possibility that he was just watching as a witness. Just like all the people who say this was on purpose:
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I refuse to make that assumption. The driver could just as easily have noticed the bike too late to stop or finish turning in and tried to get back in the moving traffic lane instead.
 
CZroe said:
Look: we agree 100%. I simply refuse to discount the possibility that he was just watching as a witness. Just like all the people who say this was on purpose:
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I refuse to make that assumption. The driver could just as easily have noticed the bike too late to stop or finish turning in and tried to get back in the moving traffic lane instead.
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"All the people"? Isn't that count, like, one? You posted in the Hume thread in reply to ONE person who thought that was on purpose, seven minutes before this reply.

I could certainly entertain the possibility of that being accidental. Not with the Range Rover though. It's pretty clear what he was doing.
 
rise said:
"All the people"? Isn't that count, like, one? You posted in the Hume thread in reply to ONE person who thought that was on purpose, seven minutes before this reply.

I could certainly entertain the possibility of that being accidental. Not with the Range Rover though. It's pretty clear what he was doing.
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Maybe. But I know that the "one" person said that it "looks" that way. As in, "it appears" to be like that on the surface, but the connotation of the word "looks" is that it could also be anything else. Big difference between "it was on purpose", "it was definitely on purpose", and "looks like it was on purpose".

Having said that.. omfg, people speculating on the internet on stupid 10 frame GIFs!!!!
 
On CBS News tonight, the lawyer for that moron (the one with two middle fingers - see picture above) said the biker smashed the window of the SUV because he just wanted to identify the SUV driver. I did laugh when I saw/hear that, what planet these guys come from. Ever hear of license plate? Ooops, a lot of them bikers did not have licence plates.

The report also stated that the undercover cop and other cops that were there could be criminally charge soon.
 
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Just thought of an "out" for the paralyzed guy.. He was responsibly pulling over in the stopped lane for traffic to proceed through in other lanes in order to help his "friend"?

Just throwing it out there.
 
New York (CNN) -- A 29-year-old motorcyclist has been charged with gang assault and other charges in connection with the beating of an SUV driver in a high-profile case caught on video last week, New York police said Monday.
Craig Wright "hit (driver Alexian) Lien numerous times with his fists, feet, and helmet after forcibly removing Lien from his SUV," a police spokesman said.
He is the latest person to be charged in the case that involved a group of motorcyclists on Manhattan's West Side Highway and Lien, who was driving a Range Rover along with his wife and small child.
Wright, who was arrested at his home in Brooklyn, also was charged with assault and unlawful imprisonment and was to be arraigned Monday night.
He is also seen on a video punching through the window of the SUV, the spokesman said. The video was taken with an iPad by someone who was at the scene of the attack. Police didn't say whether the person who shot the video was a biker or a bystander.
Police said Wright's license tag was visible in the video -- which hasn't been released to the media -- and his uncle identified him for authorities.
In March, Wright pleaded guilty to driving with a suspended license, police said. It is unclear whether he was driving with a suspended license at the time of the SUV incident.
He was also convicted in Virginia in 2005 for reckless driving.
One of the other bikers has been charged with the felonies of first-degree assault and gang assault.
The lawyer for Reginald Chance, who was captured on video smashing his shiny helmet into an SUV window, concedes his client "overreacted," but claims his client did not take part in beating the driver.
One video, taken from a rider's helmet camera, shows bikers -- apparently angered when Lien's SUV collided with a biker who slowed abruptly -- pursuing the vehicle until they could surround it and beat on the windows. Other photos show Lien beaten bloody and lying on the pavement.
New York police: Bikers stomped on SUV driver
Defense lawyer Gregory Watts said it's "a given" that Chance hit the SUV's window with his helmet. But he said Chance then walked away.
He claimed Chance was knocked off his motorcycle by Lien's SUV after bikers had surrounded the vehicle earlier.
"The law does permit someone who is a victim of an accident to at least attempt to get the identification of the motorist," Watts said. "My client obviously overreacted in that manner, but he is not this thug assaulting someone who's harmless, contrary to the public opinion that's being put out there."
Police said Chance's license was suspended in June for six months.
Defenders of the bikers, including the relatives of one biker who was critically injured, have criticized Lien for driving through the crowd of motorcycles.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/07/us/bikers-attack-video/index.html
 
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