Lack of power simulating graphics drivers destabilizing CPU oc ?

[onelivinlarge]

Ok I've spent about 2 weeks trying to get a working amd driver. It's starting to make me really frustrated to the point of just wanting to throw the card out. I never had any of these issues with nvidia products I've used. If I cannot figure this out i probably will never own another amd product. I can go one day it work to I get updated and nothing works not even games that worked the night before. I'm pretty ticked I just wanted to play a little on my bf3 campaign but no drivers crash the game so spend an hour uninstalling and re installing drivers and still nothing


If your a long running amd owner and would care to point me in a different direction here is my specs

2500k
Z68
Devil 13 7990

problem solved, lack of power causing drivers to simulate destablezed cpu overclock by random crashes both driver and random system crashes

 

[Stuka87]

Do you honestly think AMD would be in business if nobody could get their cards to work?

First off, I would stop insulting people *before* asking them for help. Typically a bad idea.

Second, you have not even stated WHAT your issue is. A description of the issue is required in order to troubleshoot.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Run driver sweeper and remove all the drivers from AMD & Nvidia.

After rebooting install the latest beta driver & CAPS from AMD's website.

And FYI my family has never had an AMD card burn out & brick on us from the drivers, Nvidia has.

 

[ICDP]

Nice way to ask for help. I know you are angry but the fanboy name calling is not needed.

I have recently purchased HD 7950 Crossfire and while they have problems I am able to work around any stutter and driver issues easily. Having said that Nvidia SLI does work better out of the box.

Honestly if you are having such serious crashing issues then it points to a system wide problem. If you switched from Nvidia to this card I would suggest runing driver sweeper to ensure all GPU drivers from both Nvidia or AMD are removed from the system. Then try again with the latest 13.3 Beta 3 drivers from AMD (do NOT install the current CAPS).

When going from AMD to Nvidia cards (and vice versa) I have almost always ensured all srivers were removed from both AMD and Nivida using driversweeper (or equivelent).

 

[Will Robinson]

At 4.6GHz that's a pretty decent overclock you are running.
After running Driver Sweeper and perhaps CCleaner's registry cleaner,restart with a more modest overclock and install the latest Catalyst package.

 

[onelivinlarge]

I've run driver sweeper twice even did a fresh win 7 install. Issue is every time I try and load any game the driver crashes and crashes the game or crossfire crashes crashing the game. I apologize for the fanboy commet I'm just extremely frustrated.

 

[ICDP]

If you have run driver sweeper and even tried a fresh install then it is most probably a GPU problem.

Have you run GPU-Z to check what core temps and VRM temps the card is getting? I'm not sure how the 7990 works but on my CF system I need to run one instance of GPU-Z for each GPU. Check the temps and if it is overheating then that could be the problem. Exchange the card or RMA it.

Good luck, I know how frustrating it can be.

 

[Stuka87]

With a fresh install of windows, we can limit any issues from old drivers or the like.

As Will stated, I would also try with a lower clock on your CPU, to limit it out as a factor. Before you were very GPU bound, so the CPU did not get as stressed. Going to a 7990 you are now closer to being CPU limited. So it will be working much harder.

The next thing I would try is playing with Crossfire off. Play as though it was a single 7970.

It may turn out that you may very well have a card with a hardware issue on it. What you are experiencing is certainly not the norm.

 

[wand3r3r]

Check windows event viewer for errors and warnings (check WHEA, but others too). Firstly drop your OC to stock. If you have an semi stable/unstable OC it's going to crash when you get a load on it.

Are the cards themselves OCed? Drop that if so, otherwise add the +20% power thing.

I feel the sentiment (however this is worse), when I tried BL2 with the GTX 690 and got drops to single digits because it can't handle the heavy physx loads, it was pretty frustrating. $1k cards should provide a good experience. (Well any card for that matter)

 

[railven]

Do you honestly think AMD would be in business if nobody could get their cards to work?

First off, I would stop insulting people *before* asking them for help. Typically a bad idea.

Second, you have not even stated WHAT your issue is. A description of the issue is required in order to troubleshoot.

A user with an avatar spoof of "u mad bro" makes me wonder if the trollage is strong in them. Haha.

 

[BrentJ]

Make sure the red button on the Devil 13 is in the "out" position, so the GPUs run at 925MHz each, else in "turbo" mode, with the button "in" it could cause some instability. I experienced a bit of trouble in "turbo" mode. PowerTune is wonky in turbo mode. This could be causing your crashing. So just run the card in normal mode.

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/20/powercolor_devil13_hd7990_video_card_review/1#.UUnZRxzvs1I

Install Cat 13.3 Beta 3 (do not install any CAPs, 13.3 Beta includes its own CAPs) and you should be good to go.

 

[Rikard]

1. Uninstall all GPU drivers
2. Reinstall the latest stable driver
3. Use winconfig to prevent any start up programs to run
4. Reboot
5. Don't be a twat

 

[jaqie]

it sounds to me like there is a hardware fault in your box... everyone here has already said about the right things...

but I have had two hd6850 (and many older ones) and have never had major driver issues except with an ATi 9800 PRO which was a bad card.

With ATi/AMD video cards I have learned that the general rule of thumb is if the driver does vpu recovery something hardware is broken.

 

[Fx1]

take off you CPU overclock and try again.

Also reading your post is hard since it makes little sense

 

[BrightCandle]

Return your machine to stock when troubleshooting or you will never know what is the cause. Also having over clocked previously its possible something important has been corrupted. And cards don't normally just crash on loading any game so you need to work out if its the component at fault. Run some memory tests, CPU stability like kind and prime 95 and also try graphics benchmarks like 3d mark. Basically anything that focusses mostly on stressing each component one at a time to try and isolate it. If after all these things the problem remains then RMA the card.

Seems to be a lot of bad cards out there for some reason, quality control at the partners clearly isn't what it should be. But this isn't a normal problem on AMD cards, they have other issues but crashing in everything isn't one of them.

 

[DominionSeraph]

To answer your question: yes.

 

[Bricked]

I would also do a really thorough check for malware. It could be anything, but malware is certainly a possibility.

 

[24601]

Sell SLI/Crossfire (especially crossfire)

Purchase Titan.

/fixed

 

[skipsneeky2]

Had a 7970 last year before the sleep bug and performance drivers came out,if this popped up last year as a question,i would have said hell to the no but now i would say its def not those drivers as my 7850 has been flawless.

Think i had more fun then the Op concerning amd drivers when my birthday came up 2 years ago and i got a 6990 and nothing would unleash it,the card was performing nearly the same as the gtx460 that was in there before....between the noise and finally the blue screen the most recent drivers gave me that gave me a non bootable partition i was up the next morning at 6am ready to drive to frys to return it LOL.

 

[onelivinlarge]

well i checked everything cpu overclock is rock solid its been here for about a year and folded for 3 weeks straight at one point. i checked memory no errors there. i reinstalled all drivers removed the cap thing or what ever that is. I still havnt figured out why campaign isnt working but i did narrow down y about 50% of the bf3 online maps didnt work EA screwed up my profile and some how revoked my access to the expansions i had already bought so i called tech and got that straightened out so those are downloading and hopefully that will fix that issue. why crysis 1 doesnt work i still have no clue.

temps never above 70c on the gpu on either core and thats after running valley on hardcore hd for an hour.
no gpu oc theres no point it maxxes out everything ive tryed ( needs more monitors. )

so we will know soon enough as to what is wrong with this if it comes down to an rma or trade out i will get a traditional sli or cf set up and not on one card. but it appears not to be an hardware issue just softwares

 

[Rikard]

well i checked everything cpu overclock is rock solid its been here for about a year and folded for 3 weeks straight at one point. i checked memory no errors there. i reinstalled all drivers removed the cap thing or what ever that is. I still havnt figured out why campaign isnt working but i did narrow down y about 50% of the bf3 online maps didnt work EA screwed up my profile and some how revoked my access to the expansions i had already bought so i called tech and got that straightened out so those are downloading and hopefully that will fix that issue. why crysis 1 doesnt work i still have no clue.

temps never above 70c on the gpu on either core and thats after running valley on hardcore hd for an hour.
no gpu oc theres no point it maxxes out everything ive tryed ( needs more monitors. )

so we will know soon enough as to what is wrong with this if it comes down to an rma or trade out i will get a traditional sli or cf set up and not on one card. but it appears not to be an hardware issue just softwares

Did you do this yet (now with more detailed instructions)?
1) Click Start
2) Click Run
3) Type MSCONFIG
4) Click OK

This will load the System Configuration Utility.

On the General tab, click Selective Startup, and then click to clear the
following check box:

* Load Startup Items

5) Click Apply.
6) Click Close. Then Reboot your PC

 

[lavaheadache]

Trying to make sense of what you wrote is kind of difficult. First off, I see you are trying to run 800watts of hardware, What psu do you have?

 

[onelivinlarge]

Trying to make sense of what you wrote is kind of difficult. First off, I see you are trying to run 800watts of hardware, What psu do you have?

corsair tx 850

 

[onelivinlarge]

that is what i get when i try and load campaign on bf3 i can run multiplayer tho

 

[ElFenix]

that is what i get when i try and load campaign on bf3 i can run multiplayer tho

try completely reloading bf3. if it were really the graphics driver itself i'd think multiplayer would cause it to crash just as much as single.