LA Water Conservation

piasabird

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There are some interesting water conservation experiments and studies going on in and around LA, the concrete wasteland. Take a look at this article. It is very interesting. It is strange that you don't hear about this on the

news.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/opinion/sunday/los-angeles-city-of-water.html?_r=1

“Governance is probably the biggest obstacle to a sustainable water supply,” Mark Pestrella, who heads flood control for the Los Angeles County Public Works Department, told me.

The project tries to look at LA more as a watershed than a desert or a flood plain. If California could reduce the amount of water they import they could achieve significant savings every year.
 

Moonbeam

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1. Good news doesn't attract the attention of the liberal and conservative brain defects irrational fear and irrational reactions to irrational fear.

2 The Koch brothers are into oil, not water.

3. The unintended consequences created by government solutions to flood problems not that they are widely recognize by rational minds for what they are, are in turn now being addressed by, you got it, government. The fragmentation of society along turf lines is a consequence of our religion of competition and are not obligatory just because government exists. Of the people, by the people, and all that.....

3. The notion that politics can't have moral foundations, even lofty public good goals in mind, is a myth generated by the projection of people of selfish character. Many of them, however, do gravitate toward power under the theory that in a world of users it's better to use than be used.

4. The modification of traditional methodologies is possible only in a culture that doesn't reject science categorically, as an effort by PhD's to extort research grants for themselves. The experiment was done before people who believe their own eyes.

5. When conservatives piss in a toilet, they don't like to think it will benefit somebody over in the ghetto trying to wash the shit off his pant's waist band.
 

theeedude

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Can everyone already acknowledge that California is the best state in the country by far?
What's the hold up?
 

cabri

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Can everyone already acknowledge that California is the best state in the country by far?
What's the hold up?

Why should it be considered as such?

High Pollution
Over congestion
Corrupt/hypocritical politicians
Ultra high cost of living
Stuck up liberals
High utility bills
Over regulation


I am sure that some other states have some of these issues also, but to such an extent.
 

theeedude

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Why should it be considered as such?

High Pollution
Over congestion
Corrupt/hypocritical politicians
Ultra high cost of living
Stuck up liberals
High utility bills
Over regulation


I am sure that some other states have some of these issues also, but to such an extent.

Ultra high cost of living is the free market putting a dollar value for living in California.
 

Zaap

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Ultra high cost of living is the free market putting a dollar value for living in California.

No, it's stemming the tide of more nutbags like you.

Liberals have done to California exactly what plagues of liberals do to any place- turned it into a hyper-expensive shithole.
 

cabri

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Ultra high cost of living is the free market putting a dollar value for living in California.

When the cost of a house costs double and for less land; the free market has been skewed.

Even within CA itself; the value of the urban area does not match up to the excessive costs.
 

theeedude

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When the cost of a house costs double and for less land; the free market has been skewed.

Even within CA itself; the value of the urban area does not match up to the excessive costs.

You mean supply and demand are not equal at those prices? That's what free market is. You making some claims about value this value that is just hot air.
 

Moonbeam

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No, it's stemming the tide of more nutbags like you.

Liberals have done to California exactly what plagues of liberals do to any place- turned it into a hyper-expensive shithole.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder which means that for you there's a shithole in your eye. Maybe you can take off the turd colored glasses. You're probably posting your garbage on Starbuck's free WIFI pounding on your Ipad and making waves in your latte.
 

fskimospy

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No, it's stemming the tide of more nutbags like you.

Liberals have done to California exactly what plagues of liberals do to any place- turned it into a hyper-expensive shithole.

How do you feel about the fact that nearly all of the most economically productive and valuable areas in America are heavily liberal?

Maybe jealousy is what makes you so enraged.
 

DCal430

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There are some interesting water conservation experiments and studies going on in and around LA, the concrete wasteland. Take a look at this article. It is very interesting. It is strange that you don't hear about this on the

news.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/opinion/sunday/los-angeles-city-of-water.html?_r=1

“Governance is probably the biggest obstacle to a sustainable water supply,” Mark Pestrella, who heads flood control for the Los Angeles County Public Works Department, told me.

The project tries to look at LA more as a watershed than a desert or a flood plain. If California could reduce the amount of water they import they could achieve significant savings every year.

Huh what are you talking about, California imports very little to no water from out of state. Southern California imports water from WITHIN the state, not outside. That isn't California importing water, it is California moving water from one part of the state to another.
 

theeedude

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No, it's stemming the tide of more nutbags like you.

Liberals have done to California exactly what plagues of liberals do to any place- turned it into a hyper-expensive shithole.

Nutbags? In Silicon Valley, these are engineers who can do the math better than you.
 

Zaap

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How do you feel about the fact that nearly all of the most economically productive and valuable areas in America are heavily liberal?

Maybe jealousy is what makes you so enraged.
So 1%'rs are all liberals this minute?

LOL. Make up your mind.
 

fskimospy

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So 1%'rs are all liberals this minute?

LOL. Make up your mind.

Productivity doesn't equal 1%ers.

That weird feeling you're having right now is your brain trying to rationalize how you think liberal policies are the worst but that all the most productive areas are liberal.
 

Zaap

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Productivity doesn't equal 1%ers.

That weird feeling you're having right now is your brain trying to rationalize how you think liberal policies are the worst but that all the most productive areas are liberal.

It's only in your imagination that "all the most productive areas are liberal."

Meanwhile, all the worst slums, inner cities and bankrupt shitholes like and Detroit are certainly "liberal".
 

fskimospy

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It's only in your imagination that "all the most productive areas are liberal."

Meanwhile, all the worst slums, inner cities and bankrupt shitholes like and Detroit are certainly "liberal".

Nope. Go look at percentage of GDP in our most liberal areas.

I guess facts have a liberal bias, huh. Better get even angrier.
 

Zaap

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Nope. Go look at percentage of GDP in our most liberal areas.
What "most liberal areas?" Once again, the "most liberal" areas are inner city shitholes. Liberal policies on allowing the third world to flood into the country (and certainly in California) are only creating more and more of those, out of what used to be decent neighborhoods.

You simply base a lot of your horseshit (as usual) on ignoring the shit that you liberals have created while taking all credit for wealthy suburban areas. (Or whatever spin you're attempting to assign to "most productive"). Of course, in the next thread you'll be whining about and demonizing anyone who lives in a wealthy suburban area, but in this one, suddenly they're your darlings.
 

cabri

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Huh what are you talking about, California imports very little to no water from out of state. Southern California imports water from WITHIN the state, not outside. That isn't California importing water, it is California moving water from one part of the state to another.

Please explain the Colorado river?
 

fskimospy

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What "most liberal areas?" Once again, the "most liberal" areas are inner city shitholes. Liberal policies on allowing the third world to flood into the country (and certainly in California) are only creating more and more of those, out of what used to be decent neighborhoods.

You simply base a lot of your horseshit (as usual) on ignoring the shit that you liberals have created while taking all credit for wealthy suburban areas. (Or whatever spin you're attempting to assign to "most productive"). Of course, in the next thread you'll be whining about and demonizing anyone who lives in a wealthy suburban area, but in this one, suddenly they're your darlings.

You realize that cities generate the majority of US GDP by far, right?

This is yet another one of those things where you rage and flail about things you don't understand because it's a culture war for you. Cities drive the US economy. Cities are overwhelmingly liberal.

These are simple facts you need to accept.
 

cabri

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You realize that cities generate the majority of US GDP by far, right?

This is yet another one of those things where you rage and flail about things you don't understand because it's a culture war for you. Cities drive the US economy. Cities are overwhelmingly liberal.

These are simple facts you need to accept.

Small cities yes.

Large cities are leaches.

$$ from businesses are available to government for "bribes" and handouts.
 

Zaap

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You realize that cities generate the majority of US GDP by far, right?
You realize that cities are made up of different economic levels, right?

Newsflash: Newport Beach (more conservative) is a desirable place to live, Watts (more liberal) isn't.

Take a look at this, and keep in mind, this is in a "liberal" state, California.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...6094&spn=12.777766,17.578125&z=5&source=embed

In Southern California, the places with red arrows (more conservative) are mostly places you couldn't afford to live in. The places you'd probably get shot walking around in at night have the blue arrows. (more liberal).

Now of course like I said, in the very next thread you'll be spinning that rich areas are full of greedy, evil people who won't give their fair share to your government masters, but it's funny how in this thread you're living vicariously through them as making the country work.
 

fskimospy

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You realize that cities are made up of different economic levels, right?

Newsflash: Newport Beach (more conservative) is a desirable place to live, Watts (more liberal) isn't.

Take a look at this, and keep in mind, this is in a "liberal" state, California.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...6094&spn=12.777766,17.578125&z=5&source=embed

In Southern California, the places with red arrows (more conservative) are mostly places you couldn't afford to live in. The places you'd probably get shot walking around in at night have the blue arrows. (more liberal).

Now of course like I said, in the very next thread you'll be spinning that rich areas are full of greedy, evil people who won't give their fair share to your government masters, but it's funny how in this thread you're living vicariously through them as making the country work.

Hahaha. Like I figured. Flailing.

It's both funny and bizarre that you are at one hand trying to point to expensive places in California that you think are conservative and declare them to be good, but ignore the even more valuable places that are liberal.

We all know it. You're desperately trying to find a way to validate what you believe. It's stupid, but it's yours. Just own your stupidity.