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Lack of new AM3 CPUs on sale?

mikeymikec

mikeymikec

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Is anyone else noticing a lack of choice of new AM3 CPUs with their usual suppliers?

For example, on one of mine, I can choose from:

1x Sempron
1x Athlon II X2
1x Athlon II X3
0x Athlon II X4
1x Phenom II X2
1x Phenom II X4 960T
2x Phenom II X6

Could AMD really be winding down production of AM3s already?

I'm trying to find some AM3 CPUs that are officially compatible with an older board.
 
I thought from what I read, they quit production of the Phenom II and switched quickly to the Bulldozers and the APUs. Somewhere I read it was to happen at the end of the 4th quater of 2011. We are probably seeing the result.
 
Thanks for the information. Not sure I agree with AMD's logic of stopping a reasonable processor generation in favour of a questionably worse one.
 
Sadly, the answer is yes. The X6 is still the best bang/buck CPU out there and obviously AMD wants it out of town so people are forced to grab FX chips. IT HAZ MOAR COREEEZZZ!

BAD NEWS AMD, people are gonna buy Intel instead.
 
RavenSEAL said:
Sadly, the answer is yes. The X6 is still the best bang/buck CPU out there and obviously AMD wants it out of town so people are forced to grab FX chips. IT HAZ MOAR COREEEZZZ!

BAD NEWS AMD, people are gonna buy Intel instead.
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Doubt it. The big market is laptops anyway, and i'd much rather have an APU than a SNB if I plan to do anything remotely related to graphics.
 
mikeymikec said:
Thanks for the information. Not sure I agree with AMD's logic of stopping a reasonable processor generation in favour of a questionably worse one.
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This statement in the link sums up AMD's conundrum:
AMD's plants in Dresden share many tools to make 45nm and 32nm products, which means production on line makes the other suffer.
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Obviously they mean to write GloFo instead of AMD, but the problem is the same. AMD can't have its cake and eat it too, not without GloFo spending a bunch of money expanding capacity for 45nm or 32nm.

So they swap 45nm capacity for 32nm capacity.

Why would AMD do this? The rational conclusion is that despite the performance disparity, the 32nm SKU's fetch more profits than the 45nm ones.

Pure business decision. Hopefully more of these decisions are to come, a stronger business means a more secure future for that business. We all benefit from an AMD that is strong enough to exist in 2020.
 
Intel17 said:
Doubt it. The big market is laptops anyway, and i'd much rather have an APU than a SNB if I plan to do anything remotely related to graphics.
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I'd rather have a SB with a real mobile gpu like the 6990m/580m or even lesser chips which are faster than what the APU has.

Let's face it, you can get a better gpu with SB, you're stuck with the worst possible choice when it comes to CPU though with AMD.
 
RavenSEAL said:
When you start talking about that kind of power on a laptop, it's a different story. Not many people are in the market for an $1800 gaming laptop compared to a $500 machine.
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There are other lower end gpu options, even a 6770M would be faster than what the AMD apu has.

Not trying to take anything away from the AMD chip, it's nice but if I was considering gaming on a laptop I wouldn't be looking at such a low end system. Laptops are overpriced for their performance in the first place, trying to beat that with a budget build just leaves you with an underwhelming system.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
There are other lower end gpu options, even a 6770M would be faster than what the AMD apu has.

Not trying to take anything away from the AMD chip, it's nice but if I was considering gaming on a laptop I wouldn't be looking at such a low end system. Laptops are overpriced for their performance in the first place, trying to beat that with a budget build just leaves you with an underwhelming system.
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You're forgetting AMD APUs are not all about capability, but also power efficiency.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
Yeah it's just not my cup of tea, it's too slow for me personally to use it.
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You're totally looking at it the wrong way. When it comes to mobile performance, its amazing really. Note that most are paired with lower resolution screens, so its powerful enough to play almost every game out there just fine at most settings.
 
Scholzpdx said:
You're totally looking at it the wrong way. When it comes to mobile performance, its amazing really. Note that most are paired with lower resolution screens, so its powerful enough to play almost every game out there just fine at most settings.
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+1

APU beats SB in laptop gaming

(HD3000 sucks)
 
Same applies here as it does in desktops, increase gpu performance, watch AMD falter.

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Unless your criteria is low end graphics, low resolution, low power, long unplugged play time than it's not really all that great. However if those things are what you seek, it's a great chip!
 
Let me explain. This is what happens when your old stuff is better than your new stuff and selling for almost half the price. AMD easily could have planed ahead for this tool sharing and shrunk the old phenoms but they didn't because they knew it would make bulldozer irrelevant in its current form. Side by side there would literally be no place for BD, not even in the server market, so their only option is to force it on people if they are to make any return on their investment.

They cornered themselves out of their own market.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
Same applies here as it does in desktops, increase gpu performance, watch AMD falter.

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Unless your criteria is low end graphics, low resolution, low power, long unplugged play time than it's not really all that great. However if those things are what you seek, it's a great chip!
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The hybrid crossfire only works when you are running DX10 or DX11 titles.
 
Meaker10 said:
The hybrid crossfire only works when you are running DX10 or DX11 titles.
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At 900 or 768, how many DX9 titles wouldn't be playable on Llano or Trinity? Even Starcraft 2 will play fine, it just means you don't play at Ultra settings with AA. Being able to game on a system (especially a laptop) doesn't mean needing to have all the eye candy turned on or it's worthless. I think the APUs are great in the mobile space, they might not be what you'd see in a gamer laptop, but they help to raise the minimum bar.
 
BallaTheFeared said:
Same applies here as it does in desktops, increase gpu performance, watch AMD falter.

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Unless your criteria is low end graphics, low resolution, low power, long unplugged play time than it's not really all that great. However if those things are what you seek, it's a great chip!
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Playing SCII set to "Ultra" on a llano = doing it wrong.
 
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